The Corrupt Ukraine Scam

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

It is 100% clear what started it, which is US politicians meddling in Eastern Europe to enrich themselves and their families.

Lol. Um, no.

[Jacuzzme]

I don’t listen to or watch legacy media on any kind of regular basis. Maybe the weather forecast, whose 50% accuracy rate is a good bit better than their “news” coverage.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by tommy156

Lol. Um, no.

Sorry, dude. As AOC would say, it’s all about the Benjamins, like every other war. Without money and god, who compete for the most dead humans, there’d be whirred peas.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by tommy156

Exactly. There's nothing to negotiate. Putin, get the fuck out of Ukraine and return every inch of territory that has been illegally annexed. Period.

If not, then it's cluster bomb time. As many as it takes for the war criminals to GTFO.

So you are for war crimes and blowing up innocent Ukrainian citizens for decades to come. Thanks for confirming you don't give a flying fuck about the Ukrainian people and just care about defending Senile Biden and feeding the war machine. You and your fellow leftists don't want peace. You just want an ongoing conflict with Russia because the DNC media tells you to

Utterly pathetic

Meanwhile here is one country explaining the horrors of cluster bombs:

Cambodia urged Ukraine not to use cluster bombs. Prime Minister Hun Sen wrote on Twitter that his country has been struggling for more than half a century with the consequences of the bombing of the United States with such ammunition in the early 1970s.

"It's been half a century. Then there were simply no means to clear them. Have pity on the Ukrainian people, I appeal to the US as a supplier and Ukraine, as a recipient of such shells, not to use these ammunition in the war, because the real victims will be Ukrainian civilians."

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

This is the issue. A good 80% or more in select areas of Ukraine are Russian and wish to live in their sphere of influence. What’s shown on TV now is nothing resembling the truth. It was the same in Crimea (which has thrived the past decade with infrastructure and services improvements), where that 80% number is WAY too low.

The trick to this is taking what the media says, and consider the truth to be the exact opposite.

Correct. This is what the ill informed leftists don't understand. A big portion of some areas of Ukraine are Russian and welcome Russia's influence. They would rather be part of Russia than corrupt Ukraine. Which is why a negotiated settlement is the only legitimate option for peace.

[berryberry]

Pentagon: “The war has been a strategic failure for Ukraine.”

Press: “You mean Russia?”

Pentagon: “I’m sorry, excuse me, a strategic failure for Ukraine!”

It happens when you always hear behind closed doors how bad the US proxy war is going for Ukraine

https://twitter.com/i/status/1678496697222144002

[berryberry]

Presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has blasted Joe Biden’s decision to send cluster bombs to Ukraine, calling it part of a “ceaseless escalation” that is endangering the planet.

Kennedy noted in a tweet that former Biden Press Secretary Jen Psaki admitted last year that the use of cluster bombs constitutes a war crime.

“Now President Biden plans to send them to Ukraine. Stop the ceaseless escalation! It is time for peace,” RFK Jr. added.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...-bombs-ukraine
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Kennedy pointed out how practically every civilized nation has banned cluster bombs because of how horrific they are and how many innocent people, including children, are killed by them:

[berryberry]

Glenn Greenwald nails it - this describes a lot of leftists cheering on this war.

"Watching others march to war, and cheering it from a safe distance, is one major tool used by men who have inferiority complexes about their own courage. They know they've never risked anything for a cause and never will."

[Jacuzzme]

Everyone already knows how this ends, and it’s not with Russia giving in. Ukraine will cede Donbas and Crimea and receive nato protection going forward. Just quit the dick measuring contest and get it over with so people stop dying.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Everyone already knows how this ends, and it’s not with Russia giving in. Ukraine will cede Donbas and Crimea and receive nato protection going forward. Just quit the dick measuring contest and get it over with so people stop dying.

Indeed. Ukraine is losing. They are running out of ammo and the US is running out of ammo to give to them

NATO just told dirtbag Zelensky and corrupt Ukraine to fuck off, they are not welcome to join. Ukraine is losing the war and Senile Biden and the US could force peace in a day but won't because Senile Biden and his cronies are profiting off the war.

Ukraine needs to negotiate a peaceful settlement and yes, that includes ceding the pro-Russia areas of Ukraine who want to be part of Russia. Either that or continue getting their people killed

[HDGristle]

Ukraine isn't losing the war. That's as asinine as pretending your have proof that Ukraine blew up the damn dam

[Jacuzzme]

They’re certainly not winning. Russia is dug in and there are few usable points of ingress in that terrain, all of which are mined and pre-targeted. The only way they’re getting out is massive US air and naval power, which would flatten cities leaving them not worth taking and likely trigger WW3.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by berryberry

Ukraine needs to negotiate a peaceful settlement and yes, that includes ceding the pro-Russia areas of Ukraine who want to be part of Russia. Either that or continue getting their people killed

Lol. It's really sad the way some of you keep apologizing for Putin. And now Zelenskiy is a "dirtbag"? Unreal.

Ukraine doesn't need to negotiate shit. Russia needs to get the fuck out and return every inch of land they've illegally annexed. Period.

[Jacuzzme]

And what if they don’t, which they’re not going to? You willing to risk a hot war with a nuclear power? Sacrifice your family? Grab a rifle and stand a post?

[FatCity]

Har har
I always side with MSM and those in power. They know best