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Old 10-25-2021, 11:30 AM   #121
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i do enjoy those defending the "vaccine" side effects, noting that myocarditis is such a SMALL PERCENTAGE and an acceptable risk......
AGAINST A VIRUS THAT HAS A 99.998% SURVIVAL RATE
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Old 10-25-2021, 11:34 AM   #122
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florida has the lowest covid infection rates of any state

what say the alarmist, demeaning, lying, anti desantis media now?
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Old 10-25-2021, 11:55 AM   #123
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florida has the lowest covid infection rates of any state what say the alarmist, demeaning, lying, anti desantis media now?
Florida’s COVID-19 deaths are still among the highest in the nation - Oct 14
https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/health...-in-the-nation

Still less than Texas however. States ranked by COVID-19 death rates - Oct. 25
https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...te-july-1.html

Texas
Deaths per 100,000: 0.6
Daily average deaths: 174.3

Florida
Deaths per 100,000: 0.63
Daily average deaths: 134.9
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Old 10-25-2021, 12:20 PM   #124
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i do enjoy those defending the "vaccine" side effects, noting that myocarditis is such a SMALL PERCENTAGE and an acceptable risk......
AGAINST A VIRUS THAT HAS A 99.998% SURVIVAL RATE
That corresponds with a .002% infection fatality ratio (100% - 99.998% = .002%). Among the U.S. population as a whole, before the vaccine, it was actually about 0.7%, that is, 350X higher than what you posted. COVID this year and last year is/was the 3rd biggest killer of Americans, after heart disease and cancer.
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Old 10-25-2021, 12:25 PM   #125
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Yea...that's who to get medical advice from...Fear Factor,JoeRogan

Who do you get couples counseling from? OJ Simpson?
LOL. Hey, if you want to kill the ***** and get away with it, OJ's probably the one to talk to.
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Old 10-25-2021, 12:37 PM   #126
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If you want to go live on a farm, drive a horse and buggy, and bang one homely looking woman for the rest of your life have at it.
Homely is in the eye of the beholder.

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Homely is in the eye of the beholder.

Good point. However first I'd want to see her body. And also seriously consider whether I want to just bang her for the rest of my life. The issue isn't just religious, but also how are you going to get to incalls with a horse and buggy?
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Good point. However first I'd want to see her body...
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Hmmm, Well, thanks for clarifying that. She'd have real potential with implants. Still I think I'd prefer to get the vaccine and play the field.
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Florida’s COVID-19 deaths are still among the highest in the nation - Oct 14
https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/health...-in-the-nation

Still less than Texas however. States ranked by COVID-19 death rates - Oct. 25
https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...te-july-1.html

Texas
Deaths per 100,000: 0.6
Daily average deaths: 174.3

Florida
Deaths per 100,000: 0.63
Daily average deaths: 134.9
They actually have a slightly higher death rate but a smaller population.
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heard on the radio they had the lowest

Florida Reaches Lowest COVID Rate Per Capita Without Need For Senseless Mandates

https://www.outkick.com/florida-reac...less-mandates/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/co...eek/ar-AAPWgxS

they have had an 8 straight week drop

must be the latest week with stats
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Old 10-25-2021, 01:27 PM   #132
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Hmmm, Well, thanks for clarifying that. She'd have real potential with implants. Still I think I'd prefer to get the vaccine and play the field.
implants?

don't ruin it
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Florida’s COVID-19 deaths are still among the highest in the nation - Oct 14
https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/health...-in-the-nation

Still less than Texas however. States ranked by COVID-19 death rates - Oct. 25
https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...te-july-1.html

Texas
Deaths per 100,000: 0.6
Daily average deaths: 174.3

Florida
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Daily average deaths: 134.9
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They actually have a slightly higher death rate but a smaller population.

Whoops, I missed that. Thanks for the correction.
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Most of us don't know anyone who's died from the common cold.
Annual deaths in the US attributable to seasonal flu range from 20,000-60,000.

I would hope they are using the same methodology in tracking covid-19 deaths as they have been using for estimating seasonal flu deaths. I'm tired of hearing the "die with it versus die from it" argument which is unresolvable.

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-die-flu/

Question: Is the death toll from covid-19 higher because 1) it's more contagious 2) more lethal, or 3) both?
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Annual deaths in the US attributable to seasonal flu range from 20,000-60,000.

I would hope they are using the same methodology in tracking covid-19 deaths as they have been using for estimating seasonal flu deaths. I'm tired of hearing the "die with it versus die from it" argument which is unresolvable.

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-die-flu/

Question: Is the death toll from covid-19 higher because 1) it's more contagious 2) more lethal, or 3) both?
"Die with it versus die from it" may indeed be unresolvable. But you can look at excess deaths instead. How many people died in 2020 compared to previous years? And based on that, the number of people who died as a result of the COVID epidemic in 2020 was almost certainly greater than the official CDC count of COVID deaths.

Scroll down to the table in this paper,

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2778234

You'll see that the CDC attributed 345,323 deaths to COVID 19 in 2020. HOWEVER, look at the total number of deaths during 2020, in the first row. They were up by 503,976 from 2019. Compare to the increase in the number deaths from 2018 to 2019 (15,633) or from 2017 to 2018 (25,702).

Total deaths attributed to heart disease, Alzheimer disease, and diabetes in 2020 showed anomalous increases over past years. Perhaps some of these deaths should have been attributed to COVID.

As to whether it's more contagious or more lethal or both, COVID is definitely more lethal. I'm not sure whether it's more contagious, and that might depend on the particular strain or variant of flu or coronavirus.

One other comment, the common cold, which is often caused by coronaviruses, isn't normally lethal. Flu can be.
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