Muslims toss Christians overboard - 12 dead

[shanm]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

My response was to your quoted text. Apparently you consider your post as "Tea in China." You have repeatedly shown to be the imbecile.

Tikrit is a city in Iraq. WE was talking about the Bible. No one has any idea wtf you are talking about.

Originally Posted by bigtex

Pot, take a close look at the "Imbecile" Turdfly!

[DSK]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

You see, you speak like you know what you are talking about, but you don't.

That's because you are closing in on a thousand posts in barely half a year. You FAR outpace me, mope.

The Klan? Me? If you read any of my posts about my disdain for the Confederacy and redneck bigots in general, you would never have written that. Just ask IBHankering about our arguments on the subject.

And I never said anything bad about ALL immigrants, mope. In fact, I'm first generation American and don't need your BS condescension, you progressive twat.

What I said was that we needed to be more selective in who we admit. And I named specific countries. I didn't say "Asians" or all immigrants, asshole. Learn to read.

I have attended many engineering classes and I can see who is in the room, numbnuts. Lots of Koreans, Chinese, Indians, Japanese. To a much lesser extent, Pakistanis and Arabs.

And you seem to think that bringing lots of doctors into the US from Pakistan and elsewhere in Asia is a good thing. Why? You're doing nothing more than undercutting the wages of American doctors in order to boost the profits of healthcare companies. Is that the progressive agenda for affordable healthcare?

Back to the topic, why shouldn't we be more selective in who we admit into the country?

At one time, it made sense to flood the county with immigrants. We had a nearly empty continent to fill and allowing lots of farmers and low-skilled laborers and mechanics from Europe and China made sense because native born Americans had about the same skill levels.

Now, we have 320 million people. The country is FULL. The frontier is CLOSED. We don't need large influxes of unskilled immigrants to build the country. The country is already built.

Now, we have an educated and skilled population for the most part. The only part of the economy that doesn't do well is the unskilled, poorly educated part of the population. They need stronger unions, more job opportunities, and less competition. The best way to increase their salaries is to create a labor shortage in their part of the job market.

So, why do we keep bringing in unskilled labor from Asia, south Asian, south America, Africa, and elsewhere?

Why do we not greatly restrict immigration and only allow in small numbers of skilled immigrants to suit our narrowly tailored needs?

And also, cut WAAAAY back on the H1B visa scam that floods our markets with Asian engineers in order to undercut US engineering salaries?

None of that is xenophobia, prick. That is taking care of our citizenry.

Spectacular post, well written, great points. You have surpassed COG as the best poster in this forum.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by DSK

I am merely advocating that you discuss your own Christianity with your pastor. I know good and well my actions are hypocritical, but I just can't help myself when I see a good looking girl I want to have sex with. I'm not defensive about it like you and you refuse to acknowledge the log in your own eye.

Why do I need to discuss my Christianity with my pastor? I only need to discuss it with my God- I am pretty sure the pastor has his own faults and sins as well.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by shanm

See. There's the racist we all love to hate. Do you have any way to prove that other than your anecdotal evidence(which honestly isn't worth a penny). Your disdain for all things Muslim is quite apparent in everything you post. Many Indians are Muslims, and you perhaps(most likely) don't know this but India and Pakistan used to be the same country a mere 60 years ago. They are the same people, same ethnicity, divided haphazardly by the British when they left in 1947.

Wow, you are one ignorant fuck.

First, stop telling me what I do and don't know, because you look and dumber and dumber every time you try to set up a strawman argument.

I'm well aware that India and Pakistan were once the same country.

But the people in it have never been the "same" people or the "same" ethnicity, your moron. India is FULL of different ethnicities, languages, castes, and most of all, religions.

And I know it is fashionable in progressive circles to blame everything on white people, but the Brits did not haphazardly partition India. The natives did that themselves. Primarily because most of the Muslims REFUSED to live in a nation that was controlled by a Hindu majority

The Muslim conquest of India was the bloodiest genocide in human history. It went on for centuries and probably killed between 50 and 80 million Hindus. And that was without the aid of modern weaponry. The Muslim invaders simply regarded the polytheist Hindus and others as subhuman unbelievers and massacred them accordingly. Read about it:

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/32812

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/20...-of-india.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/artic..._of_india.html

It didn't really stop until the British Empire took over India and put an end to the Muslim oppression.

But, when the British decided it was time to get out, it was clear that the Muslims wanted no part of being a minority in India.

They probably feared reprisals by Hindus. But, more prevalently, they just can't stomach the idea of not being in charge.

