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Old 11-11-2012, 02:41 PM   #106
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Yes. Christie is a Republican and he praised Obaminable. What's your point, BT.
LL, who was the last Democratic nominee for President that you supported? Truman in '48?
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Impossible. Truman was against cocksuckers.
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:36 PM   #108
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:16 PM   #114
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His "entitlements" are probably bullet proof as well, since no self-respecting "middle-class taxpayer" is gonna allow the lights to be turned out on the $45 million retirement home in Hawaii ... not to mention allow HIS security personnel to be reduced for budget reasons.
Speaking of dumb fucks, you do not actually believe that Obama has a 45 million dollar retirement home do you? Or that he was about to buy one? Is this your 'source'? This is like a BigFoot sighting. People that believe this kind of crap are Republicians. So which is it LL? You a Repub or a Dem?




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Are Obama insiders secretly making retirement plans for the Obamas with the expectation the president will lose his bid for re-election inVery quietly, Obama’s chief financier, Penny Pritzker, has entered the Hawaii housing market to buy a retirement home for the president and his family that will be available not in 2016, but in January 2013, according to a confidential source within Pritzker’s Chicago organization
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Furthermore, removing himself from the line of fire and responsibility in the chain of command from this point forward may well save his "career" and his "retirement."
What retirement are you talking about?

He retired from the military in 2011.

My guess is that his retirement pay is above 100k.

He will wind up doing some consulting and make ten times more than that.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:37 PM   #116
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Most of you have no clue as to Patraeus. In the military and with those who follow the military Patraeus was the most accomplished general of our generation and probably since WWII. He reshaped the way the armed forces fought wars, especially the type of war you find in Iraq and Afgahn. Iraq would have turned out a whole lot worse if not for him.

He had to leave the CIA because in the world of spies vs spies you look for any edge and one of the biggest is infidelity so he had to leave and did so. I suspect he will still be consulting behind the scenes. Once in the CIA you never really leave.
Dude you're all wrong about this.

First of all he's very controversial within the military, and is very disliked by his peers for many reasons.

He's a political officer who curried favor with the boys in the NSC, who latched onto his silly writings as a way out of the fiasco they'd created.

His counter-insurgency theories are wacked, and he doesn't understand the first thing about Vietnam or any of the cases he uses in his book. He's a phoney technocratic bureaucratic wimp. He's short, skinny, un-athletic, introverted, and uses the wrong cologne.

To say he's credited for changing "the way we fight wars" is ridiculous because each war is totally different and requires a different strategy, etc. Counter-insurgency is a very old set of principles going back to the 1950s, and for him to claim any new doctrine is totally stupid.

Furthermore the reason why the "surge" made for an improvement had nothing to do with counter-insurgency. It had only to do with the US surrendering to the Sunnis and forming a subordinate relationship to them because the US lost in the field. Call it what you want but the US lost to the Sunnis, and the US surrendered to them.

As totally misinformed as that statement is your other statement that his infidelity relates to the world of "spy vs. spy" is even more idiotic because the Director of Central Intelligence isn't a target of anyone for blackmail or anything else like agents or case officers are any more than the National Security Advisor is.

The DCI isn't a "spy," he's a bureaucrat.

And that shows how much you know, or don't know, about the miliary or the intel world.
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All of you who believe he is resigning to save Obama line up under the sign that says Dumb fucks
Can't they read?


Have any of you read how this went down? Is everything a CT to you righties? It is in the papers and it is not to hard to understand. This has nothing to do with Libya. But you tin foil hat folks will never use logic when it comes to the opposition. "The polls show Romney losing!" "The Polls must be in the tank for Obama!"

Jeez...maybe the General will cool his heels in Obama's 45 million dollar retirement home. Or maybe he will join a radical muslim gay terrorist group
that kills Ambassadors and then butt fucks them. I am of the mind that if you actually believe all that shit, you might just be a dumb fuck.
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Your post almost seems overly personal. When you attack his ideas and accomplishments based upon "He's short, skinny, un-athletic, introverted, and uses the wrong cologne." that says far more about you than it does about him.

All 4-stars are political creatures or they would not have gotten that far. Most of them are liked and disliked but some of their peers. He is no different. The fact that he was not necessarily one of Gen Clapper's proteges may not have helped him, but didn't seem to seriously hurt him. A poor choice of mistress seems to have been his biggest problem.

And counter-insurgency, like most theories, evolves. To say it goes "back to the 1950s" short changes it by a few millenia, but obviously HOW it is implemented in the era of intercepted satelite feeds and IEDs is different than Viet Nam, the US Revolution, or Sun Tsu.

I am afraid your knowledge of the IC is somewhat lacking as well.


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Dude you're all wrong about this.

First of all he's very controversial within the military, and is very disliked by his peers for many reasons.

He's a political officer who curried favor with the boys in the NSC, who latched onto his silly writings as a way out of the fiasco they'd created.

His counter-insurgency theories are wacked, and he doesn't understand the first thing about Vietnam or any of the cases he uses in his book. He's a phoney technocratic bureaucratic wimp. He's short, skinny, un-athletic, introverted, and uses the wrong cologne.

To say he's credited for changing "the way we fight wars" is ridiculous because each war is totally different and requires a different strategy, etc. Counter-insurgency is a very old set of principles going back to the 1950s, and for him to claim any new doctrine is totally stupid.

Furthermore the reason why the "surge" made for an improvement had nothing to do with counter-insurgency. It had only to do with the US surrendering to the Sunnis and forming a subordinate relationship to them because the US lost in the field. Call it what you want but the US lost to the Sunnis, and the US surrendered to them.

As totally misinformed as that statement is your other statement that his infidelity relates to the world of "spy vs. spy" is even more idiotic because the Director of Central Intelligence isn't a target of anyone for blackmail or anything else like agents or case officers are any more than the National Security Advisor is.

The DCI isn't a "spy," he's a bureaucrat.

And that shows how much you know, or don't know, about the miliary or the intel world.
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