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06-20-2012, 11:26 PM
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The Bush 43 decision was because deporting the people to their home country would have put their lives at risk. Big difference from this decision.
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06-21-2012, 12:04 AM
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The Bush 43 decision was because deporting the people to their home country would have put their lives at risk. Big difference from this decision.
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Differences are irrelevant. He did it. Period.
It's either legal or it's not.
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06-21-2012, 03:37 AM
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I got news for you Doove, if you listen to Obama long enough you will hear him say exactly two different things about the same topic and this is for people just like you. You hear both but only believe the one you want. Remember both videos, if Obama said it then he said it even if he lies the next day.
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06-21-2012, 07:02 AM
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The Bush 43 decision was because deporting the people to their home country would have put their lives at risk. Big difference from this decision.
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Bush decision = to save lives
Odumbo decision = pander to voters
Yeah, it's easy to see how Doofus might equate those actions as being equal in law.
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06-21-2012, 10:45 AM
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Bush decision = to save lives
Odumbo decision = pander to voters
Yeah, it's easy to see how Doofus might equate those actions as being equal in law.
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Show me the qualifier in the law that makes what you say is illegal, legal if it's to save lives.
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06-21-2012, 11:15 AM
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Show me the qualifier in the law that makes what you say is illegal, legal if it's to save lives.
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First, cite W's executive order -- verbatim and w/ site.
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06-21-2012, 11:52 AM
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First, cite W's executive order -- verbatim and w/ site.
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Nope. I'm not the one trying to defend it by saying "it's different".
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06-21-2012, 11:59 AM
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Nope. I'm not the one trying to defend it by saying "it's different".
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Nor have you proved W did what you said he did, Doofus.
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06-21-2012, 01:24 PM
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Nor have you proved W did what you said he did, Doofus.
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That's somewhat irrelevant at this point, though i do think the daily show video points it out.
Nevertheless, the issue now is your apparent willingness to be a hypocrite, as proven in post #124.
You've shown your hand. Convince us you're not a willing hypocrite.
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06-21-2012, 01:36 PM
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That's somewhat irrelevant at this point, though i do think the daily show video points it out.
Nevertheless, the issue now is your apparent willingness to be a hypocrite, as proven in post #124.
You've shown your hand. Convince us you're not a willing hypocrite.
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So your saying you cannot prove the substance of your argument heretofore, Doofus? Because the conjecture at post #124 is based entirely on your argument and not substantive proof.
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06-21-2012, 01:46 PM
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So your saying you cannot prove the substance of your argument heretofore, Doofus? Because the conjecture at post #124 is based entirely on your argument and not substantive proof.
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not that it matters to dumb shits like IB but they/he might as well chew on this
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12711
notice the wording IB .. AS THE PRESIDENT BY THE CONSTITUTION
now go fuck yourself
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06-21-2012, 02:16 PM
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Differences are irrelevant. He did it. Period.
It's either legal or it's not.
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The US has always had a policy of giving people, who would be endangered by sending them back to their country of origin, sanctuary. That is an established policy that has been in effect for a long time.
There is no claim that the citizens of Mexico would be endangered by them returning to Mexico.
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06-21-2012, 02:21 PM
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There is no claim that the citizens of Mexico would be endangered by them returning to Mexico.
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BS, we are giving their drug dealers guns!
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06-21-2012, 02:27 PM
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BS, we are giving their drug dealers guns!
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or get their heads lopped off
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06-21-2012, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz
The US has always had a policy of giving people, who would be endangered by sending them back to their country of origin, sanctuary. That is an established policy that has been in effect for a long time.
There is no claim that the citizens of Mexico would be endangered by them returning to Mexico.
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You're right, it's not a matter of sanctuary. We seem to always err on the side of leniency with illegal aliens, as if we can afford to always absorb the monetary loss connected with taking in third world illegals. Maybe we could in the past; we can't anymore.
This country seems to have some sort of delusional idea that we can't go broke. People think the poem on the Statue of Liberty that says "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses" is the law of the land; it isn't, it's just a poem. We need to tell the huddled masses to stay home and the ones who came here illegally need to be deported. We're broke. At the rate we're going, we're all going to be huddled masses pretty soon.
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