If you found out your ATF had a pimp, would you still see her?

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This discussion certainly has gone south....

[MrGiz]

There are many pimps involved in the hobby!*Is that news??

Do I want to see a woman who is dumb enough and weak-minded enough to give her hard earned money to a worthless pimp?*NO!

But... to be so stupid as to not know the difference between what is and what is not a pimp, only shows that ignorance runs rampant around here....

Butthurt? I don't think so!!
Embarrassed, that many of my fellow poon hounds are so phucking ignorant, is more like it!!

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by MrGiz

Butthurt? I don't think so!!
Embarrassed, that many of my fellow poon hounds are so phucking ignorant, is more like it!!

I'm not ignorant of ladies with husbands/SO's/Open relationships. If you search my posts in the past, and on different threads, you will see I have experience in dealing with a SO who thought he was stable enough to have an open relationship and consent to her being an escort. After three days of a seven day trip, he completely was enraged with jealously and threatening violence and harm to me. I had seen her over 10 different times and was unaware of the SO.

The fact is no one can ever tell when these SO's will go completely postal and endager someone's life.

I speak from experience and the facts, it is you, who is completely ignorant of human emotions and what people in these relationships are capable of.

[MrGiz]

You have posted two reviews... they are both "No's"....
Maybe you need to do a better job of picking playmates!

[nwarounder]

Nevermind MrGiz, I got a few pm's noting your lady being outed, I understand completely now. Consider yourself on the ignore list. And thanks guys and gals for all the heads up.

[MrGiz]

Instead of arguing over definitions... here's an answer to Gimme_That's original question:

If the girl was your "ATF".... I would assume that you have seen her several times in order to give her that status. If she has achieved that status over several visits , she must be doing a pretty damned good job!

Then... you find out she is one philly in a stable of phillies, managed by some pimp. I can understand the disappointment.... mainly because you would probably feel foolish for over-estimating the girl's intelligence and independence!

But.... she's still your ATF!

Granted.... that's a difficult decision...

[gimme_that]

Giz last response was my original premise for this thread.....and it is a hard question especially with the ATF part added.

I think however the boyfriend/significant other/manager is just as important too......but not so crude as her having a pimp. But it does show possibilities for other vulnerable situations.

I know of a few ladies I wanted to see in certain areas who had significant others who couldn't or wouldn't do an outcall overnights, didn't want to be seen in public on dinner dates, ......or wouldn't book multihour unless it was incall only with a room attached to it.

[Alexis_Summers]

So is everyone here saying you wont see ladies that have S/O's? We can't have a life outside the hobby and now our SO'S are taking our money & being called Pimps? Wtf is wrong with you people.. we are human to and can have a man just as easily as all of u can have wives.

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by Alexis_Summers

So is everyone here saying you wont see ladies that have S/O's? We can't have a life outside the hobby and now our SO'S are taking our money & being called Pimps? Wtf is wrong with you people.. we are human to and can have a man just as easily as all of u can have wives.

For me it is a matter of safety and preference. Doesn't matter whether they are profiting financially from her clients or not, although I recognize that distinction. But on the other hand, many ladies truly have pimps and hide under the guise of it being a "boyfriend", so how are we to know?

But which do I feel is safer? A lady who has a possibly unstable emotional guy involved in her personal life and knows about her hobbly, and more importantly knows about me, and who may go ballistic at anytime (which has happened), or a lady that does not?

Also, I don't like the possibility of eating his creampies and any viruses it may contain. I'm not saying you would do it, but both ladies, and SO's have admitted to it happening before.

[shorty]

So guys what do you do if you know and she says she has a BF/SO but doesn't travel with her? Would you still see her if she's her own person that does what she wants and makes all the decisions in the hobby? There are many ladies that will do multihr incall/outcall sessions and will even do the overnighter but still has the BF/SO to come home too.

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by Alexis_Summers

So is everyone here saying you wont see ladies that have S/O's? We can't have a life outside the hobby and now our SO'S are taking our money & being called Pimps? Wtf is wrong with you people.. we are human to and can have a man just as easily as all of u can have wives.

