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Old 01-19-2010, 03:06 PM   #1
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Hi, I've been thinking of "taking this show on the road" and had some questions about touring and volume. Right now I am very low volume. I NEVER see more than one client in a day, hardly ever see more than one in a week. But, one date a week won't pay for any more than an over night in a different city. With the added cost of hotels, air, and other away from home expenses. I might could handle one a day (if I got the business), possibly 2 in a day (one lunch and one dinner date) but that is waaaayyy more than I'm used to.

So do the ladies that tour increase their volume on the road? Like someone that normally sees 1 to 2 a week would then see maybe 3 - 4 in a week or 2-3 in a 4 day trip?

Or am I totally off target?
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:18 PM   #2
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Hi, I've been thinking of "taking this show on the road" and had some questions about touring and volume. Right now I am very low volume. I NEVER see more than one client in a day, hardly ever see more than one in a week. But, one date a week won't pay for any more than an over night in a different city. With the added cost of hotels, air, and other away from home expenses. I might could handle one a day (if I got the business), possibly 2 in a day (one lunch and one dinner date) but that is waaaayyy more than I'm used to.

So do the ladies that tour increase their volume on the road? Like someone that normally sees 1 to 2 a week would then see maybe 3 - 4 in a week or 2-3 in a 4 day trip?

Or am I totally off target?
Yes, I meet with more people when touring then being at home.

I normally see maybe 4 people a month. Sometimes more, sometimes less, but I can't even say I see a certain amount of people ever week, I can easily go multiple weeks without plans to have a date.

When I'm touring, I'm likely to see 3 in a week. The chances I'll see two people same day are pretty small. If I have a dinner date booked there's not a chance I'll book anything else that day.

Here's where I have a dilema. I have one short date booked that day, which is fine by me, I can go check out the city with my free day. Someone else writes wanting to see me that same day, and as hard as I try we can't seem to find another day where it will work for both of us.

What's the right thing to do? Do I tell him that I have another date that day and let him make the choice? Usually if it's someone I've seen multiple times, I'll bring up the possibility before the situation occurs, so I know where they stand on the issue. What happens if it's a new person, would they rather I took the date and said nothing?

I mean, they expect to be the only one I see and I have no desire to be dishonest or misleading. Do they want to know the truth of why I'm trying to reschedule for another day, or is ignorance bliss?
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Another question ladies.... You increase your volume, do you make them prebook the date and make a deposit?
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I've never toured, so I'd love to hear the thoughts/feedback/suggestions of others in case the opportunity ever presents itself.
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What's the right thing to do? Do I tell him that I have another date that day and let him make the choice? Usually if it's someone I've seen multiple times, I'll bring up the possibility before the situation occurs, so I know where they stand on the issue. What happens if it's a new person, would they rather I took the date and said nothing?

I mean, they expect to be the only one I see and I have no desire to be dishonest or misleading. Do they want to know the truth of why I'm trying to reschedule for another day, or is ignorance bliss?
Good question....I do not believe that a potential client is entitled to a window of exclusivity beyond what he has rented unless he wants to pay for it.
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Another question ladies.... You increase your volume, do you make them prebook the date and make a deposit?

If someone isn't going to cover my flight costs and they want me to come into town to see them for a dinner date, I expect a deposit, and stay an extra time to see if I can meet any new people. I'm there anyway, I might as well stay a while. Should other prebookings come in, then I'm not going to ask for a deposit, I'll hope they follow through on their word.

If they claim they want to fly me into town, I ask for enough deposit to cover flights and hotel costs in case I'm stood up.
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I agree with WTF in that I have no right to know how you spent your day. Having said that, I think I would avoid ladies who travel to my city because I think I would expect them to see as many men as possible to maximize their return and that is a turnoff to me. But, that probably pertains more to the ladies who charge a rather pedestrian fee for their time as opposed to a lady has a higher rate.

As I have mentioned in some other posts, I'm new with this, and so far, it hasn't been so good. So what do I know? LOL.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:42 PM   #8
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Hi, I've been thinking of "taking this show on the road" and had some questions about touring and volume. Right now I am very low volume. I NEVER see more than one client in a day, hardly ever see more than one in a week. But, one date a week won't pay for any more than an over night in a different city. With the added cost of hotels, air, and other away from home expenses. I might could handle one a day (if I got the business), possibly 2 in a day (one lunch and one dinner date) but that is waaaayyy more than I'm used to.

