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04-11-2013, 07:27 PM
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I doubt #1 is reflected in the legislative history, but it probably permeates NOW literature.
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It is absoutely a part of history. As rhe West was opened up prositution was not only not restricted, it was encouragede. As the mining and ranching communities progressed and women begain to join their husbands and families began to migrate west, THAT'S when prostitution was criminalized.
Many societies did not allow female children to inheret money. Widows weren't allowed to inheret their "husband's" money if there was a male issue (child). There was absoutely no such thing as community property unless it was protected by the bride's father in a marital contract. Wealthy women's assets were lost to them when they married.
It's all there in the history books. The professions open to women were menial. Prostitution was one of the very few in which a woman could earn a signifigant income. Look at the comment above about the only place STILL women enjoy a signifigant upper hand.
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As for #2, thank goodness you are in a majority, although I am not taking "love" literally in the context of the statement and I must "presume" who you include in the "criminal justice system" from an occupational perspective.
Relatively speaking I feel comfortable in perceiving your exposure to "those in the criminal justice system" is somewhat restricted in time and scope. But you have "good" company on here, particularly in this thread, with respect to your "perspective."
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I LOATHE the small minds and power trippers in the criminal justice system. My father was an attorney and my brother was on the job for 15 years before he became an ADA. I dearly love my brother, but the truth is the men and women of the CSJ live life in a cocoon and are quite literally at war with the people they protect.
I will admit there is only a thin blue line of the CJS for societies that protects us from anarchy. Clearly anarchy isn't an option, but the CSJ needs a CONSTANT, white-hot spot light shined on it.
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So, it really isn't very "authoritative" in value.
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I disagree.
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Your attitude, and others like you, doesn't justify their slaughter, or even the wholesale characterization of them all.
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Of course I don't want to slaughter them. I don't want anyone slaughtered. Besides, without the CSJ, we would prey. I'll take the enemy of 75 percent of the CJS over being the prey of feudal lords and bands of marauders.
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04-11-2013, 07:34 PM
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This is exactly why I have more respect for "providers" than your average civilian woman on the street who's had everything in the world handed to them on a silver platter by "daddy" and never had to "want" for anything a day in their life.
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The largest demographic world wide, including here in the States, is women and their children. A common cause of death in India is dieing in a "kitchen fire". Translated, husbands kill their wives in kitchen fires so they can re-marry and collect another dowary. NO! The "average" woman, again, even in the States, isn't a pampered princess. I grew up poor; I'm not now. I earned my own way.
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04-11-2013, 07:35 PM
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History is a set of lies agreed upon.
- N. Bonaparte.
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04-11-2013, 07:38 PM
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History is a set of lies agreed upon.
- N. Bonaparte.
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You're quoting a usurper, a regiside by proxy, a dictator and a mad with power wilitary maniac that lost - TWICE! Of course he'd say something like that.
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04-11-2013, 07:50 PM
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The largest demographic world wide, including here in the States, is women and their children. A common cause of death in India is dieing in a "kitchen fire". Translated, husbands kill their wives in kitchen fires so they can re-marry and collect another dowary. NO! The "average" woman, again, even in the States, isn't a pampered princess. I grew up poor; I'm not now. I earned my own way.
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That being said....this is not India....people here actually pay consequences for their actions....unlike Muslim law....or unless you have money and "know" people......then you pay little or no consequence regardless of whether your male or female.....though I know where LL will try to take this statement.....however, some atrocities are much more "Robin Hoodish" than others.
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04-11-2013, 09:21 PM
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You're quoting a usurper, a regiside by proxy, a dictator and a mad with power wilitary maniac that lost - TWICE! Of course he'd say something like that.
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"Regi cide"
It applies whether the "lies" are intentional or not. "History" changes with new interpretations across generations, demographics, cultures, and so on...
And was directed at all posters invoking it.. Not just you
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04-11-2013, 10:51 PM
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"Regi cide"
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Everynody knows I can't spell.
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It applies whether the "lies" are intentional or not. "History" changes with new interpretations across generations, demographics, cultures, and so on...
