What do you consider to be high volume?

[VIP Mya Michelle]

Originally Posted by Still Looking

Hunter.... I can "PROVE" what I'm saying and perhaps we could make a little wager. I'm wrong I pay you TWO HOURS! You're wrong you meet TOYZ for BCD session TWO HOURS!

None of these ladies will post on here confirming what I have stated. But I know one in particular that has pictures of all her money laid out on a bed. I can give you no less than four others whom I have NOT met BCD that will confirm the numbers stated and then some.

NOTE: Some of the most successful providers making this money seldom if ever post anything but ads.

While I'm not checking condoms in the trash can many of us hobbyists have witnessed the leaning tower of condoms in the bathroom right before we haul ass out the door as we trip over the 30 some towels built up in that providers two day stay.

As like many of the hobbyist who shop in the 350-600 price range are not members of the boards and do not review. I will say the people who are making the most and spending the most are too busy/ or just don't care/ or have to be super duper discrete because they are rich and have too much to lose. But they are out there baby!

[Tiffani Jameson]

Originally Posted by VIP Mya Michelle

As like many of the hobbyist who shop in the 350-600 price range are not members of the boards and do not review. I will say the people who are making the most and spending the most are too busy/ or just don't care/ or have to be super duper discrete because they are rich and have too much to lose. But they are out there baby!

Let's not get too hasty with putting clients in a box just like SL did the ladies. SL is pretty well off, and he could see any lady he chooses. But he shops in a certain price range normally because of his own feelings of what we're worth. When he can justify it in his mind that she's worth it, he's done a little better. You'd never know who was rich. They say money talks, but wealth whispers.

I've never discounted where I meet good clients, or tried to count their money. The wealth of a client has never been synonymous with good, nor is it an indicator of generosity. As providers, all we can do is actually be worth our rates.

I don't think review culture is synonymous with socioeconomic status. But it is synonymous with class, which is not synonymous with socioeconomic status.

You can definitely tell a lot about a man by the way he reviews a lady. Or if he chooses to review at all.

[Toyz]

Damn Tif...you gave me a hard on just reading that. Intelligence is sexy.

[fun2come]

Even my Babel Fish is turned on and wants some more of this!!!

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

All of this is subjective. You're probably speaking from several ladies' experience. Even Miss Hunter is just speaking from her OWN experience.

There are exceptions to all of these. I know a couple of ladies in the high end of things because of their Modus Operandi, that are FULL time 3-4 guys a day, every day at 2hrs/1K. 10 reviews in one month says volumes. And one is usually a dinner date. And you'd be surprised that some have NEVER done an overnight, or been flown anywhere. And these ladies aren't really as 'selective' as they seem. Not every guy that can afford to pay those rates are deservant clients. You have asshats in every tax bracket.

What Miss Hunter says about these ladies is the norm. Ladies that I know who have careers or businesses usually have 3 appointments a week, because there's no time for anything else. I know ladies who have a 4 Hour Minimums at 2K+ that maybe work a couple of times a month.

Now I'm speaking from personal experience. Ladies like myself in the 300-500 range, who has had a full time job for their ENTIRE career as a Companion, don't really advertise on a steady basis because they don't have the time for a consistent flow of new business, and can be as selective as they come. They just choose not to jack up their rates so they don't price themselves out of the market. I turn more 1-2 hour clients into dinner date/Clock-free clients because my rates aren't outrageous on the multi-hour end. Last year, I was out of town on average 2 weekends out of the month. While I rarely post ads on this board, I tend to meet the lurker who doesn't feel comfortable jumping into conversations, but still likes to do their research.

Ladies that are full time in this price range that are consistent in their advertising probably do a lot better. Depending on their home market, these ladies have to consistently tour in order to meet goals.

Then there are ladies at 150-250/hr that have COMPLETE dry spells. You think they'd be the busiest, but there's so much competition at this level that if you don't post an ad, you're out of the loop or they think you're not working. That's why it's essential that these girls cater to hobbyists for the reviews.

Again, contemplating how many guys a girl sees can't be measured by her rates. As long as you can't see the physical signs on her person, no dried cum in her hair, condom taste during DATY, hair still wet from her last shower, makeup still running from the last DTBBJ, stopping you because of soreness, you should be good.

Excellent point TJ. The ladies I received intel from after thinking about it are 100% full time escorts. None of them have jobs in the real world. Even the ones who are able to get good paying jobs find themselves in a difficult position trying leave because of the amount of money they make by escorting.

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by VIP Mya Michelle

You are SOOO wrong Still-Looking(no offense at all I like your posts and you are very informative). I have 2.5 years of precise records and I will say this about my own personal research from my own records.

I make double what I used to make at 150/hh 250/hr with half the appointments, sometimes 1/3 of the appointments I get at 350/400 hr. My take from my time so far is the goal is to have higher rates,more multi-hour appointments (which seems to come naturally with higher rates) and less clients. That is my Victory Goal now. I see in a good week 4-5 appointments average week 2-3 and I barely ever get more than one appointment a day.

