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07-17-2020, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sportfisherman
I'm so glad you find this predominantly right wing discourse amusing.
That's because the Left wing discourse was so bad on this board it's adherents were banned, they can't control their emotions which is what we see happening on our streets everyday now, people that can't control themselves. I commend you on not following your brethren on the left who were banned. I think at one point or so it seemed to me when I first got here, the left dominated this board.
Due to tribal wars in Africa,people who were perhaps mistreated ,abused,or enslaved by stronger tribes,forced White people to buy themselves ?
No, White people were not forced to buy Black people but I think it is pertinent to ask if it was only White people enslaving Black people and of course the answer to that is no. If it were only Whites doing it, you would have a point but at that time in history, all people, White, Black, Brown, Yellow and Red, were enslaving people. Doesn't make it right but to perpetuate the idea that this is a White phenomenon and not acknowledge that races other than Whites were enslaving people is a false argument.
Were White people Forced to go in ships to Africa to Buy slaves ?
No. Were Africans forced to have the slaves on the shore when the White people came to buy them? Were the Africans forced to sell them? To try and put this terrible time in history at the feet of only White people is what I object to. I absolutely accept the role Whites played but understand that Whites were not the only race doing this.
When these Slave traders came to America did they Force White people to buy their Goods ?
Were the slave traders forced to sell their goods? This is a circular argument that gets us no where. We can all agree I hope at this time in history that selling and buying enslaved people is wrong and in fact, neither Whites or Blacks in America still do this but Blacks I believe still practice this to a greater degree than Whites in other parts of the world. Would you disagree with that?
I need you to enlighten me some more with your knowledge and views regarding this subject.
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I hope I have enlightened you but if not yet, let me try a little harder. Does slavery still exist in the world today and is it predominately done by Western White people, those that did enslave at one time in America?
Together, these 10 countries – China, Democratic Republic of the Congo, India, Indonesia, Iran, Nigeria, North Korea, Pakistan, the Philippines and Russia – comprise 60% of all the people living in modern slavery, as well as more than half the world's population, according to the Global Slavery Index
Despite the fact that slavery is prohibited worldwide, modern forms of the sinister practice persist. More than 40 million people still toil in debt bondage in Asia, forced labor in the Gulf states, or as child workers in agriculture in Africa or Latin America.
In the 21st Century, almost every country has legally abolished chattel slavery, but the number of people currently enslaved around the world is far greater than the number of slaves during the historical Atlantic slave trade.
58 percent of people in slavery are living in just five countries: India, China, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Uzbekistan.
I hope you have been enlightened. Slavery never was a predominately White atrocity and nobody has done more to right this wrong than the White people of American in the last 50 plus years.
Now Whites are working to end racism at a time when Blacks seem hell bent on wanting "their turn".
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07-17-2020, 08:32 PM
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#107
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A teenager created an anti-racism calendar to make it easier for everyone to become an ally
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/17/us/an...rnd/index.html
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Sixteen-year-old Tilly Krishna thought that there was a need for a simple resource to help people become more aware of Black history and bias in their own lives and communities.
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I'm having a few and on a troll. So much so this is the second article from CNN - and I'm not good with CNN. But this came across my feed. Felt the need to share.
Happy trolling, you . . .
. . . little, little shit.
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07-17-2020, 08:48 PM
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#108
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So Rifleman ;
Are you suggesting you may be possibly "baiting" these guys so they go out on a limb and show their ignorance ?
Hey Hotrod,
I notice you professing your intellect to exceed mine.
Are you also touting your courage and Patriotism ?
Is that you Hoisting the Flag at Iwo Jima ?
Don't any of you guys have a picture of yourself crossing the Delaware with George Washington ?
And L-anon,
I assure you those that suffer the indignities of racism do not find it amusing.
It's also telling that you,obviously a non-diverse individual,would proclaim racism an Illusion.Do you have personal experience of the kind of racism people of color experience still today ? Have you suffered ?
It is a Reality to them.
And Mr Confederate Fag (that's a typo);
I was not comparing the Native American and Black experience to each other.Different experiences.
I was comparing that they both were relegated to "Less Than" status by the white Americans.
The Whites used the concept of Manifest Destiny.That they were ordained by God to settle all the way to the Pacific and they were justified in taking land from the God-less Heathens (at least not the right Christian God) who lived there.
Lastly,
Is what you guys are saying is that it was mostly Black people Owning slaves here in America ?
I don't remember seeing any Black neighbors in Gone with the Wind ?
You mean most of those Plantation Homes on those southern tours were owned by Blacks ?
Or is it what I really think you are doing is Rationalizing white behavior in that the Slaves were already brutalized to an extent by other blacks and the Whites were just extending and perpetuating that brutalization ?
Were whites not complicit ?
Does that absolve the white Americans of any part in things ?
Come on you Academics. Can you cite some more resources ?
