More Evidence Emerges Confirming Covid Lab-Leak Theory, But Corporate Media Stay Silent

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Which is NOT to say they didn't take the COVID Vaxx jab... it's just that they didn't get the 2nd jab and die after 2 weeks. So if they took the first or 2nd shot, died within 2 weeks, they are classified as unvaccinated.

Statistical bullshit. COVID Never had a high mortality rate... so just because you took the jab and didn't die doesn't mean that your survival can be attributed to the jab. I took none, got COVID and didn't die. That can ONLY be attributable to the jab right? in fact more people DIDN'T take the jab and didn't die than took the jab and didn't die.

Let's define fully vaccinated.

A person is fully vaccinated if he/she got either both shots of the Moderna or Pfizer two shot M-RNA vaccine or got the one shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine. If you are not fully vaccinated then you are essentially unvaccinated. If that makes you feel better I will replace the words "were unvaccinated" with "were not fully vaccinated". The fact is there were very few break through deaths. A fully vaccinated person got infected with SARS_CoV2 virus and still died from or with CoVid.

What is your definition of a high mortality rate? Infection from SARS_COV2 virus kills 10X more people than Influenza_A. In the USA Influenza_A kills up to 40,000 people per year. In 2020, Trumps last year in office (when there was no vaccine) 400,000 plus people died from or with SARS_CoV2 infection.

If you didn't take the shot and you got infected with SARS_CoV2 virus and you survived, no it's not attributed to the JAB. You were able to make the antibody without help from the M-RNA or J&J vaccine.

If you were fully vaccinated before you got infected with SARS_CoV2 virus then the antibody is going to be present in your system before you even got infected from the actual SARS_CoV2 virus. In this case the jab would get the credit for your survival.

According to the link below 70% of the USA population(230 million people) were fully vaccinated. Therefore, how can you say with a straight face that more unvaccinated people got infected and survived then fully vaccinated people?

What you stated is not factual!

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/...racker-states/

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

Let's define fully vaccinated.

A person is fully vaccinated if he/she got either both shots of the Moderna or Pfizer two shot M-RNA vaccine or got the one shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

Nope you're wrong. That's NOT the complete definition of vaccinated. Try again.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

then once again explain the higher death count under Biden WITH THE VAX




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That's an easy one. SARS_CoV2 virus hit the USA in Trump's last year in office. According to the CDC approx 400,000 plus people died from or with SARS_CoV2 infection (CoVid) in Trumps last year about 12 months of time. The vaccines had not rolled out yet. Thus, no one was fully vaccinated.

When Biden takes over in Jan 2021 the vaccine starts to get rolled out to the public by Feb/March time frame. I didn't get my Pfizer shots (the first one) until last week in April.

According to the link below there 270 million people who were fully vaccinated. Which means there are 60 million unvaccinated people for a total of 330 million people. There are only 1.1 million deaths total from SARS_CoV2 infection.

There were more CoVid deaths under Biden because he is in office for a longer period of time as the virus mutates and new strains becomes the dominant strain. The deaths are not from Fully vaccinated people. There were very few break through deaths ( A fully vaccincated person gets infected with SARS_CoV2 and dies).
Your statement "More people died under Biden with the VAX") is not a true statement. Under Biden you still had 60 million unvaccinated people. The 550,000 that died under Biden were mostly unvaccinated people.

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/...19-spread-map/


https://usafacts.org/visualizations/...racker-states/

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Nope you're wrong. That's NOT the complete definition of vaccinated. Try again.

The term is "Fully Vaccinated". Look at the link again. At top of the link if you only had one shot of the Moderna or Pfizer vaccines that is considered incomplete.

(Look at the text by the little pink square near the top).


https://usafacts.org/visualizations/...racker-states/

[ICU 812]

I had one dose of the4 Salk vaccine for Polio.

Measles, mumps, rubeola, peruses, smallpox cholera . .and other serius diseases . . . .all are a one shot true vaccines that protects one from infection or becoming an infectious carrier (a disease vector).

If Covid and similar alphabet illnesses are to become the scourge of mankind, they will have to come up with something more effective than what is currently available.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

If Covid and similar alphabet illnesses are to become the scourge of mankind, they will have to come up with something more effective than what is currently available.

Moderna and Pfizer could make a traditional vaccine for the SARS_CoV2 virus. This is a slower process and would take more time and cost more money. The virus has to be grown, then weakened before it goes into your arm. Big Pharma likes the M-RNA approach becasuse the product can be scaled quicker.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Because the Chinese, Fauci and the Democratic Party designed the virus so vaccines won't work.

Just kidding.

Explain why Yale and University of North Carolina researchers estimate that biannual boosting decreases the probability of getting COVID, the disease, to one out of 10 over a six year period, compared to nine out of 10 for people who don't get any boosters. Annual vaccination reduces their estimated probability of infection to 3 out of 10 over six years.

https://ysph.yale.edu/news-article/a...9-study-shows/

I've gotten all the shots recommended by the CDC, six total, and I haven't gotten COVID. Everyone who's posted here that he's had COVID hasn't had all the shots.

Say your doctor says you're probably going to have a heart attack if you don't exercise and change your diet. So you go to the gym once a week and add a serving of veggies a day to your diet. Yeah, that will help. But not as much as exercising every day and eating healthy at every meal.

Six shots in close succession to prevent a disease with barely a 1% mortality rate? That is absolutely amazing.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Six shots in close succession to prevent a disease with barely a 1% mortality rate? That is absolutely amazing.

