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01-18-2011, 10:57 AM
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Not mixing your incall with your actual home is spot on advice though along with not leading your client on into thinking the relationship is something more than it is.
I sooo agree with both pieces of advice. I have a friend who does incall in her home and it scares me. A doorman building where vistors are moderated is one thing, an unsecured apt. totally different.
The leading someone on thing plays head games which can implode.
I had a vice cop in Vegas tell me most working girls get hurt there because the guy catches them stealing.
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01-18-2011, 11:15 AM
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[SIZE=3]I hate to say it Ms nina who gets my panties wet but the above is somewhat misleading. Most women, not just escorts, are murdered by someone close to them. While prostitution has its risks it is not up there with the most dangerous per mortality rate.
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true too, but sometimes John`S and escorts can get awfully close...;-)
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01-18-2011, 11:16 AM
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I sooo agree with both pieces of advice. I have a friend who does incall in her home and it scares me.
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too many women do. in the USA that is. I think in europe no one would have the idea to bring John`s into private homes. It comes with the nature of the buz.
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01-18-2011, 11:49 AM
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Prostitution may have the highest rate among women. The list PJ provided is male dominated professions.
per your link;
Violence against prostitutes especially affects female prostitutes, who are at risk of violent crime, [1] as well as possibly at higher risk of occupational mortality than any other group of women ever studied.
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Interesting point, WTF. I lived in a gay section of Dallas years ago. I'd be willing to bet that the violence against gays, and especially gay prostitutes, far surpasses the violence against female prostitutes. And a lot of it was random "beat the shit out of him" kind of violence which was done for sport.
Sucks, no matter who you are.
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01-18-2011, 12:31 PM
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true too, but sometimes John`S and escorts can get awfully close...;-)
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Yes, so true but if the majority of deaths result from someone close to you....how important is screening in this regard? I realize its importance in LE matters. That is why I so agree with this notion of not having your incall in your house.
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01-18-2011, 12:46 PM
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Re: Mortality Rates and Prostitution
I too would question such a statistic without being able to look at how they compiled the data in more detail.
Such a statistic would be impossible to calculate accurately. Getting an accurate count of how many women are active would be nearly impossible, and thus compared to how many are killed - you can't judge the mortality rate.
Furthermore, it's likely mortality rate is highest amongst those involved in gag related behavior, who are forced into prostitution, or who participate as street walkers. Which according to current studies makes up less then 20% of estimated women involved. This statistic would likely not be the same amongst women who are in agencies and work independently free of choice, in private, with screening and information being shared.
I've known many a woman across North America in the decade I've participated. One was murdered, another attacked but fine. That's a tiny percentage of the people I've met. Also of all the women I've known, nearly none have themselves heard or had direct knowledge of a date ending in death.
If the mortality rate were truly one of the highest, more than other far more dangerous professions such as soldiers or firemen (or as PJ listed, Timber cutters, fishers and pilots), then nearly every woman would have direct knowledge of someone who lost their life. This simply does not seem to be the case.
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01-18-2011, 01:06 PM
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Wow, I really am in the minority on this one. I have always felt comfortable seeing my regular long term clients at my home. .I trust my regular clients I have known some of them for a few years now.Most know my personal info just as I know theirs, and I do not see any need to feel that guarded around them.
Of course it is not something I would recommend to anyone who feels uncomfortable with the idea, and if you live with children I think it would be a terrible one., but it does just goes to show that for every rule that appears to be set in stone in our business there is someone out there who feels perfectly comfortable breaking it.
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01-18-2011, 01:08 PM
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Wow, I really am in the minority on this one. I have always felt comfortable seeing my regular long term clients at my home.
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Add one more to your side: I would never meet new dates at my home, or even people I've known a short while.
However a gentlemen I've known for over 5 years regularly stays at my home. There are other gentlemen, who have let me know everything about their lives and some have gone so far as to introduce me to work associates and friends - who get invitations to come to my home for a home-cooked meal.
You can be just as paranoid about anyone you meet, in a bar, at work or through friends. Murders and rapes are often committed by people who were familiar, not strangers. So on that note, why trust anyone enough to invite them to your house? Danger is not limited just to the men we meet as companions. I would question any woman's ability to judge character if she had regular friends who she knew for many years and saw often, but could never bring herself to trust a single one of them.
I do however understand the rule in the name of privacy, afraid relatives or friends might drop in. That neighbours would be curious and other such complications.
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01-18-2011, 01:20 PM
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You can be just as paranoid about anyone you meet, in a bar, at work or through friends. Murders and rapes are often committed by people who were familiar, not strangers. So on that note, why trust anyone enough to invite them to your house? Danger is not limited just to the men we meet as companions. I would question any woman's ability to judge character if she had regular on going meetings with a men for years, and could never bring herself to trust a single one of them.
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Exactly, if I ever feel like I need to remain gaurded around a client that I have known for years it may be time for me to consider finding a new occupation.
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01-18-2011, 01:23 PM
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I too would question such a statistic without being able to look at how they compiled the data in more detail.
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Before we take off more calling this a statistic...let's just look at the statement referred to...
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per your link;
Violence against prostitutes especially affects female prostitutes, who are at risk of violent crime, [1] as well as possibly at higher risk of occupational mortality than any other group of women ever studied.
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1st, it says "as well as possibly"...that is hardly a final conclusion of anything.
2nd, it says "any other group of women"...so, as pointed out above, it is only women's groups.
3rd, it says "group of women ever studied"...so if there has not been a study on it, they are not considered for the "possibly" conclusion.
It is just somebody's thoughts, and doesn't really have much validity for anything.
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01-18-2011, 01:30 PM
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It is just somebody's thoughts, and doesn't really have much validity for anything.
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But it is on the web, doesn't that count?
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01-18-2011, 01:33 PM
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But it is on the web, doesn't that count?
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Then it has to be true.
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01-18-2011, 02:41 PM
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But it is on the web, doesn't that count?
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Then it has to be true.
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I think Bush did it.
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01-18-2011, 02:53 PM
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But it is on the web, doesn't that count?
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Then it has to be true.
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I think Bush did it.
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Didn't you know Gore invented the 'net?
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01-18-2011, 03:01 PM
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Didn't you know Gore invented the 'net?
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Is it cold in here?
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