Intact or Cut?

[VeryClean]

Ladies, do you prefer intact or cut cocks? Or do you not have a preference as long as it's clean?

If you would rather not meet a gentleman with an intact junior, then please reply to this thread so that those men can know and avoid contacting you. Thanks.

[BBW Katrina]

Ummm cut for sure. I will see somebody in the hobby with uncut, but I will not see somebody in my personal life that is uncut...

[VeryClean]

Originally Posted by BBW Katrina

Ummm cut for sure. I will see somebody in the hobby with uncut, but I will not see somebody in my personal life that is uncut...

Appreciate the honesty, Katrina!

[alaine]

It's all good as long as it's "VeryClean". There are some cultures that are apparently NOT taught as children how to retract the foreskin and clean underneath. This can result in the foreskin becoming too tight to retract. Those guys really need to have a circumcision done as adults, if they want to be clean. This particular scenario is one of a few that just grosses me out. It's NOT clean and nearly impossible to put a cover on.

[VeryClean]

Originally Posted by alaine

It's all good as long as it's "VeryClean". There are some cultures that are apparently NOT taught as children how to retract the foreskin and clean underneath. This can result in the foreskin becoming too tight to retract. Those guys really need to have a circumcision done as adults, if they want to be clean. This particular scenario is one of a few that just grosses me out. It's NOT clean and nearly impossible to put a cover on.

It's all good as long as it's "VeryClean".

Yes, I agree a 100 percent. That's why I retract my foreskin and clean underneath whenever I take a shower, which is twice a day. I also of course take a shower right before a session and clean underneath then too.

Any man suffering from phimosis (tight foreskin that can't retract for those who may not know) should seek immediate medical treatment. There are other treatments that could work such as topical application of steroid creams but ultimately if nothing works, circumcision is the ultimate answer and must be done if no other treatment approach works.

In general, I believe that both the provider and the client have to make sure they are scrupulously clean before they proceed with a session. A man, regardless of whether he is cut or intact, should not have slimy stinky balls, body odor, or bad breath during a session.

[GingerKatt]

I most definitely prefer cut! Maybe it's just because that's what I've seen 95% of the time, give or take. So uncut looks a little strange to me. And yes, I'm also a little worried about the hygiene aspect of it, if a gentleman wants oral, which they always do of course. I can insist that a man takes a shower at my place, but I can't really sit and stare at the package to see if he appropriately pulls the skin back and thoroughly cleans ALL of the area around it.

And frankly, to me, it feels weird in the mouth if he doesn't rise very quickly. I DO LIKE the idea that the tip is supposed to be more sensitive when it's covered up most of the time.

And I had one nice man who I didn't even realize was uncut until after all the activities had taken place and I was washing him off. Apparently, he'd had a "semi" the entire session from when I first unzipped his pants and pulled his undies down. So it looked cut to me, and he was only at half staff. So I didn't think a thing about it and had no worries. I just got a little surprised when all flags were lowered.

VeryClean, you seem to have the whole hygiene issue totally taken care of. I would never discriminate against a very clean uncut man. It's not something I've ever asked a prospective visitor while screening. ANY man that walks in can be in need of washing. If he doesn't smell right, I just get up and turn the shower on. He can shower or leave.

I had never heard the term "meat curtains" in relation to a woman's labia, before joining Eccie. But I understand now that some women have large hanging lips and vulva. Some men are ok with all that tissue and some not so much, right?

[Plains45]

I expect many American women to prefer cut versus a natural penis. They've been conditioned to think it's normal...losing about 20,000 nerve endings. Younger generations are starting to learn that cutting is really unnecessary unless there's a specific medical reason for it

[VeryClean]

Originally Posted by GingerKatt

I most definitely prefer cut! Maybe it's just because that's what I've seen 95% of the time, give or take. So uncut looks a little strange to me. And yes, I'm also a little worried about the hygiene aspect of it, if a gentleman wants oral, which they always do of course. I can insist that a man takes a shower at my place, but I can't really sit and stare at the package to see if he appropriately pulls the skin back and thoroughly cleans ALL of the area around it.

And frankly, to me, it feels weird in the mouth if he doesn't rise very quickly. I DO LIKE the idea that the tip is supposed to be more sensitive when it's covered up most of the time.

And I had one nice man who I didn't even realize was uncut until after all the activities had taken place and I was washing him off. Apparently, he'd had a "semi" the entire session from when I first unzipped his pants and pulled his undies down. So it looked cut to me, and he was only at half staff. So I didn't think a thing about it and had no worries. I just got a little surprised when all flags were lowered.

