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09-25-2011, 08:57 PM
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#91
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Join Date: Oct 7, 2010
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Originally Posted by gnadfly
BTW Race Baiter Doove most if not all appear to be wearing the Flag lapel pin.
To those who don't remember, Barack "Hoover" Obama REFUSED to wear the flag pin.
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I don't even know what a flag pin is, and to be honest, I didn't lose any sleep over it.
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09-25-2011, 09:00 PM
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#92
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: South of Chicago
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Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
yer busted! that was the shot before the pledge.
all candidates had their hand on the heart.
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Good show Dilbert!
BTW, Perry and Paul were entitled to render a military salute if they had chosen to do so.
Per public law: “all persons present in uniform should render the military salute. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute. All other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, or if applicable, remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Citizens of other countries present should stand at attention. All such conduct toward the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes.”
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09-25-2011, 09:01 PM
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#93
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Join Date: Dec 23, 2009
Location: Central Texas
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Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
big tex started with a misleading picture with a premise that rick perry is a socialist.
wouldn't hurt to call him out on his fakery.
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Perhaps I should be calling dilbert firestorm out for his "fakery!" Dilbert needs to check his sources prior to opening mouth and inserting foot! Fact: BT has not posted any pictures in this entire thread, misleading or otherwise.
Instead I will humbly travel the high road and accept dilbert's apology in advance!
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09-25-2011, 09:19 PM
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#94
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Professional Tush Hog.
Join Date: Mar 27, 2009
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
You must live in Mexico.
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Nope, in a moderate sized town in East Texas. Plenty of folks here have kids that join. I just don't know them. They're poor folks, or in a few cases working class folks. It would be interesting to see, but I'll bet that the percentage of military recruits where both parents have four year college degrees is extremely small (probably less than 5%). When you get to folks who have both parents who have professional or graduate degrees, probably half the people I rub shoulders with, it gets even smaller and almost disappears to nothing.
I'll take it that you aren't old enough to remember the great lengths that wealthy kids generally went to to avoid the draft in Vietnam. The lengths that Universities went to to expand admissions and keep kids from flunking out to keep them at home. The way university attendance dropped like a rock when the draft was ended and folks didn't have to worry about being sent to fight a senseless war that we were loosing hand over fist.
But make no mistake. The upper class learned it's lessons from Vietnam. There's a reason that you don't see a single member of the Bush clan joining up even though Shrub was claiming his two wars were "existential war" for our way of life. That would have been inconceivable in WWII. Of course, it wasn't an "existential" war, they were needless wars of choice and the chicken hawks' kids probably wouldn't have joined had they been real wars.
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09-25-2011, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TexTushHog
I'll take it that you aren't old enough to remember the great lengths that wealthy kids generally went to to avoid the draft in Vietnam.
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Smells of exploits by Slick Willie.
Bigtex will probably disagree with you on losing the war in Vietnam. The American GI did not lose that war in Vietnam. A myopic liberal press, and spoiled rich kids forfeited that war on the evening news.
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09-25-2011, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by katinsa
Mr. Doove, I would say let me spell it out for you but I already did. Simply responding to your comments. So, from what I have seen so far is that everyone who disagrees with you is either stupid or ignorant or you don't understand what they are talking about. Oh, and excuse me, Mr Gore said "I took the initiative in creating the internret" speaking to W. Blitzer. If what I have read is correct the internet was already up and running before Mr Gore was elected to office. I suppose if Obama can accept an Noble Peace Prize for having done nothing but talk then I suppose Mr Gore can take credit for creating something that already existed! It is the liberal way, take things from those who do and give it to those who don't. It is such a shame that the Peace Prize didn't go to someone who truly worked hard and did the things to earn it.
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The arrogance of ignorance.
Educate yourself. Ignorance can be fixed. Stupidity can't.
Prove which you suffer from when you post.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
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09-25-2011, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
Smells of exploits by Slick Willie.
Bigtex will probably disagree with you on losing the war in Vietnam. The American GI did not lose that war in Vietnam. A myopic liberal press, and spoiled rich kids forfeited that war on the evening news.
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Slick Willie the Rhodes Scholar?
Never realized there were that many spoiled rich kids across the country. And that damn liberal press. Printing the truth damn it! Who do they think they are?
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09-25-2011, 10:01 PM
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Join Date: Dec 23, 2009
Location: Central Texas
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
Smells of exploits by Slick Willie.
Bigtex will probably disagree with you on losing the war in Vietnam. The American GI did not lose that war in Vietnam. A myopic liberal press, and spoiled rich kids forfeited that war on the evening news.
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I will agree that the "American GI did not lose that war in Vietnam."
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09-25-2011, 10:02 PM
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Join Date: Dec 19, 2009
Location: Buffalo NY
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Originally Posted by gnadfly
To those who don't remember, Barack "Hoover" Obama REFUSED to wear the flag pin. I'm sure the Race Baiter remembers.
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I think you have him confused with the Republican guy.
Or maybe Ron Paul, Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich.
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09-25-2011, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by waverunner234
Your post only shows how stupid you are, don't you have it together yet?
Smart people don't serve in the army, they don't have time for that.
They go to high school, then college, get a masters degree and spend the rest of their life becoming rich and tell stupid guys like you to join the army because that's the most honorable thing you can do.
Would they ever join the army themselves? No way!
Why not?
Because they are smart.
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now I am really offended by these comments
Cpt Retired USAR and I have a master's degree and I was a distinguish military grad and if I had known at the time,that was equivalent to a West Point commission I might have stayed in then it would be USA retired
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09-25-2011, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bigtex
I will agree that the "American GI" did not lose that war in Vietnam!
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your right, it was the democratic congress who refused to give the VN even bullets to fight their own war. Every VN I meet I apologize to them
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09-25-2011, 10:41 PM
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#102
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Join Date: May 3, 2011
Location: Out of a suitcase
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Originally Posted by waverunner234
Your post only shows how stupid you are, don't you have it together yet?
Smart people don't serve in the army, they don't have time for that.
They go to high school, then college, get a masters degree and spend the rest of their life becoming rich and tell stupid guys like you to join the army because that's the most honorable thing you can do.
Would they ever join the army themselves? No way!
Why not?
Because they are smart.
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Really smart people might go to West Point, get their masters while performing a real job for 5 years, get out and have the people who are only smart working for them.
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09-25-2011, 10:42 PM
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Location: Buffalo NY
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Originally Posted by cptjohnstone
now I am really offended by these comments
Cpt Retired USAR and I have a master's degree and I was a distinguish military grad and if I had known at the time,that was equivalent to a West Point commission I might have stayed in then it would be USA retired
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I think i'll leave this one alone.
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09-25-2011, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cptjohnstone
your right, it was the democratic congress who refused to give the VN even bullets to fight their own war. Every VN I meet I apologize to them
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You apologize for your ignorance of what lost the war? Even to the people of the former North Viet Nam? If you feel you must.
At the end of the war, there was no one left in their army (South Viet Nam) to give bullets to.
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09-25-2011, 11:04 PM
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Join Date: Jan 4, 2010
Location: Stillwater, OK
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Originally Posted by Munchmasterman
You apologize for your ignorance of what lost the war? Even to the people of the former North Viet Nam? If you feel you must.
At the end of the war, there was no one left in their army (South Viet Nam) to give bullets to.
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my bad, make that SVN
and there were SVN troops to give bullets to
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