Newbie discrimination

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe

Just because someone has p411 doesn't mean that providers still don't screen you.. when I have p411 I still asked for phone number & email & still contacted there references...

P411 doesn't prove anything besides that you pay for a membership.. It sure as hell doesn't prove that you're not LE or could still be a Fucktard.. So before giving advice you may want to make sure it's correct..

Being a newbie he will still run into problems trying to get someone to see him because he won't have any okay's.. He will still have to search for newbie friendly providers..

P411 does not screen you that's what alot of people don't understand... It's basically there so you don't have to keep sending your information over & over...

If the provider truly screens you will still have to provide additional information...

Btw... Yes I am Donald Trump Of Eccie & Im Proud...

Dorthy Trump Monroe

My advice to Pokey is sound. No P411 provider has asked me for additional information, except for my cell phone number (for my pre-paid service "hobby phone"), so we could call/text. No one has volunteered that she actually contacted anyone who okay'ed me in the past, although it wouldn't surprise me if that has happened.

Agreed, P411 doesn't really screen, except to verify phone numbers and employment, which presumably could be faked by LE. And from your perspective, a client with no okays could be an accident waiting to happen. However, you vastly overestimate the diligence and wisdom of your sisters in the business. Apparently they're lazier than you are.

Pokey, My guess is a significant % of women on P411 will see you without any O.K.'s, probably less than 50%, but more than 20%. If you're afraid of rejection from a woman who you're going to pay for sex, then seek out women on P411 that advertise as newbie friendly, or who also advertise on Backpage.

[samantha thom]

I have given a few newbies a chance before and started screening them. A lot of them ended up wasting my time asking me a bunch of questions, emailing back and forth asking this and that without end since they are not familiar with the hobby etiquette…asking more pictures, face pics, my rates, etc. Ugh..I just don't have time to babysit. A few of them who didn't bombard me with emails, after I approved to see them and set up a date, 100% of them all of a sudden got cold feet. So 100% of newbies who contacted me ended up wasting my time. I decided to not give newbies any more chances. Sorry.

[Guest021217]

Originally Posted by Tiny

My advice to Pokey is sound. No P411 provider has asked me for additional information, except for my cell phone number (for my pre-paid service "hobby phone"), so we could call/text. No one has volunteered that she actually contacted anyone who okay'ed me in the past, although it wouldn't surprise me if that has happened.

Agreed, P411 doesn't really screen, except to determine a person is who he says he is and works where he says he does. And from your perspective, a client with no okays could be an accident waiting to happen. However, you vastly overestimate the diligence and wisdom of your sisters in the business. Apparently they're lazier than you are.

Pokey, My guess is a significant % of women on P411 will see you without any O.K.'s, probably less than 50%, but more than 20%. If you're afraid of rejection from a woman who you're going to pay for sex, then seek out women on P411 that advertise as newbie friendly, or who also advertise on Backpage.

Lazy = Extreme risk

Work verification is easy to fake so that doesn't ease my mind...

They may have never asked you for any additional information but that doesn't mean another person won't be asked... You can only speak for yourself & im sure you have more than 5 okay's so really his situation isn't a comparison

[MaxiMilyen]

Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe

Choke on pubes pffft please I don't choke sorry especially on dick...

You may polish knobs but I make them dissappear...

Wow! Really? I have never ever heard of any other woman with such a gift. I am so envious! I bet you could make tons of money teaching us all something new and different. Got any videos?

[cowboy8055]

Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe

Just because someone has p411 doesn't mean that providers still don't screen you.. when I have p411 I still asked for phone number & email & still contacted there references...

P411 does not screen you that's what alot of people don't understand... It's basically there so you don't have to keep sending your information over & over...

You're not the only provider that will not rely only on p411. Lots will still screen or at least require references. p411 is not some universal golden key that automatically opens all doors. I think its overrated myself. It may benefit someone with zero ref's but that's about it. If you can drum up a couple ref's you really don't need p411.

p411 does do some screening unless you can provide 2 acceptable ref's and show long standing membership in a escort related community.

[cowboy8055]

Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe

Btw... Yes I am Donald Trump Of Eccie & Im Proud...

Dorthy Trump Monroe

You just went up in my book

[Guest021217]

Originally Posted by MaxiMilyen

Wow! Really? I have never ever heard of any other woman with such a gift. I am so envious! I bet you could make tons of money teaching us all something new and different. Got any videos?

Videos pffft please this isn't how to DT a winky through a educational video.. I have an amazing gift & I don't show or tell my secrets...

Only those who have seen me know about my hocus pocus..

Use that search button & educate yourself with my exceptional skills..

[Guest021217]

Originally Posted by cowboy8055

You just went up in my book

Thanks

I also agree with your views as far as p411 & that's why I no longer use it..

[SknyDiva]

How about you do doubles with me and Dorothy Monroe? That should give you a great reference. You game Dorothy? Throat punches and all ;-)~

[pairofhearts33]

There is not an exact formula as everyone states or imply.
Safety like many said. I am not a newbie, lol but at times I feel like one.
Been in hobby way too long, off and on as I see it.

There are many reasons on refs or lack of. Some guys prefer to stay utr and so to speak not be in the limelight so to speak. Doesn't mean they are bad just can't be screened well.
I send mine but rather use screening site. No system is really 100 percent perfect.
I have heard stories on gals telling me she screened a hobby dude example just fine and ladies said he was okay when she pm the gals that saw him, Turned out that wasn't the case.

For me with less refs, I stick to a few and see them quite a bit which I look back and go wow I saw her ALOT lol, no regrets. Hey, why change if everything is going well with a gal is my point of view. I def know other guys may see it much differently.

All the dates I have been screened painless have been fantastic. The ones I can't screened no harm.. What might have been or could have been many dates just never happened. You move on and find someone else.

[Guest021217]

Originally Posted by SknyDiva

How about you do doubles with me and Dorothy Monroe? That should give you a great reference. You game Dorothy? Throat punches and all ;-)~

Hell yes

[cowboy8055]

I would think references are the best way to go. At least that way a lady can communicate with someone who has actually seen the guy in question.

[Guest021217]

Originally Posted by cowboy8055

I would think references are the best way to go. At least that way a lady can communicate with someone who has actually seen the guy in question.

Thats the point of references lol

[traveler_]

Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe

Hell yes

Originally Posted by SknyDiva

How about you do doubles with me and Dorothy Monroe? That should give you a great reference. You game Dorothy? Throat punches and all ;-)~

Let me know when this happens, I might would fly in for that

[cowboy8055]

Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe

Thats the point of references lol

Ya, I kinda stated the obvious LOL