Hoe-flation is Alive and Well at CL!

[Ron_Mexico91]

I don't know if this is a result of Covid or if there is some magic hoe fairy out there spreading his stimulus check, but in my experiences returning to CL the Cubanas are charging the incel rate to even the most established of veterans.

Prior to Covid, the market rate was $100 for CBJ (or BJ depending on the girl) and $150 for CFS without dispute or hesitation. Now, chicas are unanimously charging $150 for CBJ and upwards of $300 for CFS with $250 being the lowest offer I have come across. This is laughable considering each time you're in a cramped makeshift fort with the chica rushing through in order to get on stage. It is never an amazing experience, but for the right price it's worth the money--not to mention cheaper and more convenient than dating regular women.

I made this thread after reading about the experiences some guys had with "club fees" and to set the record straight of how it is (well, supposed to be).

--The "club fee" is $50. No more. Any chica who tells you otherwise is full of shit and taking you for a fool.
--If a girl offers you more than $150 for CFS, again, she is ripping you off. The real price is $100 for service and $50 for the club. I have had multiple girls in there at this price point this year, and even the ones I have been with are trying to charge more. I call them out on their bullshit, remind them of the real price, and stand firm. I will not give in to hoe-flation.
--If a girl offers you more than $100 for CBJ, again, she is taking you for a ride (and not a fun one). The real price is $50 for service and $50 for the club.

What we need to do: STAND FIRM. Don't be a pussy who gives into the demands of the big bad 5 foot hottie in a bra. Stick to the prices listed above, and if they balk, let them walk. I personally use this phrase: "estas perdiendo dinero." This translates to "you are losing money." This is the truth-- Covid is harsh to women in this business, which is why hoe-flation is so baffling. In a regular market when demand is low, sellers lower the price. For reasons I do not know, this is not happening here. My guess is that they think they are making up for lost income by charging more, but even if this is the case it makes no sense for them not to provide at the real rates listed above. Other than some clowns out there paying crazy rates, I don't have an idea as to why this is the case.

Don't be the strip club white knight or captain help a hoe. The customer is always right and in this business we control the market.

[marvelousntx]

Originally Posted by Ron_Mexico91

I don't know if this is a result of Covid or if there is some magic hoe fairy out there spreading his stimulus check, but in my experiences returning to CL the Cubanas are charging the incel rate to even the most established of veterans.

Prior to Covid, the market rate was $100 for CBJ (or BJ depending on the girl) and $150 for CFS without dispute or hesitation. Now, chicas are unanimously charging $150 for CBJ and upwards of $300 for CFS with $250 being the lowest offer I have come across. This is laughable considering each time you're in a cramped makeshift fort with the chica rushing through in order to get on stage. It is never an amazing experience, but for the right price it's worth the money--not to mention cheaper and more convenient than dating regular women.

I made this thread after reading about the experiences some guys had with "club fees" and to set the record straight of how it is (well, supposed to be).

--The "club fee" is $50. No more. Any chica who tells you otherwise is full of shit and taking you for a fool.
--If a girl offers you more than $150 for CFS, again, she is ripping you off. The real price is $100 for service and $50 for the club. I have had multiple girls in there at this price point this year, and even the ones I have been with are trying to charge more. I call them out on their bullshit, remind them of the real price, and stand firm. I will not give in to hoe-flation.
--If a girl offers you more than $100 for CBJ, again, she is taking you for a ride (and not a fun one). The real price is $50 for service and $50 for the club.

What we need to do: STAND FIRM. Don't be a pussy who gives into the demands of the big bad 5 foot hottie in a bra. Stick to the prices listed above, and if they balk, let them walk. I personally use this phrase: "estas perdiendo dinero." This translates to "you are losing money." This is the truth-- Covid is harsh to women in this business, which is why hoe-flation is so baffling. In a regular market when demand is low, sellers lower the price. For reasons I do not know, this is not happening here. My guess is that they think they are making up for lost income by charging more, but even if this is the case it makes no sense for them not to provide at the real rates listed above. Other than some clowns out there paying crazy rates, I don't have an idea as to why this is the case.

Don't be the strip club white knight or captain help a hoe. The customer is always right and in this business we control the market.

I've always been amazed at the amount of money I read some guys spend in strip clubs to go to VIP with a girl for an hour. And it's always the same mess. I was thinking with the wrong head. No, you're an idiot.

