The only demographic in America that reliably opposes abortion access is older men

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

Supreme Court: states should decide
States: county should decide
County: city should decide
City: neighborhood should decide
Neighborhood: woman should decide

So in other words, let's just get rid of State Legislatures and every county in a State can have different laws and in your neighborhood, what ever the hell that encompasses, only women should vote. Yeah, that ought out to pass Constitutional muster but Oh, that's right the SC is so passe.


Every county and every neighborhood should abide by the laws of the State because the Representatives are there to vote what their constituents want and it doesn't matter what part of the State you are in.


Your proposal is nonsense and a fantasy........... with all due respect.

[VitaMan]

Not a proposal, young man

A hypothetical

The world might be a better place

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

Supreme Court: states should decide
States: county should decide
County: city should decide
City: neighborhood should decide
Neighborhood: woman should decide

... You forgot one, mate. .. . After Neighbourhood.

Corner Pub: man should decide

#### Salty

[VitaMan]

They should...if they got pregnant

[lustylad]

They're "birthing people" too... what are you, trans-phobic?

[VitaMan]

Really...

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

Not a proposal, young man

A hypothetical

The world might be a better place

Woah! Whoa! Whoa! Didn't you just tell me that hypotheticals shouldn't be used here? That nothing but facts can be discussed?


Post # 39

Now that your other posts failed because you didn't pay attention to the article, you dream up some hypothetical and then pose questions you want answered. Pathetic.

Pathetic indeed.

[VitaMan]

Only accommodating your local customs

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by lustylad

They're "birthing people" too... what are you, trans-phobic?

And yet Biden and Harris both continue to use the word "women" so I guess it falls under "rulesfor thee but not for me" like so many other rules Democrats want.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Simple theory. all people have a right to life...followed by unless they have due process to deprive them of the right. When the unborn person gets due process then we can talk. The left does not like due process. They prefer mob rule and the proverbial rope.

[VitaMan]

There's the rub.


Who is to say when life begins ?

[the_real_Barleycorn]

And the left does not want that discussion...do they?

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

There's the rub.


Who is to say when life begins ?

That is definitely a conversation Democrats don't want to have because I have no doubt that the answer would be when sperm meets egg, they call that fertilization.

Life Begins

at Fertilization with the Embryo's Conception

. "Development of the embryo begins at Stage 1 when a sperm fertilizes an oocyte and together they form a zygote." "Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception).

To lengthy to post but this should answer the question posed.

The question as to when the physical material dimension of a human being begins is strictly a scientific question, and fundamentally should be answered by human embryologists�not by philosophers, bioethicists, theologians, politicians, x-ray technicians, movie stars, or obstetricians and gynecologists. The question as to when a human person begins is a philosophical question.

https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/wdhbb.html


And here ONCE AGAIN is the irony of this discussion. We were told by Democrats, mostly, that we needed to listen and obey science on the subject of vaccines but on the subject of abortion, Democrats will say science doesn't get to decide this and on this I agree. You can believe life begins at conception but as citizens in a Democracy, you SHOULD get to have an opinion of your own and be free to voice that opinion at the ballot box.

[HedonistForever]

Here is another line from the article most probably won't bother to read.

That is, upon fertilization, parts of human beings have actually been transformed into something very different from what they were before; they have been changed into a single, whole human being. During the process of fertilization, the sperm and the oocyte cease to exist as such, and a new human being is produced.

Nope Democrats don't dare ask that question after insisting that we MUST follow the science.

[Jackie S]

The OP states his premise like it is a bad thing.

In every society, someone has to stand up for what is the right ting to do.

In this case, the responsibility falls upon old white men.