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07-17-2020, 08:48 PM
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#109
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AKA President Trump
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The MAGA Zone
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Originally Posted by eccieuser9500
A teenager created an anti-racism calendar to make it easier for everyone to become an ally
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/17/us/an...rnd/index.html
I'm having a few and on a troll. So much so this is the second article from CNN - and I'm not good with CNN. But this came across my feed. Felt the need to share.
Happy trolling, you . . .
. . . little, little shit.
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
if you mean the tolerance for "black privilege" yes the tolerance is gone. the black race has squandered any good will by blaming whites for slavery and rioting like anarchists every time some black dude commits a crime and gets all uppity and obstreperous about it.
blacks claim whites must take the first step. i say the first step must be from the blacks. they must admit slavery was their fault and stop blaming whites for their fatherless bucks running around being thugs.
i think we need a national "Black Shame" day there every black must wear a white X on their foreheads all day in public. to show their SHAME of their intraracist murderous past. like them Catholics with their ash crosses for Ash Wednesday.
what do you think? good idea, right?
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
i assert no such thing. i state fact that black tribal wars were the largest single source of slavery. all blacks today live with the blood of their own tribal wars and self hatred on their hands. you can deflect and make excuses for the truth all day long. it's still true.
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07-17-2020, 09:06 PM
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#110
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HF,
I honestly appreciate your commentary.
And I apologize if it seems I am trying to Demonize anybody.
I am not. I am just being extreme to try to illustrate that our antecedents did have a part in things.
And it seems on this board some want to white-wash that.
And it is obvious there his still hostility toward minorities on here.
I grew up with that Jim Crow shit and was too young to know anything.
I am not trying to lay it only at the feet of white people.
But I disagree on one thing ;
I do feel that "in America" slavery was predominantly a white atrocity.
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07-17-2020, 09:17 PM
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Now Wacko,
Remember what I said regarding you not being able to keep up and having to sit at the Kiddie Table ??
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07-17-2020, 09:25 PM
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#112
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Join Date: May 20, 2017
Location: Kansas City
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Originally Posted by Levianon17
I really enjoyed reading these posts most them were incredibly funny. Now let's all face a few facts. During the times of slavery in America there was probably a lot of racism, but cell phones with video and photo capabilities didn't exist so nothing has been captured to document the true extent of racism. Today we do have video and photo technology available and many incidents are captured in video and pictures for people to see for generations to come. So what will they see? For the most part white Cops kicking the shit out of Black Guys who resist arrest and get shot and then parades of disgruntled Black People looting businesses, destroying property and harassing white people thats what history will show. Now there will always be crime what smart Blacks and smart Whites need to do is ban together to crush these militant groups and put them out of circulation. Until then we will have racism and mayhem and it will get worse before it gets better because we let it.
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Looks like you can't get out of the 21st century when talking about the 18th century. Probably the vast majority of Americans thought that the "Africans" were inferior. That wasn't racism in those days, it was science and history. Many of those same people did not believe in slavery. So you can, in the 18th century, believe someone is inferior in some way but still has the right to be free. Speaking of that, many liberals think that those on the right are inferior and don't think that deserve equal rights. Liberals are the true racists and bigots.
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07-17-2020, 09:31 PM
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#113
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AKA President Trump
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The MAGA Zone
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Originally Posted by sportfisherman
HF,
I honestly appreciate your commentary.
And I apologize if it seems I am trying to Demonize anybody.
I am not. I am just being extreme to try to illustrate that our antecedents did have a part in things.
And it seems on this board some want to white-wash that.
And it is obvious there his still hostility toward minorities on here.
I grew up with that Jim Crow shit and was too young to know anything.
I am not trying to lay it only at the feet of white people.
But I disagree on one thing ;
I do feel that "in America" slavery was predominantly a white atrocity.
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Originally Posted by sportfisherman
Now Wacko,
Remember what I said regarding you not being able to keep up and having to sit at the Kiddie Table ??
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still "whitewashing" the black tribe angle. okay if you want to. i'm sure you hold yer head up high thincking that. you might even believe it and try to live by it.
let me tell you what i don't have to live by. i don't live by a bunch of racist crap all white are inherently racist nor are all whites guilty of racism and certainly not the slave trade up to the civil war. a large number of whites in the US today came after the civil war, like my Irish maternal side. they had not one gotdam thing to do with the old slave system. they weren't even here. so what reparations should they pay? nothing. how many blacks today are 7+ gen to be direct descendants from slaves? all these things are facts that are inconvenient tp BLM and the "evil whitey" narrative. sorry about that.
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07-17-2020, 09:33 PM
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#114
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Location: Kansas City
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Originally Posted by sportfisherman
I'm so glad you find this predominantly right wing discourse amusing.
And you guys are ganging up on The Rifleman ? You should be ashamed.
You don't like that he has most of you pegged for what you are ?
You know I admit,I don't know too much about some of this stuff.
Tell me again ;
Due to tribal wars in Africa,people who were perhaps mistreated ,abused,or enslaved by stronger tribes,forced White people to buy themselves ?
Were White people Forced to go in ships to Africa to Buy slaves ?
When these Slave traders came to America did they Force White people to buy their Goods ?