Evidently you don't read much, but I'm sure you have seen the movie "Gandhi", right? Remember that hunger strike Gandhi went on to try to force Hindus and Muslims to stop killing each other? That was even BEFORE the British pulled out and made India independent.

And try to remember, that "Pakistan" means "land of the pure". Could the Muslim mindset be ANY MORE CLEAR? Talk about rubbing it in the face of Hindus...

Originally Posted by shanm

So for you to claim that there is a fundamental difference in "smarts" when it comes to being Indian or Pakistani basically shows your xenophobic tendencies towards Muslims.

Once again, trying to put words in my mouth. Strawman much, mope?

Point to any post where I said there was fundamental difference in smarts between Indians and Pakistanis. I only made an observation about the numbers of engineering students that I had seen in college classes. The highest percentages seemed to be Asian, with lesser numbers of Indians and still lesser numbers of Pakistanis and Arabs. There are a lot of reasons for that, including the relative numbers of each group that have immigrated to the US.

I said nothing about basic intelligence, asshole. But you try to turn the conversation that way because you are a typical progressive asshole who attributes all disagreement with his viewpoints as rooted in racism.

So, once again, fuck off, mope.

But, hey, thank you again for proving my point about being selective about who we let into the country. Does your tiny progressive brain not grasp the irony of you pointing out that the MUSLIM Boston Bomber (Tsarnaev) was studying dentistry. Yeah, that really undercuts my argument.

Let me put it another way - eventually your progressive "brain" will get the point. If we had not let the Tsarnaev family into the US, but instead let in some Argentinians, or Koreans, or Belgians, or Cambodians, do you think they would have set off bombs at the Boston Marathon?

You already know the answer to that question is "no", so don't pretend otherwise.

Originally Posted by shanm

Let's get one thing straight. I am not arguing for ILLEGAL immigrants. I am arguing ONLY for legal immigrants. Yes, the droves that come in illegally and our taking our jobs ARE a problem, but that is not exclusive to Muslims, and is actually much more prevalent among christian Mexicans. So for you to suggest it's a Muslim problem just because of one or two terrorist attacks that happened in the last 100 years, that is a bit fucking XENOPHOBIC, you "prick".
There have been more internal attacks done by us whites and the black population than have been done by Muslims. But as soon as it's a Muslim, he is automatically considered a representative of the entire Islamic world. What happened when James Holmes shot up that theater in Colorado? He was labelled a crazy, deranged "individual", wasn't he? Did you see people classifying caucasians as an inherent problem to the nation then? Now compare that with the Tsarnev bombing.

I am also arguing about legal immigrants - and being more selective about it.

And there have been countless Muslim atrocities, not one or two. I count ALL the attacks around the world when evaluating potential immigrants. We don't have to wait for them to come here. Right now, ISIS is committing genocide in Libya, Syria and Iraq. Do we really have to let Muslims from those countries into the US to see how they work out?

That is not being xenophobic. That is being minimally observant.

And your comparison of whites (or blacks) who are clinically insane and commit mass murder is entirely fatuous. For starters, they are ALREADY here so we cannot stop them from coming here. And there act are completely random because their genuine mental illness is random.

The Muslim assholes that tare going to Syria to join jihad and get training from ISIS are NOT insane. They are part of an organized terrorist group and they have been indoctrinated by a barbaric Middle Eastern cult. It is stupid to compare that to a clear mental illness.

Originally Posted by shanm

As to the rest of your puerile vomit, you just described the costs of capitalism. Companies will continue outsourcing and hiring immigrants willing to work for lower wages as long as it churns out higher profits for them. You're probably one of those that bang the capitalism drum in every other thread except when it's working in your favor. It's simple capitalism that you use different labor if you can maintain quality and cut costs at the same time. That's the foundation our country was built on, you insufferable cunt.

It may or may not be the cost of capitalism. But immigration policy surely is not.

Nothing prevents American companies from hiring immigrants from Argentina, Peru, China, and even moderate Muslim countries like Turkey or Malaysia, if the immigrant pool is restricted to exclude people from restive, violent, oppressive Muslim countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, most of the Middle East.

The companies will hire those that they are allowed to hire.

Got it now, insufferable cunt?

Originally Posted by shanm

For me, any immigrant that gets here legally, works hard to achieve his dream, and takes care of his family while paying into this country is a true American. Anyone who promotes unfounded hate and bigotry with his juvenile vitriol has my permission to get the fuck out. Since when did proving ANYTHING to a dipshit asswad like you become a requirement to get into this country. You can go fuck yourself for all I (or anyone else) cares.