I had my first 2 shots in January 2001. Booster in late 2001, Booster in July 2022. Will be getting booster soon.

So that's 5 shots in 3 years. Not close succession in my opinion.

You are right about the 1% mortality rate but there's also the fact that the Covid vaccine will make it more difficult to catch Covid, will reduce the effects of Covid if yo do catch it, and if you do catch Covid the vaccine will greatly reduce the risk of long Covid.

Right now I have a cold and it's bothering me much more than the 2 cases of Covid I've had.


https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ng-covid-risk/

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I had my first 2 shots in January 2001. Booster in late 2001, Booster in July 2022. Will be getting booster soon.

So that's 5 shots in 3 years. Not close succession in my opinion.

You are right about the 1% mortality rate but there's also the fact that the Covid vaccine will make it more difficult to catch Covid, will reduce the effects of Covid if yo do catch it, and if you do catch Covid the vaccine will greatly reduce the risk of long Covid.

Right now I have a cold and it's bothering me much more than the 2 cases of Covid I've had.


https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ng-covid-risk/

I think you should recheck your dates on that.

[eyecu2]

comparing CV19 to say chicken pox etc., is that we immunize against that with the majority of kids today by them reaching a certain age, but the disease still has a strong link to create disease even after immunization. Later we call it shingles, and it's far more serious in repercussion.

I bring this up, since the disease is still around, as is CV19 or it's mutations, and we still immunize against it, despite it being present, and the reason why is we want to mitigate the serious effects of what Shingles is like for adults who manifest the disease. Hell it is not only painful, but can leave someone with nerve pain or blindness if not treated.

So when we have a disease like Covid that still is around despite any vaccinations- similar to shingles / herpes virus, we still vaccinate to mitigate the negative results of contraction, even later as adults. FYI- I got the shingles vaxx, (and it burns like a mother fucker,) and it's two doses.

I got it cause I know 3 ppl who are in 50's 60's that got shingles, and that pain is fucking horrible and lasts weeks, months, and sometimes doesn't go away.

Not trying to derail the thread, but addressing the vaccine question as to why we do them if you can already or still catch the disease despite vaccination really.

Now as far as the lab leak goes, I've yet to see / read more details other than, because of the location of the first reported occurrence of the disease and the the lab location being so close in proximity. That seems more than logical to consider it being result of a release from that lab, but we'll need to dig in deeper to know for certain.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Now as far as the lab leak goes, I've yet to see / read more details other than, because of the location of the first reported occurrence of the disease and the the lab location being so close in proximity. That seems more than logical to consider it being result of a release from that lab, but we'll need to dig in deeper to know for certain.

Go back and read my link in post #104. I reposted it just for you. The evidence is a lot stronger than the lab being in close proximity to the first outbreaks. And that article was written 2-1/2 years ago, so the evidence (both scientific and circumstantial) may be even more compelling today.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I had my first 2 shots in January 2001. Booster in late 2001, Booster in July 2022. Will be getting booster soon.

So that's 5 shots in 3 years. Not close succession in my opinion.

You are right about the 1% mortality rate but there's also the fact that the Covid vaccine will make it more difficult to catch Covid, will reduce the effects of Covid if yo do catch it, and if you do catch Covid the vaccine will greatly reduce the risk of long Covid.

Right now I have a cold and it's bothering me much more than the 2 cases of Covid I've had.


https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ng-covid-risk/

SpeedRacer, When did you come down with COVID?

Thanks for the link, interesting. They probably weren't working with a huge amount of data, and determining whether someone has long COVID must be somewhat subjective. But it's interesting that the protection among health care workers didn't increase that much when you go from 2 doses to 3 doses.

I'll probably get another booster with the flu vaccine next year unless the CDC comes out with advice contrary to that. I'm not sure biannual boosters make sense, even though you'd think that based on my last link.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Six shots in close succession to prevent a disease with barely a 1% mortality rate? That is absolutely amazing.

At my age, the probability of dying from a COVID infection was never close to 1%. And it was much, much lower by the time I got the fifth and sixth shots. I don't like getting sick. And long COVID is a risk. I get the flu vaccine every year, and adding an annual COVID vaccine at the same time isn't a bother.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Go back and read the link in post #104. I reposted it just for you. The evidence is a lot stronger than the lab being in close proximity to the first outbreaks. And that article was written 2-1/2 years ago, so the evidence (both scientific and circumstantial) may be even more compelling today.

One piece of evidence that came out afterwards was that two or three researchers at the Wuhan laboratory were treated at a clinic for a flu like illness in November, 2019. Still I don't believe this is settled. You read the Wade article or the statistical piece written by the breast doctor and the physicist (one of your old links) and you'd think it is. But there are some very smart people who believe there wasn't a lab leak and others, equally smart and informed, who believe there was. Even U.S. government agencies are divided in their positions.

A fairly recent development, research by Florence Debarre, points towards an animal origin, not a lab leak,

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-raccoon-dogs/

Bizarrely, the Chinese tried to cover up her research, by jerking the data she used from a public virology database. The reason supposedly is that the Chinese claim that COVID did not originate in a wet market in China, or even in China, and her research could refute that claim.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Tiny

At my age, the probability of dying from a COVID infection was never close to 1%. And it was much, much lower by the time I got the fifth and sixth shots. I don't like getting sick. And long COVID is a risk. I get the flu vaccine every year, and adding an annual COVID vaccine at the same time isn't a bother.

The way most everyone talks about Covid and the Vaccine and Boosters. I have absolutely no idea what the hell is keeping me alive.