Alright, Tbone77494, You Asked For It

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by NewWave

But this industry has more of a problem of ungrateful or entitled attitudes than any other service industry I can think of. Obviously not all providers are like this, but I'd say a disproportionate number are compared to other businesses.

The outrage here by some has probably more to do with Karlie's behavior at her pricepoint. If you bought a Geo Metro and it sucked ass, it's hard to get angry. If you purchased a Ferrari, and it didn't drive as expected plus the dealership was apathetic, then you'd see a similar sense of disgust as this thread. I'm sure Karlie is a lovely doll to some, as evidenced by her WKs, but I think the outrage is to be expected.

this is an example of entitlement. .......

Very well said....


On a different note..... Karlie is much more mature (in years) then some allude to...... More than a few would peg her age out of the tweens..... Early thirties would be my guess having met her

[daddyo67]

THANKS AUSTIN

thanks for bringing Karlie to my attention! can't wait to get to Austin to have fun with her. I read all her reviews and then I read a lot of the dog pilers past post that piled on this girl. it's the same way in Dallas. the dog pilers pile on there shit when they haven't even seen the girl. I'll wager I'll have the time of my life about now.
Again: THANKS AUSTIN!!!

[sixxbach]

Originally Posted by Whispers

Very well said....


On a different note..... Karlie is much more mature (in years) then some allude to...... More than a few would peg her age out of the tweens..... Early thirties would be my guess having met her

Agreed. I have met her nonBCD and would say she is 30 to 33 at the oldest.....

Sixx

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by daddyo67

THANKS AUSTIN

thanks for bringing Karlie to my attention! can't wait to get to Austin to have fun with her. I read all her reviews and then I read a lot of the dog pilers past post that piled on this girl. it's the same way in Dallas. the dog pilers pile on there shit when they haven't even seen the girl. I'll wager I'll have the time of my life about now.
Again: THANKS AUSTIN!!!

Good for you...... If you like being nickle and dimed up to a HDH level by lady that misrepresents herself.. Have at it....

The board is about information......

And surely her business will need a boost and she should be trying to impress to overcome the marketing disaster she has caused.

[daddyo67]

Mr. Wisper the only disaster is in your mind. there are many many guys that don't post that frown on the negative dogpiling! Let's see, just over 4000 so far. Hey Karlie should give you a freebie

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by daddyo67

Mr. Wisper the only disaster is in your mind. there are many many guys that don't post that frown on the negative dogpiling! Let's see, just over 4000 so far. Hey Karlie should give you a freebie

I would have to pass on that. Just not attracted to women that old.....

She outed personal information and posted a PM from a client dude..... If you are cool with that you have issues.... personally I believe your just smart and capitalizing on her situation for some pussy points when you book with her.....

Go get your dick sucked if you want but keep your mouth shut while you are there because she proved to the community she isn't one to be trusted.

[daddyo67]

Ha Ha again your out to lunch with the shut up!

not going to argue, never seen a dogpiler turn in to a nice guy.

as far a Tbone, I feel for him but not going to go into that but he did get all that he ask for and a little more for good measure!

[Whispers]

Yeah.... Every guy asks to have his personal crap blasted to the board and his confidence betrayed.....

What a wuss you are man,.....

I hope you get some good ass kissing back as a result of embarrassing yourself here....

Your coming across as clueless as to what actually happened here as you attempt to get your karlie points....

Some back channel info for you dude.....

Even her best "clients" are never more than clients to her... She is as "business" as they come..... You get a good show for too much money but you'll never be left doubting it was a show....

[justabloke]

Hmm, let's compare to my experience with Meko this weekend. 1 ninth of the cost; ten times the service (within the limits of FBSM). One very delighted customer at $100, one very pissed off customer at $900. Sorry, but the maths alone tells a story. I think I'll stay 'down market' for now.

I think the thing that outraged me most, apart from the kiss 'n' tell, was the ridiculous upselling. I suspect a lot of readers of this thread feel the same way.

[fredloveshead]

Originally Posted by austinkboy

And what is it that I supposedly did that constitues throwing another guy under the bus? btw, you probably would already know this, but if it is between you and Karlie, I will gladly throw you under the bus (hopefully a big ass one).

i believe you admitted that you divulged BCD info to your ATF. i would expect nothing less from you or anyone else on this board, so don't take it personally. i would think that many guys routinely do this to each other to get preferential treatment from girls.

Originally Posted by austinkboy

I believe I have already covered in very direct statements what I was thinking. And no, I was not thinking "somebody" had to say it, I was thinking "I" had to say it.

it doesnt matter what you were thinking as this comment did not mention what you had or had not said in the public forum. you never called yourself out, and i believe you mitigated damage as best as you could and more than likely did not divulge all of what you and Karlie talked about in an open forum, nor do i really expect you to. however, it is pretty obvious that she read BCD info, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out who gave her that information. so, yeah, somebody had to call you a WK, because your actions clearly meet the definition of being a WK. if the facts dont make you a WK then what do you care that someone "junior" to your elevated status is calling you one?