And we can get plenty of those good, hard-working people from non-Muslim countries - more than we need, in fact. So, since we can't take everybody that wants to come here, why not take those that pose the least risk? That have the smallest potential downside?

And, if the past 30 years have taught us anything, it is that the Muslim predilection towards violence and religious extremism is NOT "unfounded". But thanks for playing, mope.

And no one has to prove anything to me to come here mope. We can just set our immigration quotas to favor certain countries and never have to deal with the jihadists in the first place.

Originally Posted by shanm

You are honestly not worth the minute or so I spend writing my posts. It's obvious that you are too far gone in your hatred and fear-mongering. No amount of sense or reason will get through that immeasurably thick head of yours.

And yet, here you are taking FAR MORE than a minute or so to respond to my posts.

And you do nothing but fill the pages will PC blather.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

EXNYer even though your article is 6 years old- I am well aware that outsourcing is practiced by many companies-

The Boston Globe article is from 2013. I don't know where you got 6 years old from.

But no matter, here is another article from 2015:

http://www.computerworld.com/article...lacements.html

American IT workers are being made to train their H1B visa replacements by Southern California Edison. How much worse can it get?

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Why do I need to discuss my Christianity with my pastor? I only need to discuss it with my God- I am pretty sure the pastor has his own faults and sins as well.

But are his faults and sins banging at least 80 hookers? Being there is no god, leastwise not one that gives a shit about us, you'd be talking to the wall.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

The Boston Globe article is from 2013. I don't know where you got 6 years old from.

But no matter, here is another article from 2015:

http://www.computerworld.com/article...lacements.html

American IT workers are being made to train their H1B visa replacements by Southern California Edison. How much worse can it get?

So you detest the left. But you want the government to tell private companies how to run their business? Hmmmmm... something is not jiving here. Can't have it both ways jizzy.

[IIFFOFRDB]

So called Moderate Muslims hide behind "The Jihad of Words".

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

Wow, you are one ignorant fuck.

First, stop telling me what I do and don't know, because you look and dumber and dumber every time you try to set up a strawman argument.

I'm well aware that India and Pakistan were once the same country.

But the people in it have never been the "same" people or the "same" ethnicity, your moron. India is FULL of different ethnicities, languages, castes, and most of all, religions.

And I know it is fashionable in progressive circles to blame everything on white people, but the Brits did not haphazardly partition India. The natives did that themselves. Primarily because most of the Muslims REFUSED to live in a nation that was controlled by a Hindu majority

The Muslim conquest of India was the bloodiest genocide in human history. It went on for centuries and probably killed between 50 and 80 million Hindus. And that was without the aid of modern weaponry. The Muslim invaders simply regarded the polytheist Hindus and others as subhuman unbelievers and massacred them accordingly. Read about it:


.

So... Obama mentions the atrocities carried out by christian warriors during the Crusades and catches all kinds of shit. You now want to use the Muslim conquest of India to explain how violent Islam is. Hmmmmm...

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

So you detest the left. But you want the government to tell private companies how to run their business? Hmmmmm... something is not jiving here. Can't have it both ways jizzy.

Yes, you can, mope.

Another phony strawman argument (that the right opposes ALL restrictions on business) from a man who has run out of arguments.

The US is a sovereign nation and like all sovereign nations has the right to control its own borders.

We can set out immigration policy and force companies in our borders to use our domestic labor force. NO company has the right to bring foreigners into the US to suit their own needs.

We run our immigration policy for the benefit of our own broad society. Not for the benefit of particular tech companies and certainly not for the benefit of foreign nations and their expatriots.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

But are his faults and sins banging at least 80 hookers? Being there is no god, leastwise not one that gives a shit about us, you'd be talking to the wall.

Only God knows- he could be a *Staff Edit - JCM,stealing money from Church, adulterer, he may have murdered someone- heck he may even be on Eccie with 180 reviews- are you saying having sex with Eccie escorts is one of the worst sins????

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by DSK

Spectacular post, well written, great points. You have surpassed COG as the best poster in this forum.

No disrespect to ExNyer but you are one of the biggest ass kissers on here- you are praising someone's comments and posts on a hooker board???? You sound like someone's butt buddy- almost like you begging to be accepted or begging to suck someone's cock- bend over for COG he will screw you in the shooter- you really sound like a fanboy.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

So... Obama mentions the atrocities carried out by christian warriors during the Crusades and catches all kinds of shit. You now want to use the Muslim conquest of India to explain how violent Islam is. Hmmmmm...

