The USA Could Fix The Illegal Immigration Problem With One Law

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by DSK

Yes, the welfare state definitely needs a serious reform, as does the bloated war industry, but what is your beef with the Fed?

It is the greatest source of free money ever invented.

Fed destroys the value of the dollar, its largely responsible for inflationary increases since its creation. its also a serial currency manipulator and we accuse china of manipulating their Yuan.

[Revenant]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Yes, you can.

Many CEO's are compensated with salaries that are incomprehensible to most.

With that come the ultimate responsibility of obeying the law.

No, you CAN'T.

That is just some wealth-envious progressive's idiotic wet dream.

High compensation doesn't justify putting someone in jail for someone's else misdeed.

You are kind of violating about - oh, let me see - 600 or 700 YEARS of Anglo-American jurisprudence.

All felony statutes that can result in prison have a mens rea requirement - a state-of-mind of actually knowing or having reckless disregard for some element of the crime.

The sole exception is statutory rape. If a 16 year old shows you perfect fake ID that says she is 19, you still go to jail even though she deceived you.

Any crime that has absolute liability - like your company negligently dumping waste in a river because your equipment was old and no properly serviced - results only in financial penalties.

Any attempt by a legislature to impose a felony jail sentence for the actions of others will almost certainly be struck down by the courts as unconstitutional - perhaps denial of due process or cruel and unusual punishment.

And - besides the legality - think about this: who in his right mind would EVER take a job as a head of a company if he knew he could go to jail for the actions of every employee in the company? NO compensation could justify that. Would you agree to be the head of a 50,000 employee company - like Ford or GM - if you knew that a minor foreman that sexually assaults an underling could get you thrown in prison for a decade?

The economy would collapse overnight. No competent, thinking person would take a job having any responsibility. Only reckless degenerates would agree to run that risk.

[nevergaveitathought]

Why didn't a "comprehensive" immigration law get passed?

A new law, as proposed by the op, to "solve" illegal immigration won't work

Law, any law, requires fidelity to it for it to matter

Comprehensive immigration reform couldn't get done because no one trusted obama to enforce the half he wouldn't like and the other half of the law would only make things worse

Now you may think some law targeting whitey would have a better chance at being enforced when the lawless left is empowered but I think not. It's all about the effect my friends.

The only thing that will ever work is proper enforcement by impartial arbiters. its all about the person. That's why jeff sessions is revered. He follows the law. Obama and Holder followed their own feelings

It's the same reason gorsuch was and is hated by the left, he follows the law

America is imperiled by the enemy within. It's not fanciful to think so

Obama et al scheme around laws or ignore them, they are perfidious my friends

[WTF]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

That's why jeff sessions is revered. He follows the law.

Revered by the KKK!

Just becuse he is not going to go after states that enact new Jim Crow laws does not mean he is universally revered. Just revered by old white racists.


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[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by WTF

revered
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I put that word in there just for you

[WTF]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

I put that word in there just for you

And here I thought you put it in for your fellow Klansmen...

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by WTF

And here I thought you put it in for your fellow Klansmen...

your thinking is why you are always wrong

[DSK]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

Why didn't a "comprehensive" immigration law get passed?

A new law, as proposed by the op, to "solve" illegal immigration won't work

Law, any law, requires fidelity to it for it to matter

Comprehensive immigration reform couldn't get done because no one trusted obama to enforce the half he wouldn't like and the other half of the law would only make things worse

Now you may think some law targeting whitey would have a better chance at being enforced when the lawless left is empowered but I think not. It's all about the effect my friends.

The only thing that will ever work is proper enforcement by impartial arbiters. its all about the person. That's why jeff sessions is revered. He follows the law. Obama and Holder followed their own feelings

It's the same reason gorsuch was and is hated by the left, he follows the law

America is imperiled by the enemy within. It's not fanciful to think so

Obama et al scheme around laws or ignore them, they are perfidious my friends

Very good post and illustrates why Obama is so hated by freedom loving constitutionalists, whom WTF tends to dishonor by calling them old white racists.

[DSK]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

Fed destroys the value of the dollar, its largely responsible for inflationary increases since its creation. its also a serial currency manipulator and we accuse china of manipulating their Yuan.

What is so bad about a little inflation, other than it helps WTF sell his monstrosities?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by DSK

Very good post and illustrates why Obama is so hated by freedom loving constitutionalists, whom WTF tends to dishonor by calling them old white racists.

I dishonor. ..

Old white Civil War constitutionalists still waving the Rebel Flag!





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[DSK]

Originally Posted by WTF

I dishonor. ..

Old white Civil War constitutionalists still waving the Rebel Flag!

Since I do not wave the Rebel flag, I'm not the target of your attacks, in that case.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by DSK

Since I do not wave the Rebel flag, I'm not the target of your attacks, in that case.

But do you support these new Jim Crow laws??????


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[WTF]

Originally Posted by DSK

Since I do not wave the Rebel flag, I'm not the target of your attacks, in that case.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by WTF

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why are you hi jacking the thread?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

America is imperiled by the enemy within. It's not fanciful to think so

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Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

why are you hi jacking the thread?

Why did you?

The enemy is not hard working immigrants ....it is bigiots and ignorance. Always has been.


https://cei.org/blog/adam-smiths-rec...al-immigration
Unfortunately, as Smith notes, the man of the system “is often so enamoured with the supposed beauty of his own ideal plan of government that he cannot suffer the smallest deviation from any part of it.” Thus, when human beings act in accordance with their own plans -- when they drink alcohol, eat fatty foods, or fail to recycle -- the legislature decides to “double down.” But, again as Smith point out, if the legislature ignores the principle of motion of his subjects, “the game of society will go on miserably, and the society must be at all times in the highest degree of disorder.”
U.S. immigration policy has followed exactly this pattern. Congress sought to engineer the international market for labor, and it failed. Its “chess pieces” acted in accordance with their own principles. Instead of recognizing its mistake, Congress determined it just wasn’t trying hard enough. It decided what it needed was even more control over the pieces, so it built walls, added guards, required surveillance by employers and landlords and spent more and more on detention facilities. Today, America spends $18 billion each year on immigration enforcement. Yet, it is not enough.
Smith argued in The Wealth of Nations the high tariffs have “in many cases, served only to encourage smuggling, and, in all cases, have reduced the revenues of the customs below what more moderate duties would have afforded.” As in the case of immigration policy, Smith argued a high tariff on trade “offers a great temptation to smuggling,” but “the law, contrary to all the ordinary principles of justice, first creates the temptation and then punishes those who yield to it.”
In such cases, Smith recommended smuggling could be eliminated “by diminishing the temptation to smuggle,” which “can be diminished only by the lowering of the tax.” America does not tax immigration, but the effect of the limited numbers issued is the same: People are smuggled into the United States sometimes at great cost and danger to themselves. Smith argued a lower tariff would increase the revenues to government, eliminate smuggling and benefit the country through lower prices


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