[Ron_Mexico91]

Originally Posted by marvelousntx

I've always been amazed at the amount of money I read some guys spend in strip clubs to go to VIP with a girl for an hour. And it's always the same mess. I was thinking with the wrong head. No, you're an idiot.

Oh man don't even get me started on that mess! Those dudes are idiots!! You're better off playing by the rules and wining and dining a broad than following the example of these guys

[friendly fred]

You cannot possibly make the price the same for an average looking and overweight girl who rushes through the process versus a very pretty, skinny and personable girl who puts forth an extra effort to help you enjoy the experience.

Economic variations in value demand different levels of contributions.

To make the business sustainable for all the parties it must reflect a value for value exchange.

[Mental AtrraXXXion]

Negotiate

[Chung Tran]

I'll go a step further.

once a Chica asks for too much, that's it. I won't try to lower her price, to see if she'll bite. too late for that. if she went along, her service would drop, IMO.. and we are off to a bad start, since she already tried to scam me. next in line, please.

[Mental AtrraXXXion]

I have negotiated in CL before. The service was as good as it can be with the conditions at CL.

[Hyperfx]

Tell them donde we banoes ,,, ANZ go wipe yor skank ass

[Ron_Mexico91]

Originally Posted by friendly fred

You cannot possibly make the price the same for an average looking and overweight girl who rushes through the process versus a very pretty, skinny and personable girl who puts forth an extra effort to help you enjoy the experience.

Economic variations in value demand different levels of contributions.

To make the business sustainable for all the parties it must reflect a value for value exchange.

I've had the same level of service from multiple of the hottest women in there at the above price point. This simply is not true. You are getting ripped off.

To the folks saying negotiate, I agree. They are sticking to their guns and so am I.

[pathfinder420]

From my experience, you can get pretty much anything for around $100 (+/- $20). SOMEONE will bite; and you'd be surprised who will for that price.

[danjones1007]

Agreed, you have to stick to somewhere close to reasonable without looking too cheap. Have had some good luck here. By the way, why are the girls at BDD so outrageously priced besides they think they can get away with those rates? I had one babe quote 1000 bucks.

[Chung Tran]

friend of mine was quoted $600 by a "cute for a black girl" Dancer, who he was bantering with.. he declined. he doesn't even like black girls. it was embarrassing how he fawned over her, which led up to her $600 quote. he straight up said things like "you're pretty for a black girl". she ignored the offensive remarks.. "I get told that a lot, and that I'm a lot of guys' first black girl". she wasn't going to let semi-racist remarks deter her from a potential big pay day

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Ron_Mexico91

I've had the same level of service from multiple of the hottest women in there at the above price point. This simply is not true. You are getting ripped off.

To the folks saying negotiate, I agree. They are sticking to their guns and so am I.

I suppose if you have game and catch a girl at the right time you might occasionally beat the odds.

However, the way the world works is that the truly hot girls get plenty of opportunities and rarely give it away for too low a price like some fat and ugly girl.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to fight the obvious and try to charm the prettiest girl in a club. I just pay up, get what I want, then move on to the next girl because I love variety and I love them to be extremely pretty and skinny.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

friend of mine was quoted $600 by a "cute for a black girl" Dancer, who he was bantering with.. he declined. he doesn't even like black girls. it was embarrassing how he fawned over her, which led up to her $600 quote. he straight up said things like "you're pretty for a black girl". she ignored the offensive remarks.. "I get told that a lot, and that I'm a lot of guys' first black girl". she wasn't going to let semi-racist remarks deter her from a potential big pay day

I’ve been with plenty of black girls and would never say something so stupid like that - I wouldn’t want her to think I was a stupid motherfucker.

(Of course, they were all skinny)

[dtaylor1972]

Originally Posted by friendly fred

I have neither the time nor the inclination to fight the obvious and try to charm the prettiest girl in a club. I just pay up, get what I want, then move on to the next girl because I love variety and I love them to be extremely pretty and skinny.

And this is why the price of pussy has skyrocketed over the last few years! Fools with more $$ than sense shelling out 100 for a cbj, and shelling out 2-300+ for an hour of backpage girl level service..3-500 for a mid level girl.

Yes, better lookers can demand more..BUT if the service dont match (and it usually doesnt...) its a waste of time to me...FUN maybe, but still a waste.

Not just here in the US.. we overpay to look like big spenders in Thailand, Colombia, Costa Rica, DR... and Jack the rates up there too!

Rant over...and BTW...Latinas offer gringos the gringo rate just to see if you are dumb enough to take it...Negotiation is a way of life where they come from.