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04-02-2025, 06:42 PM
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That’s called price controls. Which don’t work not even in a state planned economy.
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He later said he didn't say that. I don't believe him.
He's taking no prisoners. According to someone on Kudlow, earthquake-ravaged Myanmar will pay 44%.
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04-02-2025, 07:28 PM
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Everyday trumpf proves he's a bigger idiot than the day before. He doesn't care what WE think.
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04-02-2025, 09:03 PM
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The average tariff on goods imported into the USA from China will be about 60%, according to a Bloomberg article, which is speculating China may cut off supplies of rare earth elements to the USA. Dumb Ass Trump should have thought of that and had his ducks in a row before he imposed the new tariffs. He already had 4 years to encourage development of rare earths but he didn't lift a finger. And now his solution is to take over Greenland. Dumb ass.
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04-02-2025, 09:22 PM
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Trump is playing a gambling game with other countries with these stupid ass tariffs and unless those countries fold, the American people are going to lose big time. Unfortunately for us, many of those countries do not have idiots in power like we do, and many will not fold and will subsequently retaliate now and call his bully bluff.
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04-02-2025, 09:58 PM
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So forcing industries back to the US and building strategic industries is a "lose". You get an economics degree like AOC?
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04-02-2025, 10:10 PM
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So forcing industries back to the US and building strategic industries is a "lose". You get an economics degree like AOC?
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The only way to get business to come back to America is to devalue the dollar on the world market. A trade war is not good for anyone, including Americans, and usually just moves money around in different ways.
Some parts of the economy will grow but to the detriment of other sectors and consumers overall.
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04-02-2025, 10:21 PM
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The only way to get business to come back to America is to devalue the dollar on the world market. A trade war is not good for anyone, including Americans, and usually just moves money around in different ways.
Some parts of the economy will grow but to the detriment of other sectors and consumers overall.
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and if it all evens out into basically fair trade? who wins? who loses?
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04-02-2025, 10:42 PM
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and if it all evens out into basically fair trade? who wins? who loses?
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That’s a relevant question. Who actually wins and loses during this trade war? I would say almost everyone will.
Actually that’s not true. The black market along the northern and southern border will probably explode.
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04-02-2025, 11:17 PM
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That’s a relevant question. Who actually wins and loses during this trade war? I would say almost everyone will.
Actually that’s not true. The black market along the northern and southern border will probably explode.
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with Lord Trump militarizing the border? not a chance.
there are no losers in fair trade.
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04-02-2025, 11:44 PM
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with Lord Trump militarizing the border? not a chance.
there are no losers in fair trade.
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You think so. The greater the tax the more incentive to try and evade it. I think these tariffs have just incentivized the existing cartels to branch out into other sectors.
If you are going to smuggle in a product to avoid one tax you might as well avoid other taxes as well. Like liquor taxes for instance. My guess is that truckloads of tequila will soon be coming over the border hidden in with other legitimate cargo.
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04-02-2025, 11:58 PM
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You think so. The greater the tax the more incentive to try and evade it. I think these tariffs have just incentivized the existing cartels to branch out into other sectors.
If you are going to smuggle in a product to avoid one tax you might as well avoid other taxes as well. Like liquor taxes for instance. My guess is that truckloads of tequila will soon be coming over the border hidden in with other legitimate cargo.
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lol you really think these tariffs will cause rampant smuggling? nonsense.
tell me .. do you think continued unfavorable trade by our "allies" is a good for America?
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04-03-2025, 12:09 AM
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You think so. The greater the tax the more incentive to try and evade it. I think these tariffs have just incentivized the existing cartels to branch out into other sectors.
If you are going to smuggle in a product to avoid one tax you might as well avoid other taxes as well. Like liquor taxes for instance. My guess is that truckloads of tequila will soon be coming over the border hidden in with other legitimate cargo.
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Txdot, DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS! And welcome back.
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04-03-2025, 05:28 AM
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The question in the title of this thred is stikll open. Pesident Trump may, in fact, be full of shit on the short term and long term efgfects of tarrifs on the economyh and how that will affect the midtrm elections or the races in 2028.
However, it is now becoming abundantly clear that then President Biden actually was incompetent to be head of state and commander in chief . . .clearly neither head or chief of anything. his is now being testified to by insider tell all books and in interviews from folks who were "in the room" with the president every day.
By comprison, the current president, while he may be wronmg about tis or that . . . is a genius.
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04-03-2025, 08:22 AM
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The basic question being avoided by the left is shouldn't our strategic goods be manufactured in the United States? If you think that we should rely on China for electronics and metals then you are a fool. If you believe that everything down to combat boots should be made in Dallas then how would you do it?
We have one shipyard for aircraft carriers and it takes a decade to build one. The Kaiser shipyard in Los Angeles could build a Liberty ship in eight days during World War II. A Liberty ship is hardly a modern ship 1100 feet long but I think the point is made. What happens if one of our carriers is seriously damaged or sunk? Remember the ship destroyed by fire pier side a few years ago? Do we put everything on hold for ten years or try to pull back a recently decommissioned ship...if some environmental democrat hasn't sunk it to make a reef somewhere. Amazing that the sea made reefs for millions of years before we came along.
Bottom line, we need our production back in this country.
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04-03-2025, 08:48 AM
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Txdot, DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS! And welcome back. 
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Pretty hard to do around here. Some are even protected.
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