VeryClean, you seem to have the whole hygiene issue totally taken care of. I would never discriminate against a very clean uncut man. It's not something I've ever asked a prospective visitor while screening. ANY man that walks in can be in need of washing. If he doesn't smell right, I just get up and turn the shower on. He can shower or leave.

I had never heard the term "meat curtains" in relation to a woman's labia, before joining Eccie. But I understand now that some women have large hanging lips and vulva. Some men are ok with all that tissue and some not so much, right?

GK, I loved reading your well written thoughtful reply! All the reasons you gave for preferring a cut penis make a lot of sense and are also why a lot of other American ladies prefer cut penises as well.

When you've grown up only seeing circumcised penises everywhere, in porn, in real life etc. then yeah, an uncut cock will look a little strange. The circumcised cut penis becomes the gold standard in your life and anything else will look strange.

Most European men are uncut with intact foreskins and therefore, European women are used to uncut cocks. It doesn't look strange to them the way it may look strange to an American woman. It's all about perspective in the end. In fact in Europe and other parts of the world, a man with a circumcised cut cock may be considered a Jewish or Muslim man unless he states otherwise. This is because Jewish and Muslim men have to get circumcised since both their religions demand it.

I can also understand it feeling a bit weird in your mouth because you're feeling the extra foreskin which is completely absent in a cut penis. However, when the uncut cock is erect with the foreskin retracted, it will feel very similar to that of a cut cock except the penis tip will be softer which I've been told is not altogether an unpleasant feeling. For example, when I met Anhellica, an ECCIE provider for those who don't know, in early 2018, she wasn't used to an uncut intact cock but she enjoyed it. The foreskin was retracted and she said the tip felt soft which was a different sensation for her but a pleasant one, according to her.

Even if it doesn't feel better, it shouldn't feel worse (after the foreskin is retracted). GK, you confirmed that yourself when you told us about that one client of yours that you didn't even know was uncut till the end.

Yep you're right about the tip being more sensitive for us intact men. Sometimes we have to tell ladies who're not used to intact penises to be more gentle because of the increased sensitivity.

Also thank you for the kind words and yes, I'm very particular about my personal hygiene. I think that's why I haven't had much issues seeing ladies, even ladies who might not be too happy with uncut cocks.

From my experience, pussies can look & taste very different! Some pussies have a lot of extra hanging tissue aka the dangling pussy lips or meat curtains like you mentioned. Some pussies have none of that and are more of the "innie type". You'll have people who tell you that the meaty looking pussies are ugly & the innie pussies are pretty but I can see beauty in all types of pussies.

Furthermore, just because a woman has a pussy with a lot of "meat curtains" doesn't mean that she has to be an unattractive woman. For example, Chanel Wetmouth, an ECCIE and P411 provider, has a meaty pussy but she's also one of the most beautiful women in the world. I met her a few months ago and I loved eating her meaty pussy. So clean & tasty, I could have eaten her out all day and not got tired. Seriously.

You're right though GK, some men like myself have no problem with meaty pussies but other men don't like it. I imagine the same is true for bisexual and gay women if we ask them about their pussy preferences.

[Plains45]

Dug up some info that American doctors rarely share with new parents in the hospital:

Functions of the Foreskin


What does the male foreskin do? Foreskin...

Protects the infant from contaminants, infection, and meatal stenosis.

The foreskin is fused to the head of the penis in infancy[1], providing protection. The preputial sphincter at the tip specifically serves as a simple barrier that keeps out environmental contamination. It is not designed to be pulled back in infancy or childhood. Meatal stenosis (narrowing or closing of the urethral hole) occurs in approximately 10% of circumcised boys[2] and sometimes requires painful corrective surgery.

Protects the adult glans from chafing and loss of feeling.

When the mucosa of the glans are exposed to chafing, the glans protects itself by keratinizing[3] (similar to a callous). Foreskin keeps the glans internal, as it is supposed to be. The more the glans keratinizes, the less it can feel.[4]

Stores and releases natural lubricants.

With natural lubricant,[5] men with foreskin generally do not need lotion or lubricant for sexual activity. Women benefit from the lower risk of friction and dryness that a man's foreskin provides. It also serves to seal in the female sexual partner’s lubrication, preventing it from losing its effectiveness.[6]

Feels good for its owner with specialized pleasure nerves.

The foreskin is densely innervated with multiple types of nerves.[7] These nerves respond to stretch, fine touch detail, temperature, and more. Foreskin feels really good.

Delivers pleasure to the male's partner.

The presence of the male foreskin is inherently pleasurable in intercourse. In particular, it stimulates the female clitoris in certain sexual positions.

Rolls/glides rather than rubs. This helps prevent friction and dryness, eases penetration, and provides pleasure.