I am finding it more and more to my liking to not have to service half of DFW to make a good living lol.


Combine that with my incall being my Apt, I make 100% profit, with no over head costs. I always love to say "I'm all about 100% Profit!!"

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TJ brought up an interesting point which gives a lot of credibility to Hunters out look. If a provider works a part time or full time job and has that income she obviously doesn't need or have time to work the same hours as full time escorts. Therefore the amount of appointments might be drastically less.

Off hand as I type this I can think of FIVE providers that get over a 100 PM'S, emails and P411 requests "A DAY". Let's not forget SL has helped many a young lady set up their accounts. I've seen it with my own eyes. It's really very simple. If your young, hot and have an open menu your going to get a SHIT POT OF BUSINESS! More than you can handle. The more you charge the less business you get which stands to reason. There are TONS of guys out there willing to pay $300-$500 for an hour for that caliber of lady.

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by VIP Mya Michelle

As like many of the hobbyist who shop in the 350-600 price range are not members of the boards and do not review. I will say the people who are making the most and spending the most are too busy/ or just don't care/ or have to be super duper discrete because they are rich and have too much to lose. But they are out there baby!

Your very right they are in fact out there. There is also guys right here that can afford what ever they wish and many never post or review. Tons of them PM me asking about providers on a regular basis.

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

Let's not get too hasty with putting clients in a box just like SL did the ladies. SL is pretty well off, and he could see any lady he chooses. But he shops in a certain price range normally because of his own feelings of what we're worth. When he can justify it in his mind that she's worth it, he's done a little better. You'd never know who was rich. They say money talks, but wealth whispers.

I've never discounted where I meet good clients, or tried to count their money. The wealth of a client has never been synonymous with good, nor is it an indicator of generosity. As providers, all we can do is actually be worth our rates.

I don't think review culture is synonymous with socioeconomic status. But it is synonymous with class, which is not synonymous with socioeconomic status.

You can definitely tell a lot about a man by the way he reviews a lady. Or if he chooses to review at all.

Now TJ as a matter of being fair I was painting in broad strokes. The rules, numbers and facts are NOT etched in stone. But once again, I can assure you if you are "Young", "Hot", "With An Open Menu" your going to get as much business as you want or can handle. If your a WTF or butt ugly chick posting on BP in Midland / Odessa chances are good you might not do as well. But then I'm only speculating because I don't have a clue how those chicks do.

Now I have been to Las Vegas and had opportunities to see some very high end ladies ranging in the $1,000 per hour range. I can honestly say I was not impressed. My hobby experiences have been much better with ladies at $250-$500 per hour. Example: Shanna Price who use to be an ECCIE provider:

http://www.shannaprice.net/

She is currently $500 per hour and when I met her she was $400. Let me tell you she will rock your world and they don't come any hotter than this young lady. "Personally" she blows the doors off the $1,000 per hour ladies. I'm pretty sure she has as much business as she can handle.

And don't judge me because I review providers. That's part of being a full time Man Whore.

[VIP Mya Michelle]

Well SL we need to talk about what I am doing wrong because I am young, hot, and work very very hard 110% of the time and I have never even began to have more than even 5-7 inquiries in a day and that was probably one day. I do this full time have been trying to figure out how to master it how to become Soooo popular and everyone raves about you. Before I discovered eccie it wasn't happening, when I first discovered eccie it wasn't happening, welcome wagon it wasn't happening, been around 2 years so far and still isn't happening in no way close to the scale of numbers you are reporting.


So this just brings me to wonder if it is because black women just aren't as desirable in Texas, this is the only state I have escorted in, and frankly Dallas is as far as I have been. I am however anxious to get out of the south so I can spread my wings a bit wider. If I want to become one of the escorts who brings in 10k+ a month and gets 100 (heck i would be happy with 10) inquiries a week. where should I move to where hot young fit black women are in demand like the young hot white and latina pictures you posted?

[Little Monster]

Originally Posted by VIP Mya Michelle

Well SL we need to talk about what I am doing wrong because I am young, hot, and work very very hard 110% of the time and I have never even began to have more than even 5-7 inquiries in a day and that was probably one day. I do this full time have been trying to figure out how to master it how to become Soooo popular and everyone raves about you. Before I discovered eccie it wasn't happening, when I first discovered eccie it wasn't happening, welcome wagon it wasn't happening, been around 2 years so far and still isn't happening in no way close to the scale of numbers you are reporting.


So this just brings me to wonder if it is because black women just aren't as desirable in Texas, this is the only state I have escorted in, and frankly Dallas is as far as I have been. I am however anxious to get out of the south so I can spread my wings a bit wider. If I want to become one of the escorts who brings in 10k+ a month and gets 100 (heck i would be happy with 10) inquiries a week. where should I move to where hot young fit black women are in demand like the young hot white and latina pictures you posted?