I need you to enlighten me some more with your knowledge and views regarding this subject.
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Circumstances did force people to do some unsavory things. If you're a Virginia tobacco grower and you need more labor. Do you spend months sending word to England offering work in the new world? Do you compete with every land owner in the colonies for labor? You hear that some Spanish captain has arrived with 35 Africans and he's looking for a quick turn around...after all, it's temporary, for a few years until more Englishmen show up. Maybe some indentured Brits or convicts. Anyway, you have to cultivate the land or lose it back to the crown.
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07-17-2020, 09:37 PM
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#115
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Originally Posted by sportfisherman
So Rifleman ;
Are you suggesting you may be possibly "baiting" these guys so they go out on a limb and show their ignorance ?
Hey Hotrod,
I notice you professing your intellect to exceed mine.
Are you also touting your courage and Patriotism ?
Is that you Hoisting the Flag at Iwo Jima ?
Don't any of you guys have a picture of yourself crossing the Delaware with George Washington ?
And L-anon,
I assure you those that suffer the indignities of racism do not find it amusing.
It's also telling that you,obviously a non-diverse individual,would proclaim racism an Illusion.Do you have personal experience of the kind of racism people of color experience still today ? Have you suffered ?
It is a Reality to them.
And Mr Confederate Fag (that's a typo);
I was not comparing the Native American and Black experience to each other.Different experiences.
I was comparing that they both were relegated to "Less Than" status by the white Americans.
The Whites used the concept of Manifest Destiny.That they were ordained by God to settle all the way to the Pacific and they were justified in taking land from the God-less Heathens (at least not the right Christian God) who lived there.
Lastly,
Is what you guys are saying is that it was mostly Black people Owning slaves here in America ?
I don't remember seeing any Black neighbors in Gone with the Wind ?
You mean most of those Plantation Homes on those southern tours were owned by Blacks ?
Or is it what I really think you are doing is Rationalizing white behavior in that the Slaves were already brutalized to an extent by other blacks and the Whites were just extending and perpetuating that brutalization ?
Were whites not complicit ?
Does that absolve the white Americans of any part in things ?
Come on you Academics. Can you cite some more resources ?
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The reason why I referred to racism as an illusion is because everything can be construed as racism in today's society. For instance a White Cop using deadly force against a black suspect is considered racist regardless of the total circumstances ect.
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07-17-2020, 10:14 PM
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#116
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Join Date: Jan 27, 2018
Location: Back in Texas!
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Originally Posted by HedonistForever
I hope I have enlightened you but if not yet, let me try a little harder. Does slavery still exist in the world today and is it predominately done by Western White people, those that did enslave at one time in America?
Together, these 10 countries – China, Democratic Republic of the Congo, India, Indonesia, Iran, Nigeria, North Korea, Pakistan, the Philippines and Russia – comprise 60% of all the people living in modern slavery, as well as more than half the world's population, according to the Global Slavery Index
Despite the fact that slavery is prohibited worldwide, modern forms of the sinister practice persist. More than 40 million people still toil in debt bondage in Asia, forced labor in the Gulf states, or as child workers in agriculture in Africa or Latin America.
In the 21st Century, almost every country has legally abolished chattel slavery, but the number of people currently enslaved around the world is far greater than the number of slaves during the historical Atlantic slave trade.
58 percent of people in slavery are living in just five countries: India, China, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Uzbekistan.
I hope you have been enlightened. Slavery never was a predominately White atrocity and nobody has done more to right this wrong than the White people of American in the last 50 plus years.
Now Whites are working to end racism at a time when Blacks seem hell bent on wanting "their turn".
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Excellent post!
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07-17-2020, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ducbutter
From Google books re: the book titled 'Black Slaveowners,
"Most Americans, both black and white, believe that slavery was a system maintained by whites to exploit blacks, but this authoritative study reveals the extent to which African Americans played a significant role as slave masters. Examining South Carolina's diverse population of African-American slaveowners, the book demonstrates that free African Americans widely embraced slavery as a viable economic system and that they--like their white counterparts--exploited the labor of slaves on their farms and in their businesses. Drawing on the federal census, wills, mortgage bills of sale, tax returns, and newspaper advertisements, the author reveals the nature of African-American slaveholding, its complexity, and its rationales. He describes how some African-American slave masters had earned their freedom but how many others--primarily mulattoes born of free parents--were unfamiliar with slavery's dehumanization." The author is Larry Koger.
Something tells me you won't truly grasp the significance or perspective of a book like this.
Please do your best not to brand Mr. Koger as an "Uncle Tom".
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Very interesting information!
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07-17-2020, 10:18 PM
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{staff edit- CK} if white I bad racist if I'm a {staff edit- CK} than good job.
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07-17-2020, 10:19 PM
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#119
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I figured as much. Which orifice does he/she most enjoy offering as a receptacle?
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Assup tells me he and Lucas take turns fucking each other in the ass, then Matching Mole licks the shit off their dicks.
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07-17-2020, 10:20 PM
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#120
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^^^ everyone wave BYE BYE to Rip. again.
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