So do the ladies that tour increase their volume on the road? Like someone that normally sees 1 to 2 a week would then see maybe 3 - 4 in a week or 2-3 in a 4 day trip?

Or am I totally off target?
I'd take all the numbers you see regarding volume with a grain of salt as obviously it is good for marketing to appear low volume

There is an easy, low risk, even profitable way to "market test" how conducive you are to the stresses of being higher volume & that is try it in your home market. Try seeing clients on back to back days. Maybe even two in a day....who knows...whatever you think you might do on tour.

If you try it & can't/don't want to do it...the idea of touring becomes a non-starter. If you can/want to is becomes a financial analysis: how many/how long do you need to see clients to cover your touring costs (building in contingencies like cancellations) and deliver an acceptable return to you. If if makes sense give it a try....
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I agree with WTF in that I have no right to know how you spent your day. Having said that, I think I would avoid ladies who travel to my city because I think I would expect them to see as many men as possible to maximize their return and that is a turnoff to me. But, that probably pertains more to the ladies who charge a rather pedestrian fee for their time as opposed to a lady has a higher rate.

As I have mentioned in some other posts, I'm new with this, and so far, it hasn't been so good. So what do I know? LOL.
I can only speak for myself, but I think that's true. One short date for me is enough that I don't need to concern myself with a second, it's not big deal if nothing else comes in.


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I'd take all the numbers you see regarding volume with a grain of salt as obviously it is good for marketing to appear low volume

There is an easy, low risk, even profitable way to "market test" how conducive you are to the stresses of being higher volume & that is try it in your home market. Try seeing clients on back to back days. Maybe even two in a day....who knows...whatever you think you might do on tour.
Not necessarily. Once you pass a certain minimum requirement, the chances you'll get more then what she stated is pretty unheard of. I simply don't have the option of seeing more people in Toronto - where as when I'm traveling, people know I won't be there next week, so they're going to contact me during my stay.
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I agree with WTF in that I have no right to know how you spent your day. Having said that, I think I would avoid ladies who travel to my city because I think I would expect them to see as many men as possible to maximize their return and that is a turnoff to me.
What if she traveled to your city just to see you? I have a friend in San Antonio that I have made the drive for on more than one occasion. I don't see anyone else but him when I'm there.
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I agree with WTF in that I have no right to know how you spent your day. Having said that, I think I would avoid ladies who travel to my city because I think I would expect them to see as many men as possible to maximize their return and that is a turnoff to me. But, that probably pertains more to the ladies who charge a rather pedestrian fee for their time as opposed to a lady has a higher rate.

As I have mentioned in some other posts, I'm new with this, and so far, it hasn't been so good. So what do I know? LOL.
You have no right to know but can certainly ask....

You can also time your date so you are first (at least that day)

But then as I alluded to in another post, it really becomes a financial analysis...you can see what she charges, her minimum stay, estimate her expenses & get a decent estimate of at least how many she's seeing
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Not necessarily. Once you pass a certain minimum requirement, the chances you'll get more then what she stated is pretty unheard of. I simply don't have the option of seeing more people in Toronto - where as when I'm traveling, people know I won't be there next week, so they're going to contact me during my stay.

You make a good point. It may not be as "easy" as I suggested, but there still may be some ways of managing your schedule such that you could simulate touring, but again, fair point, probably not as "easy" as I suggested.
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I feel I have been blessed with my trips to Dallas. The gentlemen have been great. I let one particular gentleman know when I will be there and make plans around our dinner date. When he has flown me out there I didn't see anybody else. I had the time, but out of respect I only saw him.

The nights I have a dinner date I don't see anybody else that day. On days that I don't have a dinner date I try to see two people. I'm not very accommodating though. I book dates on my clock. Noonish and after 7pm. I don't know why but I love a nap after my noon appointment.
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... I can easily go multiple weeks without plans to have a date.
I hear you, it can be feast or famine in this business. Sometimes the mail box is full of suitable suitors and you have to turn some away and other times you have to check your website to make sure the email address is still listed.

And just when you think no one cares, you get an invite for a week in the islands. Gotta love the ride!
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I feel I have been blessed with my trips to Dallas. The gentlemen have been great...
I have been wanting to do a tour of Dallas, but I don't want to go when you're there, Ansley. I would love to meet you next time you visit Houston, but I'm afraid if I go to Dallas when you're there - all the good ones will be taken.
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