You seem to have me confused with people who reflexively condemn Obama.

I don't defend the Crusades, but I think the Crusades are greatly exaggerated as victimizing Muslims.

For starters, the Muslims had already invaded Europe from the West in Spain in 711 and were pushing into France until Charles Martel turned them around at the Battle of Tours in 732 - thereby saving Europe and eventually, civilization as we know it.

Meanwhile, there were essentially three Crusades against the Muslims in the middle east. The first was from 1096-1099, the second from 1147-1162, and a third from 1187-1192.

As you can see from the dates, the Christians were centuries behind the Muslims in invading the other's domains.

The Crusades were a minor blip in slowing down the progress of Islamic conquest.

And yet that act as if it was the worst thing imaginable. The jihadists still talk about reconquering Spain because, to them, once land falls under Muslim control, it must stay that way always.

Islam is a very territorial religion. And it is that way because its founder was not just a religious figure. Mohamed was also a military, political, and social leader. There is yet more proof of why religion should have NO place in politics and running a nation.

Islam is what results. Fourteen centuries of warfare and oppression of everyone they come up against.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

No disrespect to ExNyer but you are one of the biggest ass kissers on here- you are praising someone's comments and posts on a hooker board???? You sound like someone's butt buddy- almost like you begging to be accepted or begging to suck someone's cock- bend over for COG he will screw you in the shooter- you really sound like a fanboy.

weewee quit playing to be a Christian, it's obvious that you are a Isl-mo Fashist.

[shanm]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

Wow, you are one ignorant fuck.

First, stop telling me what I do and don't know, because you look and dumber and dumber every time you try to set up a strawman argument.

I figured out why you have such trouble getting your point across. Never have I ever seen so many words to say so very little. You really need to tone down the circularity of everything you post, makes it hard to read and understand what the fuck you're trying to say.
"mope"? What is that? Retard word of the day? You used that about 4 times in just your response to me, and have been saying it to everyone you reply to.

Thesaurus not working or what?

First, stop telling me what I do and don't know, because you look and dumber and dumber every time you try to set up a strawman argument.

I'm well aware that India and Pakistan were once the same country.

But the people in it have never been the "same" people or the "same" ethnicity, your moron. India is FULL of different ethnicities, languages, castes, and most of all, religions.

Completely intellectually dishonest. Do you know the meaning of the word "ethnicity"? Here I'll quote you the dictionary definition:
An ethnic group or ethnicity is a socially defined category of people who identify with each other based on common ancestral, social, cultural or national experience.

An ethnic group.....based on common ancestral, social, cultural or national experience.
The Muslims and Hindus had been living together since way before even the Mughal empire (in the 15th century). The Mughal empire is what the British took control from. That makes them have a common heritage (ancestral, social, cultural and national) that spanned more than 5 centuries, and therefore they have a common ethnicity.
Get it now, "mope"?
If I intended to use the word religion or race, I would have used religion or race.

Fun fact, India actually has more muslims than Pakistan

I'll keep telling you what you don't know as long as you pretend it's something you do know. Seems to be a daunting task but I'm well up for it.

It didn't really stop until the British Empire took over India and put an end to the Muslim oppression.

But, when the British decided it was time to get out, it was clear that the Muslims wanted no part of being a minority in India.

They probably feared reprisals by Hindus. But, more prevalently, they just can't stomach the idea of not being in charge.

Evidently you don't read much, but I'm sure you have seen the movie "Gandhi", right? Remember that hunger strike Gandhi went on to try to force Hindus and Muslims to stop killing each other? That was even BEFORE the British pulled out and made India independent.

And try to remember, that "Pakistan" means "land of the pure". Could the Muslim mindset be ANY MORE CLEAR? Talk about rubbing it in the face of Hindus...

Oh so now you're defending a British imperialist conquest of India? What's next? The enslavement of millions of Africans was okay because in the end the remaining 1% got blue passports?

It's obvious that you are in dire need of a history lesson. The Mughal empire was one of the few examples in which different religions and cultures lived together harmoniously. It was, in some instances called the golden-age of Muslim-Hindu relation.Here, read up on it, "mope":
http://sensiblereason.com/muslim-hin...esive-culture/
http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/p.../part2_17.html
The Mughal Empire was a time period of peaceful religious and cultural flourishing between the Hindus and Muslims of India, culminating in a golden age of Islamic-Hindu cross cultural pollination.

