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Old 10-18-2021, 08:55 PM   #106
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Don’t be silly. 3.5 Trillion or slightly less. Well spent money.
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Old 10-18-2021, 10:22 PM   #107
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Don’t be silly. 3.5 Trillion or slightly less. Well spent money.
American Rescue Act of 2021, which received no support from Republicans: $1.9 trillion
Proposed Infrastructure Bill, which is supported by a minority of Republicans: $1.2 trillion
Proposed Reconciliation Bill, which likely will receive no support from Republicans: $2 trillion (estimate)

Total: $5.1 trillion

And the reconciliation bill likely will end up costing a lot more than whatever the headline amount is, based on media reports.

Well spent money? The American Rescue Act stoked inflation and is part of the reason why we still have 5 million fewer people employed compared to 2019, at the same time that 11 million job positions are vacant. The waste in the infrastructure and reconciliation bills will be enormous. I hope Manchin gets his way and there's means testing. We don't need welfare for people like you and me.
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Old 10-18-2021, 11:23 PM   #108
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American Rescue Act didn’t stoke inflation on its on. It did can the flame which began with the monies approved by republicans during the Trump rescue plans. This was just more of the same and republicans and Trump wanted it passed during the Trump years and prior to the Georgia runoff. It wasn’t until Trump and the Georgia republicans lost that republicans were against the rescue plan.

The infrastructure bill is supported by republicans and not a minority of them. Congressional republicans voted against it because they didn’t want Biden to get a win. It’s politics not some kinda principled position. Even ones that voted against it will be touting how great it is to have roads and bridges.

The reconciliation budget at 2 billion is only slightly more than those unpaid for tax cuts the republicans passed. Why complain about that. And 5T is less than 8T so he’ll come in below Trump’s total.

I’ve no issue with means testing or some work requirements. I hope that’s included as well.
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Old 10-18-2021, 11:41 PM   #109
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American Rescue Act didn’t stoke inflation on its on. It did can the flame which began with the monies approved by republicans during the Trump rescue plans. This was just more of the same and republicans and Trump wanted it passed during the Trump years and prior to the Georgia runoff. It wasn’t until Trump and the Georgia republicans lost that republicans were against the rescue plan.

The infrastructure bill is supported by republicans and not a minority of them. Congressional republicans voted against it because they didn’t want Biden to get a win. It’s politics not some kinda principled position. Even ones that voted against it will be touting how great it is to have roads and bridges.

The reconciliation budget at 2 billion is only slightly more than those unpaid for tax cuts the republicans passed. Why complain about that. And 5T is less than 8T so he’ll come in below Trump’s total.

I’ve only issue with means testing or some work requirements. I hope that’s included as well.
Those monies approved by Republicans in 2020 were also approved by House Democrats. In fact, and hopefully WTF will see this and correct me if I'm wrong, spending bills originate in the House, which was controlled by Pelosi and other Democrats. At the end of Trump's term, McConnell and Congressional Republicans were trying to hold down the spending while Trump and Pelosi were throwing gasoline on the fire. Remember how Trump criticized McConnell and Republican Senators for only agreeing to hand out $600 to every man, woman and child around election time, instead of the $2,000 that he, Pelosi and Schumer wanted to spend. Which was quickly remedied by Biden and the Democrats with the American Rescue Act.

The Republican tax cuts will end up reducing government revenues by less than $1 trillion, because Democrats are going to terminate them shortly, and they won't run their course. The corporate tax cuts were long overdue. They helped improve the ability of American companies to compete internationally, and helped lower unemployment, hold down inflation, and boost hourly wages. Obama wanted to cut corporate taxes but never did, probably because he decided to put politics over what he thought was best for the country.

McConnell voted for the infrastructure bill, but still only a minority of Senate Republicans voted for it. They weren't being whipped. They were voting their conscience and what they thought was best for the country and their states, not what was best for the party. Your argument does make sense in the House though, to some extent, but still a majority of Republicans would likely have voted against the infrastructure bill IF they weren't being whipped and IF the progressives had allowed the bill to come to the floor for a vote.

We agree about means testing and work requirements.
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Old 10-19-2021, 07:39 AM   #110
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Democrats won the Georgia Senate runoffs............... and we're going to pay for it. Like about $5 trillion.
America is nicked every time a dimocrat is elected
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Old 10-19-2021, 07:54 AM   #111
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The only thing worse than Biden when it comes to spending, is Trump!

Nancy and company want to spend no matter who is in office.
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Old 10-19-2021, 08:27 AM   #112
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wtf and nm - are foolish in their support of teh wasteful, marxism imposing lunacy of teh DPST party spending .

It is ideology - not reality they respond to - So SAD!

It is a criminal assault on the freedoms of the People's of America
Led by a marxist, racist DPST nomenklatura who Hate America and its' Peoples.
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Old 10-19-2021, 08:31 AM   #113
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Cost zero ,,,idiocy ,,,Hmm
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Old 10-19-2021, 08:55 AM   #114
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RD - it is teh real Big Lie - of teh racist, marxist DPST party!!!!!


Purpose - to enslave Amerika to marxist poverty and suffering.
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