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Old 11-17-2021, 06:49 PM   #91
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thats not at all reality

"infections" doesn't mean what you think it means
"vaccine" doesn't stop spread, transmission or lethality.
The latest research out of Israel is showing that fully vaccinated people can spread Covid even though they are showing no symptoms.
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Old 11-17-2021, 07:15 PM   #92
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The latest research out of Israel is showing that fully vaccinated people can spread Covid even though they are showing no symptoms.



Israel's research isn't driven by woke bullshit. it's driven by pure research. and it's blowing up the woke narrative of reporting here.
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Old 11-17-2021, 07:29 PM   #93
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Thank you wise people...read my signature lol n omg n wtf

Yes I do say so dah. I'm through with my few minutes of playing on here today. I'm going to get back to enjoying my life
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Old 11-18-2021, 03:16 AM   #94
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The latest research out of Israel is showing that fully vaccinated people can spread Covid even though they are showing no symptoms.
I said the same thing in post #84.
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Old 11-18-2021, 03:29 AM   #95
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Do you believe that those in power are telling you the absolute truth?
so much so, that you're unwilling to recognize any other information?

Do you believe those in power have your best interest at heart?

Do you believe the government has never lied to its citizens?


if you have answered YES to any of these questions, I have an escort you'd love to meet for a $300 deposit
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Old 11-18-2021, 05:24 AM   #96
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/a/ - please post your source reference.for teh above.
The break through deaths has increased a little to 7,000.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-data-n1281786
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Old 11-18-2021, 07:15 AM   #97
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Thank you - 'a'
7K - is a bit more than 2.4 k deaths

The reference quotes CDC - but provides no link to the CDC site, and teh link goes to another NBC post.



Still - i am not arguing about the protective effect of vaccination on severe disease from wuhan virus infection , and reduced death rate.

the numbers of wuhan virus infections - I have questioned from day 1 - for good reasons. Asymptomatic infections not counted, hospital bias in reporting- which renders reporting numbers suspect.
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Old 11-18-2021, 09:27 AM   #98
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Oh and now pisher doesn't have to "show the research till 2075 per fda Hmm interesting
And all for .02 death rate when most flu years are .015 ? very interesting we are losing sovereignty over are bodies why ,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Old 11-18-2021, 02:56 PM   #99
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And all for .02 death rate when most flu years are .015 ? very interesting we are losing sovereignty over are bodies why ,,,,,,,,,,,,
SARS-CoV-2 is easier to catch and kills more people than Influenza_A. It's not even close.

In 2010-2011 flu season there was 10 milllion cases and 37,000 deaths. From Feb 2020 - Dec 31,2020 SARS-CoV-2 killed 475,000 with 35 million infections. Flu probably has a lower death rate than what is above. One thing for sure SARS-CoV-2 infects and kills more people over the same time period. Flu has never killed 400,000 people in one year.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2010-2011.html
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Old 11-18-2021, 04:58 PM   #100
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The whole Pandemic thing is confusing. Somehow i don't think we (any of us) have access to the whole truth about any of it.

At this point, who really cares if it came from a lab in China (I think it did)? What matters is what will happen going forward and what we will do . . .or be able to do.

First we were told to not wear a mask, but wash everything abd fist-bump hello . . .and all that has changed back and forth several times.

I got vaccinated when I could and got the third booster shot when I could. Turns out it isn't actually a vaccine in the classical sense or as Louis Pasture discovered it. Not like the Polio vaccine or the vaccines for Mumps, Measles, whooping Cough etc. Rather it is (as I understand it) a recently developed gene therapy .

And It doesn't keep us from being infected or passing it along to others either. It does seem to diminish the symptoms when you do get infected. Most younger people cn shake it off. Most older people die from it or complications from it.

People who survive the virus were said to then have "Natural Immunity". Now I am seeing stories that contradict that, with pandemic survivors being re-infected and sick for a second time. And because of the outright lying bout mask wearing (do we mask-up or not?) I don't know what to believe from any source.

It is not clear to me what therapy protocols work. We are told many things do work in some cases and we are told that these same therapies are quackery. Some doctors with serious credentials sware that what they are doing saves lives. Doctors with more credentials say these treatments do not work . . .but they are not treating patients, they are "officials" of one sort or another.
Biden had a virtual summit with his good buddy Xi this week. The subject of Covid culpability did not come up.

What does that tell you?
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Old 11-18-2021, 07:59 PM   #101
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Biden had a virtual summit with his good buddy Xi this week. The subject of Covid culpability did not come up.

What does that tell you?

that Xi had some of his commie lackeys buy a few of Hunter's "Picasso paintings" for a couple mil and Biden knows it. both of them.
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Old 11-19-2021, 07:55 AM   #102
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I said the same thing in post #84.
I am pro vaccination.

I lived through the Polio scare of the army 1950’s. I was there when we all got the Salk vaccine and then the Sabin. I got the small pox vaccine, which was mandated. We had several kids in our elementary school die of whooping cough. Hell yes we took that vaccine when it became available.

When I went overseas in the Army, I was vaccinated against every known ailment they had a vaccine for.

I have taken the Shingles shot, and the “old people’s pneumonia” shot.

My gripe is that sorry piece of shit we have in the Whitehouse is so beholding to China that he will not even come out and admit that those sorry bastards unleashed this plague on the entire world, and just might do it again.

Who will stop them?

Every time I see Biden on TV, all I think is…..How did that old, senile, stupid, lying, inept, corrupt piece of shit get to be President?
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Old 11-19-2021, 10:11 AM   #103
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Old 11-19-2021, 03:49 PM   #104
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Every time I see Biden on TV, all I think is…..How did that old, senile, stupid, lying, inept, corrupt piece of shit get to be President?
More people thought, he would serve the USA, better than the old, senile, stupid, lying, inept, corrupt piece of shit who had won the previous election.

Pretty obvious. More people wanted Biden over Trump.
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Old 11-19-2021, 11:37 PM   #105
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And still do.
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