Some are just more paranoid than the others. Most fucktards are too lazy to research a provider thoroughly to see if she is managed. SO/BF does not necessarily mean pimped, or managed. Nor does it mean any bb activities, most women I know do not allow bb until there is a ring on the finger.

[DallasRain]

Originally Posted by pyramider

SO/BF does not necessarily mean pimped, or managed. Nor does it mean any bb activities, most women I know do not allow bb until there is a ring on the finger.

well said!!!

[bigdog0311]

Originally Posted by gimme_that

If you found out your ATF had a pimp, would you continue to see her.

Let's says she is independent an advertises as such.........she never give an hint or reason that she might have a pimp in any capacity. The sessions have been all great. And you never see or hear from him on multiple occasions when you have met her

But later it is brought to you attention that she is pimped and is in fact part of a stable. Would you continue to see her. Explain why.

Yes I would, reason being, if she is my ATF, then we not only have great, GFE sessions, but it is "comfortable" fun and she treats me like I am glad I am a man, not like I am a wallet, (something many providers need to learn, but that is another thread subject), I am not, nor will I ever be, captain "save-a-ho" so I am not looking for a gf and I do not give a shit what she does with the money when I leave after the session.

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by shorty

So guys what do you do if you know and she says she has a BF/SO but doesn't travel with her? Would you still see her if she's her own person that does what she wants and makes all the decisions in the hobby? There are many ladies that will do multihr incall/outcall sessions and will even do the overnighter but still has the BF/SO to come home too.

The whole part about her having a boyfriend is none of my business. I won't ask but if she feels I'm privy to that info she must feel comfortable with me to some extent. Whether or not she has a boyfriend is not my concern.....my concern is possible interaction. Does he know what she does?, Is he directly iinvolved dropping her off in front my outcall giving her a kiss goodnite, etc?.

Again whether she has a boyfriend or not won't affect my decision to see her or the session physically. If he is directly tied to her hobby life then it much different. A similar situation is if the provider has kids......for my own personal benefit Ill still see ladies who have kids, but I know sometimes prebooking or booking multihours on short notice for ladies who have kids isn't an option. I know to some extent there is a little error of doubt that she may have to cancel due to a family issue, baby sitter, etc.

Usually though for boyfriends........there's two types:

1. The provider who is in a relationship, but never really reveals her status like that.....keeping business and personal life separate. This is what I prefer, but sometimes during pillowtalk ladies reveal this, its a comfortability thing and I definitely never ask.

The x factor is whether one of these is the issue.
A. Her boyfriend doesn't know. (Potentially bad situation,
but at least she is discreet.)
B. Boyfriend knows. (Way too many scenarios, especially he is directly involved in her hobby.)

Potential disadvantages for me if her boyfriend knows:

1. He knows my info too. Maybe he's the "he's safe call."

2. He knows my outcall right down to the address, maybe he dropped her off, kissed her goodbye right before she got out of car.

3. At her incall he's probably very close, maybe in the adjorning room and probably has a key.

4. He drives for her....same as above. "Have fun at work babe, I love you. Now go fuck his brains out.....Ill be waiting. Save a little for ya man"

5. The daty thing would be an issue and I like daty. But knowing potentially that they may be having unprotected sex regularly, Id rather not want to have to fathom it.

6. To a certain extent (not me) I think a lot of guys are a little unnerved that they are cheating on their spouses, and the prospect of seeing a provider who has a boyfriend seems like overkill for they subconscious in their own individual infidelity.



Either of these I won't know. But when you ask for certain types of meets such as an overnight an she tell you strickly incall only or only for a small amont of hours less than four....., or you inquire about a dinner date and she prefers not to, I'm assumming one of these is an issue......and probably the first option.

[MrGiz]

Originally Posted by gimme_that

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6. To a certain extent (not me) I think a lot of guys are a little unnerved that they are cheating on their spouses, and the prospect of seeing a provider who has a boyfriend seems like overkill for they subconscious in their own individual infidelity. . . . .

I think you may have hit a nerve on that one!