And was directed at all posters invoking it.. Not just you
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No, a meglomaniac (sp - better?) tends to need such declarations to validate his reign and subsiquent failures. Winning isn't easy, and therefore, doesn't require explanations as a general rule. It's evident by the win.
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04-11-2013, 10:57 PM
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That being said....this is not India....people here actually pay consequences for their actions....unlike Muslim law....or unless you have money and "know" people......then you pay little or no consequence regardless of whether your male or female.....though I know where LL will try to take this statement.....however, some atrocities are much more "Robin Hoodish" than others.
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Interisting that you'd pick the lowest common demoninator in my list of examples to stand on. No, HERE in the States the poorest demographic is women and their children. The "average" woman as you say isn't spoon fed ambrosia whilst she drives her T-Bird 'till her daddy takes it away.
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04-12-2013, 04:28 AM
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#1: It's all there in the history books. Along with a lot of other "fashionable" musings, like the "Battle of the Alamo."
#2: I LOATHE the small minds and power trippers in the criminal justice system. I do as well, to which I will add ... those outside of the criminal justice system, although it has been my experience that most of them in the criminal justice system are females trying to "prove themselves" by over compensating to "establish" themselves as significant. An affliction that often infects those who have been restricted in their opportunities in the past. Fortunately, those are in the minority.
#3: I disagree. I expected you to disagree. See #2, above. But I've had more direct experience in that area than you over a broader geographical and political spectrum.
#4: Of course I don't want to slaughter them. That's encouraging and on topic.
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I'm sure you are an incredibly sweet and talented person in your chosen profession.
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04-12-2013, 04:39 AM
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.....though I know where LL will try to take this statement.....however, some atrocities are much more "Robin Hoodish" than others.
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LL doesn't have to "take" that "statement" any where ... you did!
... "Robin Hood" .... Please tell me you are not comparing the slaughter of the DA and his wife to an act of "Robbin Hood" ...
... those plant fumes are creating havoc in your brain.
a·troc·i·ty( -tr s -t )
n. pl. a·troc·i·ties 1. Appalling or atrocious condition, quality, or behavior; monstrousness.
2. An appalling or atrocious act, situation, or object, especially an act of unusual or illegal cruelty inflicted by an armed force on civilians or prisoners.
Hooking someone to a car battery, pouring acid on them, encasing them in concrete, and dumping them in the lake .... "Robin Hoodish"?
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04-12-2013, 05:08 AM
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Hooking someone to a car battery, pouring acid on them, encasing them in concrete, and dumping them in the lake ....
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.....you reap what you sow
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04-12-2013, 06:36 AM
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.....you reap what you sow
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Then you would graciously accept your harvest for speaking ill of the DA's and ADA's! If they were inclined to administer the same retribution.
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04-12-2013, 09:53 AM
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Your argument, which didn't copy for some reason, is non-substantive and completly illogical.
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I'm sure you are an incredibly sweet and talented person in your chosen profession.
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So when the lack substance of logic doesn't work, you fall back on using the ole "hooker" argement. Frankly, it's something Waleup would do.
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04-13-2013, 04:55 AM
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Your argument, which didn't copy for some reason, is non-substantive and completly illogical.
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Unfortunately, for you, ....
.... I don't need your approval and acceptance to make it through the day.
But this thread is not about you, is it. It's about someone killing people working in the criminal justice system (and their family members), because the some doesn't like the laws they enforce or the that they enforce the laws as they are written.
Sweetie I don't need your acceptance or recognition. I know who I am.
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04-13-2013, 04:58 PM
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But this thread is not about you, is it. It's about someone killing people working in the criminal justice system (and their family members), because the some doesn't like the laws they enforce or the that they enforce the laws as they are written.
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Actually the topic of the thread was originally about HCSO's latest propaganda video about efforts to crack down on soliciting....it just happened to manifest into a thread about a few people in the criminal justice system who were apparently targeted to be made "examples of" for reasons I'm sure we'll know the full details of.
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