should i allow a refund?

[London Rayne]

Since I have 2 rates for gfe and pse if a person wants greek and we don't go there, he will get that extra back...yes to scenario 2, no to 1.

[guest032413]

Originally Posted by Ginger Doll

The escort industry isn't a great place for weak personalities. You have to have the ability to be assertive. Toughen up, stand up for yourself and learn to say NO.

All you're doing now is making excuses for guys that are shitting on you. You're giving them your permission to do it by publically justifying their behavior.

Well the thing is I do say no and its actully hurting me because most of my first time appointments want a discount and I say no and they cancel...and I did say no when asked for a refund and he gave me a look like I was a bitch. That's why I asked publicly to see if other ladies allow refunds and I was the only one not and I wanted to see what the men had to say about it.

[guest032413]

Originally Posted by petiteassman

3 reviews. you had reviews at 120 hr 150 hr 160 hr and 100 for hh. your now charging 150 hh and 200 hr so you have ajusted your rates to what you think is fair so what would the problem be. if you think they are still too low raise them if you feel they got too high lower them.

A few months back I did offer those rates because no one was really willing to see me since I registerd on eccie a yr ago and have not been active due to a few very generous clients and with me not having any reviews I thought it would help. I didn't know it would haunt me and just become a problem later. Now I have to deal with all these problems.
I know eventually this will get better because I know I provide excellent service.
To help I am currrently building a website and preparing for more profesional pictures.
Maybe that will help it just takes time, looks like I will have to crawl before I walk.

[anaximander]

Seriously, it's not like you killed anyone.
I think the critique has been overly harsh.
You're a considerate person in an overall
inconsiderate business.
As I see it the only one really screwed
are the CBLD's and chiselers that have
in all likelihood burnt their bridges
to a woman like you.
All businesses take some time to find
their level- I see no reason this wouldn't
apply to providers as well.

It's not how well you start,
it's how well you finish.

[Yerassman]

+1

[guest043013-2]

Originally Posted by Kandy Kelly

Well the thing is I do say no and its actully hurting me because most of my first time appointments want a discount and I say no and they cancel...and I did say no when asked for a refund and he gave me a look like I was a bitch. That's why I asked publicly to see if other ladies allow refunds and I was the only one not and I wanted to see what the men had to say about it.

Kandy,

Stand your ground. I think Ginger is correct, this is not a place to be if you don't have a thick skin. I haven't met you, can't speak to your talents BCD, but you are a pretty lady, reviews are good, so go with what you are comfortable with: That includes rates, services, screening, etc. Don't let any of us hard asses talk you into anything different.

You might find that these types of questions are best asked & answered in the ladies only forums.

TC

[Sweet N Little]

Originally Posted by tigercat

Kandy,

Stand your ground. I think Ginger is correct, this is not a place to be if you don't have a thick skin. I haven't met you, can't speak to your talents BCD, but you are a pretty lady, reviews are good, so go with what you are comfortable with: Tha includes rates, services, screening, etc. Don't let any of us hard asses talk you into anything different.

You might find that these types of questions are best asked & answered in the ladies only forums.

TC

+1 I agree...
You should get powder room access KK, pm the mods requesting it

[guest043013-2]

Originally Posted by Sweet N Little

+1 I agree...
You should get powder room access KK, pm the mods requesting it

Is it a bad thing when SNL agrees with me?

[Sweet N Little]

Originally Posted by tigercat

Is it a bad thing when SNL agrees with me?

lol I hope it's a good thing
KK has received a lot of good advise here

[sketchball82]

Originally Posted by Sweet N Little

+1 I agree...
You should get powder room access KK, pm the mods requesting it

Powder room? LOLOL! That made me laugh.

So... seriously? Powder room? ;p

[Sweet N Little]

Originally Posted by sketchball82

Powder room? LOLOL! That made me laugh.

So... seriously? Powder room? ;p

Yep...ladies only....just like the men's locker room

[guest032413]

I already have acess to the powder room but I was intrested on hearing what the men on this board thought about this topic. I agree I have gotted pleanty of great advise thank you all.
And it seems I have attracted some nicer gentlemen since I posted this topic.
I'm sure it will all get better over time.

[CajunGent]

Kandy,

I appreciate your question, and hopefully with all the post, there will be the answer that best fits the personality you are trying to establish/maintain.

On Option #1. The gentleman has reserved time with you, and has elected on his own accord not to utilize the time. No refund of funds should be expected.

On Option #2. The gentleman has reserved time with the expectation of the providing of certain activities. However, because of his inability to achieve proper blood pressure equiliburum he is unable to take advantage of the offering of the fruit. There is no "requirement" of a refund on your part.

However, let me paint this picture. If you were to take your car into a locally owned auto shop for a tune up right after buying the automobile. And, when you return, the chief mechanic advises you that he reduced the price of the tune up because two of your spark plugs looked brand new and did not need changing. And, the oil filter also looked brand new. You would be grateful, and probably trust this man with your car. The motto of the story, is that the mechanic has learned to identify the quality client that he wants to attract, and he went the extra mile to earn your future business. The same holds in your business. Quality repeat clients are worth more to you than one time visitors. You will need to judge for yourself which each client was, and what value you place on his patronage. Sometimes a little bit of give will be rewarded later on.... Only you can be the judge of that.

Hope the above helps.

[OldGrump]

Kandy, I didn't read through all of the replies so if I repeat something that has been said, mark it up as a vote in that direction.

First of all, you aren't losing business because you won't give a first time discount. You are simply not scheduling with a cheapskate. There are plenty out there so don't worry about your rates.

In your first scenario, you set aside 2 hours for the client & that is what he should pay for. He could have chosen to stay & chat, cuddle, or just admire your eyes but he chose to leave. Spend his donation with a clear conscience.

In the second scenario, it is about the same. You could charge less if you wanted, but you can't control his response to other activities or the inability to be young again. I guess, if you felt generous, you could offer a little extra time on the next visit.

I've had sessions where I couldn't fire. The last thing I would think of is a refund. I just thank the provider for her lovely efforts and apologize for any frustration. That is my problem - not hers.

Good luck. There are plenty of great guys in Dallas and if there are some you don't see, you aren't missing much. From some of their posts, many are best avoided.

[PJ1964]

1st this may not have much credibility to it due to me starting what I did with Naomi "publicly ", bur id still like to reiterate that KK is a sweet and thoughtful woman for being worried about what other people think of her concerning her initial post that started this thread. She wants to provide. She wants to be good and do good. Like many of you have said, apparently she's on the path to finding her niche. What works best for her and attracts fewer male headaches/head cases.
KK, you'll get there. You'll find YOUR place/clientele. Keep your head up and your good character in tacked. Don't let this lifestyle or some clients in said lifestyle cause you to forget who YOU are. YOU'RE the most important person in your efforts to make this fruitful for you. Stick with it. Just stay you. Good luck to ya.