It had a prosperous economy and some of the greatest resource supplies in the world at that point. Why the fuck do you think the British wanted to take it over? It certainly wasn't this:

the British Empire took over India and put an end to the Muslim oppression.

as you ASSininely claim.

You said it yourself

when the British decided it was time to get out, it was clear that the Muslims wanted no part of being a minority in India

Why do you think the ruling class was reduced to "being a minority in India" when the British were done with the empire? hmmm something doesn't add up.

The Muslim conquest of India was the bloodiest genocide in human history. It went on for centuries and probably killed between 50 and 80 million Hindus. And that was without the aid of modern weaponry. The Muslim invaders simply regarded the polytheist Hindus and others as subhuman unbelievers and massacred them accordingly. Read ab

Your absolute hatred for Muslims becomes clearer with every post. What the fuck does Muslim conquests in the 11th century have anything to do with today? As if the world was all so peachy elsewhere.
And did you really try to quote blogs as official sources?
Suddenly it all makes sense now.

Once again, trying to put words in my mouth. Strawman much, mope

Nope you mope. No one wants to put anything in your mouth. You said:

Lots of Koreans, Chinese, Indians, Japanese. To a much lesser extent, Pakistanis and Arabs.

That was your response to my claim that the makeup of engineering classes is mostly immigrants, which includes Arabs and Pakistanis. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what you meant by "a much lesser extent". You were intentionally claiming that Pakistani's and Arabs probably aren't as smart as "Koreans, Chinese, Indians, Japanese". Truth is, most people can't even tell the difference between an Indian and a Pakistani,(also arabs). As proven above, they have common mixed ancestors and, more often than not, they look very much alike. So tell me, how the fuck do you distinguish between an "Indian and a Pakistani" just by looking at them. Anyone with an IQ in the triple digits can tell what you meant by that, so don't try to dance around with a bunch of nonsensical words.

And your comparison of whites (or blacks) who are clinically insane and commit mass murder is entirely fatuous. For starters, they are ALREADY here so we cannot stop them from coming here. And there act are completely random because their genuine mental illness is random.

So you're saying that "mental illness" is exclusive to blacks and whites? There's no way a Muslim could be mentally ill, is that correct? It must have to do with the fact that he's a Muslim?
Never mind the more than 1.7 billion Muslims that live their lives as ordinary human beings all around the world.
What you're arguing for is the basic definition of bigotry. I refuse to believe that the 200,000 ISIS militants are somehow representative of a 1.7 Billion populace (that's 0.0001% btw). Call me crazy!

The Muslim assholes that tare going to Syria to join jihad and get training from ISIS are NOT insane. They are part of an organized terrorist group and they have been indoctrinated by a barbaric Middle Eastern cult. It is stupid to compare that to a clear mental illness.

And we can get plenty of those good, hard-working people from non-Muslim countries - more than we need, in fact. So, since we can't take everybody that wants to come here, why not take those that pose the least risk? That have the smallest potential downside?

You love to argue your own personal anecdotes, don't you? what's funny is that you don't even pretend to offer any evidence for your own anecdotal claims.

Let me ask you a question? Do you think that it is easy for a Muslim to get even an American visa nowadays? well, my anecdotes (and common sense!) would tell me NO. They are highly screened and most people that get green cards or American citizenship go through a lengthy vetting process. In that vetting process, people that are qualified and seen as contributory to the nation are allowed to enter. Am I saying that that is true for every single case? No. But it is true for the overwhelming majority of them. Feel free to drop some anecdotes on how your latest Pakistani cab driver got in by marrying a white woman.

I'll agree with you if you say that there needs to be more security on immigration checks. Hell, I even agree when you said we "have to be more selective about it". But what you're arguing for is a systematic denial of any immigrant, (maybe one who could even find the cure to cancer) simply based on the fact that he/she is a Muslim. Fun fact, the youngest microsoft certified computer professional in the WORLD is a 9 year old Pakistani kid named Babar Iqbal. He got that title by replacing the other youngest MCP who is (you guessed it) another Pakistani kid named Arfa Karim.

I'm arguing for more control over over illegal immigration AND legal immigration. What you're saying is that we simply don't let in any Muslims from specific countries no matter how talented they are.
All evidence indicate to the fact that you watch too much fox news and Papa bear O'reilly has polluted your mind with an irrational fear of Muslims that will continue to haunt you until you choke on your last breath.

Good luck with that!