The mechanics of sexual activity are changed dramatically with circumcision, from rolling to rubbing. Circumcised males "tend to thrust harder and deeper, using elongated strokes," but intact males tend "to thrust more gently, to have shorter strokes, and tended to be in contact with the mons pubis and clitoris more."[6] Also, the sliding/gliding motion of the foreskin over the glans and corona is deeply pleasurable for the male and makes initial insertion of the penis easier and more comfortable for both partners.

Keeps the head of the penis warm, moist, and comfortable.

Like the eyeball, inside of the cheek, and vagina, the glans is designed to be a protected internal organ.[3]

Provides sensory feedback, giving the man greater control of the sexual experience.

The structures of the foreskin provide full, natural levels of neurological feedback, which allow robust control over erection, arousal, and orgasm.

Facilitates erection and ejaculation when wanted.

The foreskin contains the most pleasurable parts of the penis. This complete sensation, elimination of friction and pain, and other functions reduce the risk of erectile and ejaculatory problems.[8]

Helps prevent erection and ejaculation when unwanted.

The foreskin protects the glans from being aroused at inappropriate times, reducing involuntary erections. Feedback helps prevent premature ejaculation.

Maximizes penile length and thickness.

It's common sense: if you cut part of something off, you make it smaller. This has been observed by professional journals, including one which found that the penises of circumcised males were an average of almost 1 centimeter shorter.[9]

Feels details as well as the fingertips can.

The specialized nerves don't just feel good - they feel well.[7]

Increases sexual arousal.

Apocrine glands in the foreskin[10] may release pheromones, signal chemicals that help encourage sexual arousal in the man's partner. The foreskin also prevents discoloration of the red/purple/pink head of the penis, preserving the sexual signal conveyed by this natural coloration.

Defends against harmful germs.

Specialized cells provide defense against unhealthy microbes.[10] As long as the man washes occasionally with water, not soap, the microbial balance of the area remains healthy and infections are prevented.

Prevents painful erections.

An intact man is safe from "not enough skin" erection problems.[11] The foreskin is a part of a whole penile skin system – it expands and moves along with erection. In addition, the frenar band massages the glans during sliding/gliding, regulating blood flow and preventing the erection from becoming "too hard," which can happen with some men.

Prevents pain after orgasm.

Without correct protection and mechanical function, some men experience a burning or other pain after ejaculation.[12]

[BBW Katrina]

Originally Posted by VeryClean

Appreciate the honesty, Katrina!

I realize may not always have the most popular opinion, but I can guarantee you, you will always get an honest answer out of me regardless...

P.S. I had a really big crush on a Catholic boy in high school, and the first time we messed around, I realized he had an uncircumcised penis and it was the first one I had ever encountered and although I was a little taken back by it, I still continued to fuck him....and did I die? NO! Lol. It's just a preference thing 😘

[VeryClean]

Originally Posted by BBW Katrina

I realize may not always have the most popular opinion, but I can guarantee you, you will always get an honest answer out of me regardless...

P.S. I had a really big crush on a Catholic boy in high school, and the first time we messed around, I realized he had an uncircumcised penis and it was the first one I had ever encountered and although I was a little taken back by it, I still continued to fuck him....and did I die? NO! Lol. It's just a preference thing 😘

I would much rather be friends with an honest person like you than a two faced liar who tells me what he/she thinks I want to hear and then does something else behind my back. It takes courage to be honest, especially when you know that what you're going to say may upset the other person. I only feel respect towards you right now, real talk.

[VeryClean]

Originally Posted by Plains45

Dug up some info that American doctors rarely share with new parents in the hospital:

Functions of the Foreskin


What does the male foreskin do? Foreskin...

Protects the infant from contaminants, infection, and meatal stenosis.

The foreskin is fused to the head of the penis in infancy[1], providing protection. The preputial sphincter at the tip specifically serves as a simple barrier that keeps out environmental contamination. It is not designed to be pulled back in infancy or childhood. Meatal stenosis (narrowing or closing of the urethral hole) occurs in approximately 10% of circumcised boys[2] and sometimes requires painful corrective surgery.

Protects the adult glans from chafing and loss of feeling.

When the mucosa of the glans are exposed to chafing, the glans protects itself by keratinizing[3] (similar to a callous). Foreskin keeps the glans internal, as it is supposed to be. The more the glans keratinizes, the less it can feel.[4]

Stores and releases natural lubricants.

With natural lubricant,[5] men with foreskin generally do not need lotion or lubricant for sexual activity. Women benefit from the lower risk of friction and dryness that a man's foreskin provides. It also serves to seal in the female sexual partner’s lubrication, preventing it from losing its effectiveness.[6]

Feels good for its owner with specialized pleasure nerves.

