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[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

I f they ever make a movie about WELSHING CHIMPS that operate gloryholes and pick dingle berries for a living In KansASS, they YOU will have THE starring role EKIM !

You are already starring as woomby's bitch gay rey. Shame he can't write a review.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by eatfibo

I'm not sure exactly what they have been charged with.

Originally Posted by eatfibo

...the crime is lying to people in order to get them to buy your stock.

Gee whiz, fidoflake, make up your mind. Either you know or you don't know. Did you actually look it up? You might have a smidgen of credibility here if you weren't too lazy to post a damn link. Are you afraid we might nit-pick?

Did you read Rivkin and Grossman? Still wanna pretend it's "not an attack on free speech"?

[IIFFOFRDB]

The beginning of the Gl0bal Warming farce...

http://theforgottenstreet.com/Enron-...-of-Kyoto.html

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Tuesday, April 12th, 2016
Enron: The Godfather of Kyoto

As regular readers of The Forgotten Street know, for some time I have been writing about global warming as the greatest hoax in human history. I’ve preached on and on that the whole issue revolves around money and power, and who is going to claim it.

While Al Gore and others continue to ratchet up the hysteria, and the U.N. issues another gloomy report calling for immediate action, it’s become more clear that a rising tide of prominent scientists are questioning the legitimacy of the claims made by the climate change kooks.

I’ve been particularly troubled by the whole carbon credit scam. After all, if greenhouse gases indeed are threat to mankind, shouldn’t we be working for a net reduction, not mere offsets?

That’s when the light bulb clicked for me. The carbon credit flim-flam game harkened back to the late 1990’s when similar cap and trade schemes showed up in the energy industry.

At the time I was working as a consultant for a major global energy firm, whose principal rival Enron was knee-deep in the cap and trade pollution credit business. We often speculated that Enron was building a house of cards on this Ponzi-like scheme – it turns out we were right.

Now, thanks to an enlightening investigation by a writer in New Zealand, we know that Enron played a major role in promoting the global warming hoax.

Ken Ring claims that the Kyoto Protocol to bring global management of climate change was cooked up behind closed doors at Enron as a way to cripple the coal industry and steer more industries toward natural gas, of which Enron was the United States’ biggest producer.

Two decades ago, Enron owned and operated a network of natural gas pipelines and had become a leading commodity trader buying and selling contracts and their derivatives to deliver natural gas and electricity.

Because the 1990 Clean Air Act amendments placed caps on how much pollution a fossil fuel plant could emit, Enron helped create a market for EPA’s sulphur dioxide cap-and-trade program, the forerunner of today’s carbon offset scam.

As Enron’s stock shot up, the company next turned to creating a cap-and-trade program for carbon dioxide. The only problem was that carbon dioxide is not a pollutant (despite what the senile members of the Supreme Court may think). As a result, EPA had no authority to cap CO2 emissions.

With the advent of the Clinton administration in 1993, Vice President Al Gore set out to create an international regulatory system that would manage carbon dioxide. Enron immediately began to lobby Congress and the administration to give the EPA regulatory authority over CO2.

In addition, Enron began to cultivate new friends in the environmental community. From 1994 to 1996, the Enron Foundation gave nearly $1 million to the Nature Conservancy, whose Climate Change Project promoted global warming theories. Another $1.5 million was donated to other groups advocating international controls to curb global warming, including Greenpeace.

In 1997, Enron set about to promote an international treaty to impose cuts in CO2 emissions while allowing emission rights trading. Such an agreement would produce a gigantic windfall for Enron because it would boost the usage of natural gas at the expense of coal and it would help Enron’s growing commodity trading business.

As the push for a treaty gained more support around the world, Enron CEO Ken Lay and other business leaders wrote to President Bill Clinton on September 1, 1998, asking him to create a bipartisan blue ribbon commission that would essentially shut off the scientific debate on global warming and discredit those scientists who opposed the treaty and did not support the global warming theory.

Simultaneously, Enron commissioned an internal study of global warming science, only to find the results did not support the theory. In conclusion, the report noted, “The very real possibility is that the great climate alarm could be a false alarm. The anthropogenic warming could well be less than thought and favorably distributed.”

A primary consultant for that study was NASA scientist James Hansen, the very same scientist who now castigates the Bush administration for its stance on Kyoto and who trashes scientists who dispute global warming as being in the hip pocket of big business. That certainly did not keep Mr. Hansen from cashing Enron’s check.

Ring’s investigation, as reported in Investigate magazine, notes that “…coal-burning utilities would have had to pay billions for permits because they emit more CO2 than do natural gas facilities. That would have encouraged closing coal plants in favor of natural gas or other kinds of power plants, driving up prices for those alternatives. Enron, along with other key energy companies in the so-called Clean Power Group – El Paso Corp., NiSource, Trigen Energy, and Calpine – would make money both coming and going from selling permits and then their own energy at higher prices.”

Confirmation of Ring’s story is found in a new book, The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming and Environmentalism, written by Christopher C. Horner, senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Mr. Horner provides extensive documentation of Enron’s involvement behind the scenes with environmentalists (including Theresa Heinz), Bill Clinton, Al Gore and other greed-driven businesses.

Adding to Horner’s credibility is the fact that he worked in Enron’s Washington office in 1997 and witnessed much of the shenanigans himself.

So there you have the global warming story in a nutshell. It’s a story of greed, cynicism and treason, of people willing to sell their fellow citizens down the river to make money and keep their elite status at the expense of ordinary folks around the world.