Try Europe

[HunterGrace]

[QUOTE=VIP Mya Michelle;1055068022]Well SL we need to talk about what I am doing wrong because I am young, hot, and work very very hard 110% of the time and I have never even began to have more than even 5-7 inquiries in a day and that was probably one day. I do this full time have been trying to figure out how to master it how to become Soooo popular and everyone raves about you. Before I discovered eccie it wasn't happening, when I first discovered eccie it wasn't happening, welcome wagon it wasn't happening, been around 2 years so far and still isn't happening in no way close to the scale of numbers you are reporting.
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You've done nothing wrong.

Please read my response to SL and then, go post an ad on Eros if you want more phone calls. Black women are amazing and guys love you.

[Tiffani Jameson]

Originally Posted by Still Looking

Now TJ as a matter of being fair I was painting in broad strokes. The rules, numbers and facts are NOT etched in stone. But once again, I can assure you if you are "Young", "Hot", "With An Open Menu" your going to get as much business as you want or can handle. If your a WTF or butt ugly chick posting on BP in Midland / Odessa chances are good you might not do as well. But then I'm only speculating because I don't have a clue how those chicks do.

Now I have been to Las Vegas and had opportunities to see some very high end ladies ranging in the $1,000 per hour range. I can honestly say I was not impressed. My hobby experiences have been much better with ladies at $250-$500 per hour. Example: Shanna Price who use to be an ECCIE provider:

http://www.shannaprice.net/

She is currently $500 per hour and when I met her she was $400. Let me tell you she will rock your world and they don't come any hotter than this young lady. "Personally" she blows the doors off the $1,000 per hour ladies. I'm pretty sure she has as much business as she can handle.

And don't judge me because I review providers. That's part of being a full time Man Whore.

I remember Shanna. And I don't judge you, SL.
You never paint with broad strokes, but you should know that there are more than a few that escape your categorizations. Other than that, I was actually defending you.

I'm not surprised that you found some duds on the higher end of things. A lot of those women wouldn't touch the average client for any amount of money. They don't screen for chemistry because their attitude is no better than the average BP girl. At that rate, they're trying to make every appointment happen.

Women like to think that they're escaping cheapo's at certain rates, and that higher rates mean richer clients, but they can't be further from the truth. But it's not cheapo's they need to worry about, it's about how she's representing her value. Guys that don't value women beyond a certain price range are quick to tell a woman that she'll lose business if she raises her rates, but if her value is high, she'll see an increase.

And in this business, you don't have to be young to get a shit load of business. Just hot. There were people waiting on me to raise my rates when I did.

Getting back to the topic, some of us are not all about the money. The balance is way more important. That's 'old ho mentality' to quantify a woman by how much she earns in this business. They figure you better be financially compensated for the emotional damage you suffer being a companion. I prefer to work in a way that I still have hope for the future, and my opinion of men has not been changed.

I could go full time, but with my salary, this way is much easier. Plus, my child gets the normalcy she deserves. I don't have to lie to her about what I do for a living, there's no odd phone conversations about locations and rates, and when mommy gets dressed up to go out, it's no surprise that she has a date. Men hit on her all the time. There's nothing wrong with indulging a gentleman for dinner and a nightcap.

The problem with being in this life is that the women don't realize that they have no one to impress but themselves. Who they see and how often is no ones business. The only issue that I have with review culture is that it is not conducive to discretion. But I actually believe that reviews are valuable. But I think a lady has control over who reviews her by screening for chemistry.

[VIP Mya Michelle]

Originally Posted by HunterGrace

You've done nothing wrong.

Please read my response to SL and then, go post an ad on Eros if you want more phone calls. Black women are amazing and guys love you.

I do post on Eros, and it has gotten me some great clients. I am not saying I am not getting appointments I am doing just fine as far as making enough money. I am just talking about the Fame of it all, the reviews, the mentions followed by many chiming in to agree. I mean I see it as a compliment to the woman when she has men reviewing her every chance they get, dropping her name at every mention of who is the best. If she already has 100 reviews she must be doing something pretty special to make them want to keep writing to the point they have 200+ 300+ 400+ ya know. At the same time I know they are not doing anything THAT much different than I am capable of.

I know that there are wonderful gentlemen out there who adore aa ladies. I have had the privledge of being flown out multiple times just for a weekend, and I have been able to save enough money to get cosmetic surgery and not work for a month and half after that to recover.

I guess the thing I want to conquer is the fame of it all. How do some ladies rise to everyones top vouch for in public lists lol. But honestly in tx threads you rarely see aa womens names come up unless someone specifically asks about aa providers. Other wise if you just say who is the hottest, everyone lists all white women and Latinas. I notice on TER there are aa women who have 100+ reviews and aren't in the 100-200 price range.

I know there is nothing I can do about it, but I would love to know where aa women are praised and high reviewed and bragged on.

[VIP Mya Michelle]

Originally Posted by Little Monster

Try Europe

Ya know I actually hear that America is pretty much the most tolerant nation of them all. I wouldn't want to live anywhere but America.

[fun2come]

I wouldn't want to live anywhere but America either (at least at this point in my life), BUT NOT because it is the MOST tolerant nation of them all
NOR because it has the best Hobby environment - last I checked it was still Verboten, while other countries have it quite legalized.