The foreskin is densely innervated with multiple types of nerves.[7] These nerves respond to stretch, fine touch detail, temperature, and more. Foreskin feels really good.

Delivers pleasure to the male's partner.

The presence of the male foreskin is inherently pleasurable in intercourse. In particular, it stimulates the female clitoris in certain sexual positions.

Rolls/glides rather than rubs. This helps prevent friction and dryness, eases penetration, and provides pleasure.

The mechanics of sexual activity are changed dramatically with circumcision, from rolling to rubbing. Circumcised males "tend to thrust harder and deeper, using elongated strokes," but intact males tend "to thrust more gently, to have shorter strokes, and tended to be in contact with the mons pubis and clitoris more."[6] Also, the sliding/gliding motion of the foreskin over the glans and corona is deeply pleasurable for the male and makes initial insertion of the penis easier and more comfortable for both partners.

Keeps the head of the penis warm, moist, and comfortable.

Like the eyeball, inside of the cheek, and vagina, the glans is designed to be a protected internal organ.[3]

Provides sensory feedback, giving the man greater control of the sexual experience.

The structures of the foreskin provide full, natural levels of neurological feedback, which allow robust control over erection, arousal, and orgasm.

Facilitates erection and ejaculation when wanted.

The foreskin contains the most pleasurable parts of the penis. This complete sensation, elimination of friction and pain, and other functions reduce the risk of erectile and ejaculatory problems.[8]

Helps prevent erection and ejaculation when unwanted.

The foreskin protects the glans from being aroused at inappropriate times, reducing involuntary erections. Feedback helps prevent premature ejaculation.

Maximizes penile length and thickness.

It's common sense: if you cut part of something off, you make it smaller. This has been observed by professional journals, including one which found that the penises of circumcised males were an average of almost 1 centimeter shorter.[9]

Feels details as well as the fingertips can.

The specialized nerves don't just feel good - they feel well.[7]

Increases sexual arousal.

Apocrine glands in the foreskin[10] may release pheromones, signal chemicals that help encourage sexual arousal in the man's partner. The foreskin also prevents discoloration of the red/purple/pink head of the penis, preserving the sexual signal conveyed by this natural coloration.

Defends against harmful germs.

Specialized cells provide defense against unhealthy microbes.[10] As long as the man washes occasionally with water, not soap, the microbial balance of the area remains healthy and infections are prevented.

Prevents painful erections.

An intact man is safe from "not enough skin" erection problems.[11] The foreskin is a part of a whole penile skin system – it expands and moves along with erection. In addition, the frenar band massages the glans during sliding/gliding, regulating blood flow and preventing the erection from becoming "too hard," which can happen with some men.

Prevents pain after orgasm.

Without correct protection and mechanical function, some men experience a burning or other pain after ejaculation.[12]

Wow! I have an intact foreskin and I've done some research on the benefits and even I didn't know about half the stuff you posted! Thank you buddy for sharing this useful info here.

[LuvHerMadlyEverytime]

OUCH! All this talk about cutting a banana is making me want to cross my legs. SHIVERS!

[GingerKatt]

Plains45, You're absolutely right. That's a lot of great info, most of which I didn't know. And I was in the medical field for over 12 years and even had a long rotation in OB/GYN and the newborn nursery. And if they're not teaching that in school, they're certainly not telling the parents about it. I've been present as many new parents asked their doctors about circumcision, and their questions were not answered like that!

You made a lot of great points, and I do know the trend is now moving toward NOT cutting a baby boy. I've also been present at many of those procedures and have been responsible for cleaning the baby up, stopping the bleeding and quieting him down. In my experience it's usually been the father's choice; who wants his son to look like him.

And I do know it's mostly an American thing. As Americans become better educated, maybe things will change. Thanks for the info.

I mainly knew the one thing I told VeryClean, that the tip was more sensitive when it was covered most of the time. I loved your response VC! Makes me want more experimentation with that sensitivity. My favorite part of a horse, besides a pretty mane and tail of course, is that incredibly soft spot between their nostrils, on their nose. It's the most velvety, softest, warmest spot on a horse and I could pet it all day. That's what I think of now that you've described how it feels when your sensitive tip peeks out! I just want to touch it softly and kiss it like on horses. Well, not quite like on horses. Horses are to pet and play with and men are to ride, pet and play with.

Don't be offended! The horse analogy is really a compliment. I'm very touchy feely and there's nothing better than using my fingertips to explore something that feels good.

[LustyBustyGina38FF]

as long as he clean and takes care of himself
I like both , cut & uncut