What is most frightening is the astonishing number of reasonably well-educated people who have been suckered by this ultimate hoax. Just consider the five Supreme Court justices whose recent decision belies a naivete and scientific ignorance that is almost childlike.

The elite media have swallowed the global warming hoax hook, line and sinker, not knowing that one of their all-time bete noirs, Enron, was the Godfather of Kyoto.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

So you're a victim now, Junior?

You are, oinkboy. Make sure you and the Bulgarian cocksucker don't stay out in the sun too long on Splash Day - global warming will make your little peckers shrivel up!

When our First Amendment rights are taken away by the Progressive Fascists, even pigs will be muzzled!

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

And you're a Lardass who can't get it up except for a man-whore from Bulgaria.

I get it up just fine you decrepit pig. You and the Bulgarian want some. Can't have it. But you have each other.

[DSK]

Originally Posted by eatfibo

No, it just usually is the result of loss. However, the crime is lying to people in order to get them to buy your stock.


This argument could be used to stop the AG from prosecuting any crime by any company, unless the company has lost money. You are acting like it isn't a crime unless the price of the stock is already down.

You well know and will likely refuse to acknowledge they are trying to lay down the underpinnings of a mass tort similar to the tobacco lawsuit and the resulting windfall has all the ambulance chasers smelling blood.

However, modern society would cease to exist without burning petroleum, and the investors in Exxon believe in the company and encourage its business enterprise and believe the company should advocate for a continued inquiry into the veracity of climate change claims, and people like yourself should not fear being wrong.

Climate change is not proven, and its skeptics are not suppressing the truth.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Tonto, you are sounding more and more like Trump every day. Are you combing you hair the same also? If they ever make a movie about the dumbing down of Kansas, you will have a starring roll.

I'm sure they'll be filming that in the Great Kansas Mountains, LittleLiberalEva.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I'm sure they'll be filming that in the Great Kansas Mountains, LittleLiberalEva.

http://www.kgs.ku.edu/Current/2004/G...07_nemaha.html



You can ride your horse on them Tonto.

[Guest042616-1]

Originally Posted by DSK

You well know and will likely refuse to acknowledge they are trying to lay down the underpinnings of a mass tort similar to the tobacco lawsuit and the resulting windfall has all the ambulance chasers smelling blood.

If they violated other environmental or public health laws as well by misrepresenting or hiding this research, why would I refuse to acknowledge this?

However, modern society would cease to exist without burning petroleum, and the investors in Exxon believe in the company and encourage its business enterprise and believe the company should advocate for a continued inquiry into the veracity of climate change claims, and people like yourself should not fear being wrong.

XOM has millions of people investing in them. Don't pretend you speak for all of them.

Climate change is not proven, and its skeptics are not suppressing the truth.

Well, we'll see what the outcome of this is because it may turn out that you are totally wrong.

[DSK]

Originally Posted by eatfibo

If they violated other environmental or public health laws as well by misrepresenting or hiding this research, why would I refuse to acknowledge this?


XOM has millions of people investing in them. Don't pretend you speak for all of them.


Well, we'll see what the outcome of this is because it may turn out that you are totally wrong.

You just argue in circles. You know very well I'm saying you won't acknowledge the complicity of the environmental movement and their hidden agenda, not the alleged coverup of Exxon, you jerk.

I'm certain I speak for most of the investors, though not the activists who are essentially fake shareholders, buying a few shares to try to appear like an aggrieved investor.

[Yssup Rider]

That makes him a jerk?

You're well on your way to becoming a faggot, eatfibo!

[Guest042616-1]

Originally Posted by DSK

You know very well I'm saying acknowledge the complicity of the environmental movement and their hidden agenda,

No, I didn't know that because you didn't say it till now. I will happily acknowledge this if you offer up substantial evidence to support the complicity and substantial evidence of this "hidden agenda."

I'm certain I speak for most of the investors, though not the activists who are essentially fake shareholders, buying a few shares to try to appear like an aggrieved investor.

XOM makes up part of the DJIA. It is one of the most commonly owned stocks, whether you do so directly or through some kind of fund. There are plenty of people who own stock in XOM who would disagree with you.

But, you are missing the point. It isn't a crime only if people lose money. You are arguing that the ends justify the means, rather than the intent makes the crime. If the intended to defraud people, whether it worked out in their favor or not, that is the crime. And the AG doesn't have to wait around until the price goes down before they can prosecute intent. If it is there, of course.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by DSK

You just argue in circles....

Lol, you just figured that out about him?

Fido is barking incoherently about Exxon allegedly committing some nebulous fraud, when he is the biggest fraud on here (at the moment, anyway).

Did you catch the way he just told you to "offer up substantial evidence" - that's rich! He still hasn't offered up a single fact about who is suing whom for what alleged wrongdoing in what court!

You might as well be arguing over his imaginary online girlfriend.

Poor widdle fido is too skeered to specify whether he is referring to any ongoing real-world litigation. If he offered up any actual facts, we might nit-pick him!

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

You are already starring as woomby's bitch gay rey. Shame he can't write a review.

YOU were always woomby's bitch and WK EKIM ! Don't try to deflect it now !

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

That makes him a jerk?

You're well on your way to becoming a faggot, eatfibo!

And a gloryhole operator and fudge-packee like YOU would welcome another member to the Austin reach-around crew, wouldn't ya Mr. DOTY 3 TIMES !