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Old 08-04-2016, 11:29 AM   #106
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The impeachment process is not a criminal or civil trial. The impeachment process merely determines whether a sitting president will or will not be removed from office.
Exactly... this is why MT Pockface is disingenuous when he equates acquittal with not guilty. The Democrats all knew Slick Willy was guilty as hell of lying under oath but for political reasons they wouldn't convict him. And by not convicting him, they defined deviancy down and lowered the bar for what we as Americans deem acceptable behavior by our Presidents.

An impeachment vote is 100% political. There is no judge issuing instructions to a jury.
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Old 08-04-2016, 02:52 PM   #107
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The Dems knew he did not break a law and the Rep's mostly voted guilty because he was a Dem. This was payback for Nixon. Also it helped them win the next election. We both know a Republican can not win on merit, they only win by slandering.
I just gave you one democrat who knew that he broke the law but she voted to not impeach. So you're wrong or a liar. Take your pick.

Every single democrat in the Senate voted not guilty on both counts brought before them. Every single one! Now that is a partisan vote and nothing was going to make them do the right thing. Now the republicans voted 45 on the perjury charge (which really is a crime and we all saw him do it) and 50 on the obstruction charge. So it looks like that only the GOP had an open mind when it came to the trial and not the dems.

FYI, the GOP won the next election. Wasn't this payback for Johnson since Nixon was never impeached?

Also, being found guilty does not require removal from office. That is the penalty portion. It is understood that if you find a president guilty of some crime then he probably will have to be removed but it is not automatic. The senate will have to figure out what to use as a penalty if there is a conviction.
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