Originally Posted by austinkboy

I assume that that the "someone" you are referring to is me. So, given your relatively newbie status on Eccie, let me explain that I do have over 30 reviews credited, and that entitles me to premium access, and it then follows that I get to see and read information in ROS. [SARCASM] Oh, silly me![/SARCASM] I do believe you are once again implying that I leaked ROS information to Karlie. Again, I have already, very directly addressed that question. So, unless you are calling me a lier, in which case, you can grow some balls and do it directly, my advice to you is STFU.

i guess you have a guilty conscience. it doesn't matter if your post count is higher than mine or you care to post every single encounter for pussy that you pay for, while i don't always. in fact i only post one every time my ROS access is up. i don't publicize every sexual conquest i have paid for. that's not exactly impressive in my opnion. also i simply don't have the time to post every single one. im sure many board members also don't post every single one. there is no requirement to, so while im happy you have the budget to pay for 30 hookers, im not sure that is something you or anyone else on here should brag about. not like you'd be bragging about that in public in your real life, i'd bet?

im sure guys like Whispers would have to be on his computer 24/7 to post every sexual encounter he has had with a stripper for say 50 bucks. geezus between fucking and typing that man would never get to sleep.

it appears to me that you are upset because someone not as "senior" as you are (in your mind) called you out. big deal, it shouldn't matter to you if its simply not the truth. other "senior" members called you out as well. yet i don't see you have the balls to attack them.

i don't have to tell you that you are a liar (not lier), nor did i. your own conscience will direct you as to whether or not you are. there are things that i (and many of us reading this) know, and things that we can prove. as i nor many others on here were not privy to your conversation with Karlie, we can obviously not prove anything. but we have made up our minds as to what most likely happened and what was the likely scenario for this information to have been divulged. if you did not divulge the information then so be it. but i do know in my mind that you and her are not to be trusted, but then again, to your credit, i dont think anyone on here is to be trusted either.

for what it's worth, i do think that many other guys would have done the same thing that you did. WK'ing occurs and if you are indeed a WK, you weren't the first, and you won't be the last.

now back to the discussion. politely and civilly.

[johnnieknox]

It's obvious this Karlie isn't a good choice, but who do you more experienced guys suggest in her price range that is actually worth it?

[austinkboy]

@fredlovessuckingdick, are you calling me a liar or not? Do you have any specifics? I can't tell from your ramblings...

Originally Posted by fredloveshead

i believe you admitted that you divulged BCD info to your ATF. i would expect nothing less from you or anyone else on this board, so don't take it personally. i would think that many guys routinely do this to each other to get preferential treatment from girls.

not sure where you think i admitted this... i specifically said I did NOT divulge any ROS. maybe my English is not so good, maybe you don't read lips. I am not sure again, but did you say that this entire Board divulges BCD info to their ATF's? And we do this to get preferential treatment? Are you speaking from experience? OK, name some names... who are these bastards and who are their ATFs. Count me in...Let's burn them all!! Why are you even a member?

it doesnt matter what you were thinking as this comment did not mention what you had or had not said in the public forum.

i believe you were the one first speculating on what I didn't say in a public forum. i was pointing out what that i had already specifically stated in a public forum what i was thinking.

i guess you have a guilty conscience. it doesn't matter if your post count is higher than mine or you care to post every single encounter for pussy that you pay for, while i don't always. in fact i only post one every time my ROS access is up.

I wasn't trying to impress you my review count. btw, i don't always write reviews every time i hop in the sack either. I was being somewhat tongue and cheek about being entitled to ROS information, and in case you didn't how this all worked, i was pointing out how you might earn premium access credits so that you too can share in some stimulating conversation with a full deck of cards. Quite frankly, looking at your reviews, we don't swim in the same pond.

im sure guys like Whispers would have to be on his computer 24/7 to post every sexual encounter he has had with a stripper for say 50 bucks. geezus between fucking and typing that man would never get to sleep.

btw, i don't think he sleeps. while we don't necessarily agree on the style of hobbying, i consider Whispers a good friend, and hopefully he considers me a friend... Wait...did he publicly say that he considered me a friend earlier in this thread? I can honestly say that he is pretty blunt and honest with me as to what he thinks, and i usually listen to what advice he has. I don't always agree and follow. Also, there was a time when it seemed like he was in fact on the computer 24/7. Lately, though he seems somewhat preoccupied with with his new secretary...most of us mere mortals who sleeps and can only muster up one or two pops a day might call the equivalent position my "ATF".

it appears to me that you are upset because someone not as "senior" as you are (in your mind) called you out. big deal, it shouldn't matter to you if its simply not the truth. other "senior" members called you out as well. yet i don't see you have the balls to attack them.

