You People

[MrGiz]

The April I knew long ago had more class than most of the posters in this entire thread, combined! That is only a fact!

I'm sad to see her reputation questioned. Whatever her reasons are... They are hers, and she's decided to leave this place... C'est la vie!!

[Max Steed]

Originally Posted by pornodave69

Not always. Depends on the context. No different than "y'all" or "you guys" in many cases. (See my "these people" reference above.) However, this doesn't have the appearance of that situation.

That is already understood PD. No need to explain. It's not that complicated.

rfl seemed oblivious to the 'context' of why saying "You people" would seem 'offensive' to some.

I explained to him why 'within' the 'context' of 'this discussion' and why it 'offends'.

[rfl]

Why is it offensive?

[Max Steed]

Originally Posted by Max Steed

"You people," is used to lump a whole culture into one derogatory and racist stereotype.

"You people," is offensive based solely on its premise.




+1

Originally Posted by rfl

Why is it offensive?

Are you slow?


#context

[rfl]

The point of this thread was that April made a horrible racist comment by saying "you people". My original point was that it's only offensive to you if you chose to see it as offensive. Live your life and stop worrying about race...because if we all did, the power of racism would diminish and each new generation would see less and less and our world would be better. But YOU have to make the change.

[Max Steed]

Originally Posted by rfl

The point of this thread was that April made a horrible racist comment by saying "you people". My original point was that it's only offensive to you if you chose to see it as offensive. Live your life and stop worrying about race...because if we all did, the power of racism would diminish and each new generation would see less and less and our world would be better. But YOU have to make the change.

+1

I'm in complete agreement with you.

[RichardNixon]

Well shit. I was hoping April was back.

[Nicolet]

Funny, you don't know what you had until it's gone. smh

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by pornodave69

Read what I said again.



I did not assume, I said "Just a guess." A guess is an estimation. An assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, in other words, that is treated for the sake of a given discussion as if it were known to be true.



"Many alternative reasons?" Really??? Because "she was off the seen (sic) going all neo-nazi or her white clients have said unless she's NBA they won't keep seeing her or she could have a new beau that says whites only" are logical possibilities why a woman who apparently never had an issue with race before suddenly starts using racial slurs in public and private conversations where none of these people would see those comments?

Someone who never had a problem with race before doesn't just go full blown racist unless some traumatic experience took place. That is a VERY logical GUESS. It's not the "the only (reason) why a white woman who used to see black men but now doesn't and has begun using pseudo-racist terminology" but it makes a lot more sense than a sudden conversion to neo-nazis or other scenarios.




Not always. Depends on the context. No different than "y'all" or "you guys" in many cases. (See my "these people" reference above.) However, this doesn't have the appearance of that situation.

I'll try not to belabor this too long.

The ONLY reason you gave was that some black guy traumatized her and as a result she went racist. And to you that makes sense as the only "guess" and that "maybe" being the reason. So for any black person that is abused or traumatized by a white person we should then be racist against whites? Is that your logical conclusion. Is that really all it takes for a person to become racist is for one person or another race to cause us pain and we should then dislike not just that person but all persons of that race or gender. That's highly illogical.

Seems to make far less sense that if one bad experience caused by one person of some race subsequently causes one to dislike or hate ALL persons of that race then maybe there was either 1) a predisposition toward that attitude anyway or 2) some other event or set of event caused the change in perspective. In order to determine that all black men are "dangerous harmful disgusting" one must believe there is an inherent difference between black and white men, or the presumption would be all men are "dangerous harmful disgusting". Why stop lumping together based on the subcategory of race when gender is likely more appropriate.

Since everyone seems to dismiss that she had a pre-disposition it seems more likely that this change was triggered by something else. Maybe, while she was off the scene(thanks for the correction) she was convinced by whites to dislike black men irrespective of her past experience with them (which did not seem to be an issue). You, however, appear to prefer to dismiss that possibility, even though there are people in this very thread that espouse a similar attitude. Hell, one proudly only sees NBA providers (I presume because he doesn't want to admit to himself that he is actually licking plenty "black nut" cream pie when he goes down on the chicks) and a series of people that pretend that racism and prejudice are either nonexistent or only perpetuated by the minority (as if any of us have anything to gain by doing so).

[golfnpro]

Some people are just looking for a reason to go off, rant or just generally be offended.

I personally don't care what April says, it aint gonna shake me from that taint.

Be offended, or not. Who gives a shit. You can select your partners by whatever criteria you choose, so will I and so apparently will April.

Pro

[pornodave69]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

I'll try not to belabor this too long.

The ONLY reason you gave was that some black guy traumatized her and as a result she went racist. And to you that makes sense as the only "guess" and that "maybe" being the reason. So for any black person that is abused or traumatized by a white person we should then be racist against whites? Is that your logical conclusion. Is that really all it takes for a person to become racist is for one person or another race to cause us pain and we should then dislike not just that person but all persons of that race or gender. That's highly illogical.

No, it's not "highly illogical." I know it from first hand experience when a relative was attacked and almost raped by a black man. Guess what word she started using AFTER that event? If you guessed "the N word" you'd be correct. I had never heard her say that word before, but you can bet she used it a lot in the months following her attack. She's not the only person that I know who has reacted to a crime or another adverse experience in the same manner. While some people may be raised a racists, others become racist based on their personal experiences.

What is illogical, is that someone who never seemed to have an issue before suddenly decides to hang out with a group of racist friends and after a few months becomes racist herself. It's far more likely that a sex worker would experience an assault or a rape than to simply change her circle of friends with attitudes that differ from what hers seemed to be in the very recent past.

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Seems to make far less sense that if one bad experience caused by one person of some race subsequently causes one to dislike or hate ALL persons of that race then maybe there was either 1) a predisposition toward that attitude anyway or 2) some other event or set of event caused the change in perspective. In order to determine that all black men are "dangerous harmful disgusting" one must believe there is an inherent difference between black and white men, or the presumption would be all men are "dangerous harmful disgusting". Why stop lumping together based on the subcategory of race when gender is likely more appropriate.

If "gender is likely more appropriate," wouldn't she hate all men and not one particular race? If gender was the driving force would she have even come back to this profession? Of course not!

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Since everyone seems to dismiss that she had a pre-disposition it seems more likely that this change was triggered by something else. Maybe, while she was off the scene(thanks for the correction) she was convinced by whites to dislike black men irrespective of her past experience with them (which did not seem to be an issue). You, however, appear to prefer to dismiss that possibility, even though there are people in this very thread that espouse a similar attitude. Hell, one proudly only sees NBA providers (I presume because he doesn't want to admit to himself that he is actually licking plenty "black nut" cream pie when he goes down on the chicks) and a series of people that pretend that racism and prejudice are either nonexistent or only perpetuated by the minority (as if any of us have anything to gain by doing so).

I don't "dismiss" your theory, but it is the less logical explanation as I mentioned above.


Obviously, we won't agree on this but IF this is really April Cox then I think it would take more than "new friends" to change her attitude and demeanor in this situation.

[ilovethemgirls68]

Originally Posted by pornodave69

No, it's not "highly illogical." I know it from first hand experience when a relative was attacked and almost raped by a black man. Guess what word she started using AFTER that event? If you guessed "the N word" you'd be correct. I had never heard her say that word before, but you can bet she used it a lot in the months following her attack. She's not the only person that I know who has reacted to a crime or another adverse experience in the same manner. While some people may be raised a racists, others become racist based on their personal experience

I would actually have to agree with this. When I was in college I had a white female neighbor who I really wanted to date. We got along great but the thing was that in her younger years she had experimented with drugs and hung out with some brothers who did drugs etc. and took advantage of her. Even though she knew I was "an straight arrow" as she called it, she just couldn't get past it. The thing is she could never accept responsibility that those guys could have been of ANY race. SHE is the one who made the decision to participate in those activities and hang around those types of individuals. To put ALL black men in the same boat was just wrong. Traumatic events can indeed affect people severely.

Now as far as April is concerned, In my conversations with her she struck me as the type where if she wanted to go NBA, she would go the route of one of my other favorite providers in the area who had a couple of bad experiences and went NBA (Not giving her name). However, she still sees the AA hobbyist who treated her well, she just doesn't take any NEW AA clients. She was still very shaken even talking about the experience last time I saw her.

The person who was posting as April (I still don't really believe it was actually her) had an entirely different demeanor, word usage, sentence structure etc. in her post and the private messages sent, than any previous post I've seen authored by April. That along with the fact that her p411 account was NEVER activated during this time leads me to believe that it wasn't her. Either way, I hope she is safe and doing well.

[rfl]

Want to read something funny? Today in BR backpage, I saw an ad for a black woman who said no blacks. I saw another ad from a white woman who said no whites. But neither said "you people" so nobody cares. Lol. Don't get so offended over how someone phrases something.

[annie@christophers]

YOU FUCKING PEOPLE PEOPLE ARE BORING AGAIN...LOL. (APRIL PROBABLY GOT A BLACK BF...THEY HATE IT IF SEEING OTHER BLK..MIXED..WEll BESIDES 50+ OLE WHITE GUYS) SO WHO CARES...IF NOT RAPED (KILL WHOEVER) LET IT GO.....OH AND DORTHY...I'M 100 PERCENT WHITE...SO PLEASE DO INGAGE...LMAOF...AREN'T YOU MEXICAN OR OF NONE BLK DECENT? WHO KNOWS...BUT NOLA ISN'T QUITE ON BOARD..THAT'S A TEXAS THING....WE BELIEVE IT OR NOT...ACTUALLY. .GET THE FUCK ALONG...AND IF NOT...WE DO NOW... TAKE YOUR CREEPY ASS BACK TO TEXAS...OR STAY...I CAN BUG YA MORE ...(PROMISE CHICKASAW I CAN LOL) XXOO ANNIE: clover?

[ilovethemgirls68]

Originally Posted by annie@christophers

YOU FUCKING PEOPLE PEOPLE ARE BORING AGAIN...LOL. (APRIL PROBABLY GOT A BLACK BF...THEY HATE IT IF SEEING OTHER BLK..MIXED..WEll BESIDES 50+ OLE WHITE GUYS) SO WHO CARES...IF NOT RAPED (KILL WHOEVER) LET IT GO.....OH AND DORTHY...I'M 100 PERCENT WHITE...SO PLEASE DO INGAGE...LMAOF...AREN'T YOU MEXICAN OR OF NONE BLK DECENT? WHO KNOWS...BUT NOLA ISN'T QUITE ON BOARD..THAT'S A TEXAS THING....WE BELIEVE IT OR NOT...ACTUALLY. .GET THE FUCK ALONG...AND IF NOT...WE DO NOW... TAKE YOUR CREEPY ASS BACK TO TEXAS...OR STAY...I CAN BUG YA MORE ...(PROMISE CHICKASAW I CAN LOL) XXOO ANNIE: clover?

Wouldn't it be simpler to just not comment or read it if you're tired of seeing it? Why come more drama?