I don't think i was called out. There was some noise and barking going on that insinuated and beat around the bush. I believe it was me that called you out to provide specifics. Other senior members? Are you talking about Wyldebeast? Go back and reread... i called him out as well. It seems he didn't have any specifics either. Quoting Whispers' opinion is not proof. Why don't you try coming up with an original idea.

i don't have to tell you that you are a liar (not lier), nor did i. your own conscience will direct you as to whether or not you are. there are things that i (and many of us reading this) know, and things that we can prove. as i nor many others on here were not privy to your conversation with Karlie, we can obviously not prove anything. but we have made up our minds as to what most likely happened and what was the likely scenario for this information to have been divulged. if you did not divulge the information then so be it. but i do know in my mind that you and her are not to be trusted, but then again, to your credit, i dont think anyone on here is to be trusted either.

So, you are once again calling me a liar, but you won't man up and call me a liar. (Sorry, about prior spelling error...English is not my native tongue.) You have no proof of anything. Who is this "we" that have made up your minds of my guilt? You and Wyldebeast? The mods actions or lack thereof speak for itself, and I do believe there are posts, if not in support, and least in understanding of what I did, and near as I can tell, the consensus seems to be that I did nothing wrong.

for what it's worth, i do think that many other guys would have done the same thing that you did. WK'ing occurs and if you are indeed a WK, you weren't the first, and you won't be the last.

Ok, what is your definition of WK? First, I am not of the Caucasian persuasion. (ok bad joke) I have already said it before, but just for clarity... Karlie is my ATF. I alerted her to a negative review, but did NOT divulge ROS info. I did this because, as I would for any friend, and this one in particular, I care for her well being and reputation. Did I stake my reputation on the Board that I have earned to do this? Hell yes, and I will do it again. This reputation that I staked is only worth a lick if people that know me (senior members as you call them) believe what I say to be true. If that is what a WK is, then I am a WK... are you satisfied? If your definition includes breaking Board rules, then NO, I am not a WK.

now back to the discussion. politely and civilly.

I apologize to the other members here... I am generally polite and civil, but I find it difficult to maintain decorum when it is even implied that I am a lier...oops, I mean liar, considering I lie (down) almost every hobby appointment.

[googol^googol]

Originally Posted by Whispers

Even her best "clients" are never more than clients to her... She is as "business" as they come..... You get a good show for too much money but you'll never be left doubting it was a show....

You seem quite disenchanted that a woman would meet your physical desires but fail to conceal the financial aspects of the relationship.

Perhaps you can gain some perspective and wisdom about the "business" nature of the situation from the poster who uses this signature:

Originally Posted by Whispers

"The Only Relationship I'm interested in is one based on my Physical and your Financial Needs Darling!".....

"Some tend to forget that our time with them is a Hobby. Their time with us is a BUSINESS! Don't get caught up in the illusion."

[Damon Bradley]

After reading the more recent posts....


As the ECCIE turns. What a bunch of infants....



Go fuck some bitches and get over this crap. Really. Your taking this shit too seriously.

It's DRAMA. Every one of you. Just fucking let it go.


Sheesh.....

[Damon Bradley]

..... I had something to say about Karlie from the first time I met her. But i deleted all of this post.

So, I'll change it, and address another subject, about sweet innocent miss Karlie...

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Instead.... I will recount an incident, to which there are witnesses.....


The one where she was at a Whisper's dinner at Palacio, where she talked shit to my face, about my date, and the two other well know, and respected providers I arrived with, upon meeting me (not knowing the lady standing close by was my date, and soon to be GF, you old timers know who that was/is), then after finding out she was my date, tried to back track, and upon meeting her moments later, kissed her and my ass, knowing she had fucked up.

Bammm. Yes I said it. Oh no. I spoke unkind words by telling the truth.

Yep. That's how it happened. I immediately lost all respect for her from hearing how she spoke in a derogatory way about other providers.

Sorry to have to call her out so late in this thread, but it happened, it was childish and rude, and it's time someone else brought up other occurrences that show a lack of mature emotional character.



Karlie, you haven't chimed in once on this long MFer of a thread you started, not for lack of you watching it. C'mon. You know you're reading ALL of this. Thats what really gets to me about you, and the other "young ladies", that you think you have so much life experience and are SOOOO smart in stirring this shit up. When your 45, your going to laugh at yourself, hopefully, realizing how foolish you were, in thinking that men (and many of the more mature ladies) with so much more life experience weren't able to see through your silly youthful games. Most did, and just played along. You will realize this one day.

Is everyone here aware that if you go into your settings, and add someone as your contact, you can see if they are on ECCIE while you are on ECCIE? Almost every time I have logged in since this thread started, Karlie is online. I almost NEVER saw her in my online contacts before this thread was started. Just a little FYI. It's a great feature here.

For Christ sake, speak up!! YOU started this......