SURPRISE! The government lied about the CDC approval of the jab too!

[1blackman1]

Seems like he got what he deserved and what he wanted. He’s died on his own terms because of his choices. Good for him. DUMB POWER.

I have about as much empathy for his ilk as I do for someone that ODs on drugs or hangs themselves. Their choice and a fitting end.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Nope. If I cannot be discriminated against if I want to buy a gay wedding cake from Christians, if I cannot be discriminated against because of the color of my skin, my HIV status, or any other number of issues, it should not be permmissable to discriminate against me because I won't take a shot that is marginally effective, experimental, and has deadly side effects.

it's not about current status, it's where this is headed and if you cannot see that, you're willfully ignorant. And you will deserve the society you are going to create.

Here is the difference. A person's refusal to get the COVID vaccine can possibly harm me. None of your other examples will.

The vaccine is highly effective. Until the Delta variant came along the vaccine was 95% effective in preventing a person from catching the virus. Now that percentage is estimated to be about 65%. 65% is greater than 0%. When do you consider a vaccine to not be "experimental"? I would say that months of testing among tens of thousands of people around the world, with continued follow-up studies being done, rather conclusive. And the vaccines do not have deadly side effects. A handful of people have died and millions have been saved.

There are times I support a vaccine mandate and times when I do not. I support it 100% on a cruise ship. I support it in hospitals. I will leave it up to individual companies as to whether or not to mandate the vaccine. Some people will be forced to make a difficult decision -- get the vaccine or walk away from a job.

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Here is the difference. A person's refusal to get the COVID vaccine can possibly harm me. None of your other examples will.

The vaccine is highly effective. Until the Delta variant came along the vaccine was 95% effective in preventing a person from catching the virus. Now that percentage is estimated to be about 65%. 65% is greater than 0%. When do you consider a vaccine to not be "experimental"? I would say that months of testing among tens of thousands of people around the world, with continued follow-up studies being done, rather conclusive. And the vaccines do not have deadly side effects. A handful of people have died and millions have been saved.

There are times I support a vaccine mandate and times when I do not. I support it 100% on a cruise ship. I support it in hospitals. I will leave it up to individual companies as to whether or not to mandate the vaccine. Some people will be forced to make a difficult decision -- get the vaccine or walk away from a job.

" A person's refusal to get the COVID vaccine can possibly harm me."
So can someone that took a jab or two

[oeb11]

a person who has medical resaons to refuse vaccination - should be able to do so
Forcible vaccination Harms that Person

Reasons Including - previous infections with wuhan virus - resulting in natural immunity.

which is far better immunity than teh vaccine - as recent studies show
Not that SR chooses to acknowledge such medical fact.

Vaccination should be a private medical decision between a patient adn physician
Not a political litmus test for obedience to the ruling class coastal elite DPST marxist party!



SR - conveniently and marxistly overlooks that.

SR is just another shill for the lying fauci and teh marxist fiden cabal of mandates and forcible removal of freedoms from Americans. More joy reid, stelter, cuomoo, and teh rest of the Lying Xinn cabal.



Quote fiden - 'It is not about freedom - It is not about choice' - which his EO mandates dictatorialy to confiscate from American Peoples


your arguments are fallacious - SR - as per the usual LSM propaganda.

why not fly the Chinese flag on your home - to accurately identify your political proclivities.

[rexdutchman]

Very interesting that NOW puddens is ramping up Monocrimal drugs sisters doctor says magic bullet
Hmm so no real need for vaccines Other then in special cases ( old sick etc ) still I agree with CHOICE
Maybe because the FDA will not approve emergency use if other drugs to treat
So back to guberment LYING

Using OHSA as a UN-Constitutional """workaround""" Marxist dictator WTF Did I wake up in China
Said before For your health NEXT guns , cars a/c heat

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by texassapper

LOL... try and rationalize it away... the same will be true here in 2-3 months.. and ignorant people like you will still be claiming its the unvaxxed to blame and you will continue to push a vaxx that doesnt work as advertised...

enjoy your booster shots.

It's the unvaccinated who are clogging up the hospitals and it's the unvaccinated who are dying from the CoVid delta mutant. Being vaccinated keeps you alive. It's mind boggling that Trump voters in the south don't want to get the vaccine. They would rather die than get the shot. When the doctor informs you that you need to go on a ventilator, it's too late to ask for the vaccine then.

Tex, Will see ya when you come back from vacation.

[bambino]

CNN: If natural immunity provides better protection than the vaccine, why should people with natural immunity still be forced to take the vaccine❓

FAUCI: "I don’t have a really firm answer for you on that. The one thing that the paper from Israel didn't tell you is whether or not as high as the protection is with natural infection, what's the durability compared to the durability of a vaccine?"

Well Dr. Fauci, the Singapore T-cell study shows that patients who recovered from SARS-CoV-1, still possess virus-specific memory T-cells that display cross-immunity to SARS-CoV-2 17-years later.

And there are numerous studies showing a robust, durable, natural immunity 12-months post-infection with SARS-CoV-2.

Moreover, the recent Israel study shows natural immunity provides 13x better protection than the vaccine.

Meanwhile, you are talking about booster shots every 5-8 months because we *KNOW* that the vaccine is not very durable❗️

@KanekoaTheGreat

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by bambino

CNN: If natural immunity provides better protection than the vaccine, why should people with natural immunity still be forced to take the vaccine❓

FAUCI: "I don’t have a really firm answer for you on that. The one thing that the paper from Israel didn't tell you is whether or not as high as the protection is with natural infection, what's the durability compared to the durability of a vaccine?"

Well Dr. Fauci, the Singapore T-cell study shows that patients who recovered from SARS-CoV-1, still possess virus-specific memory T-cells that display cross-immunity to SARS-CoV-2 17-years later.

And there are numerous studies showing a robust, durable, natural immunity 12-months post-infection with SARS-CoV-2.

Moreover, the recent Israel study shows natural immunity provides 13x better protection than the vaccine.

Meanwhile, you are talking about booster shots every 5-8 months because we *KNOW* that the vaccine is not very durable❗️

The 1,500 unvaccinated people who are dying everyday of CoVid are not getting immunity, they are dead.

[oeb11]

fiden criminal cabal applauds teh deaths of all those who oppose their marxist jackboot Orders to Obey and conform!
Thank U !

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Seems like he got what he deserved and what he wanted. He’s died on his own terms because of his choices. Good for him. DUMB POWER.

I have about as much empathy for his ilk as I do for someone that ODs on drugs or hangs themselves. Their choice and a fitting end.

Shows teh 'Humanity' of eh Racist, jackboot criminal cabal of fiden and his EOs.

Thank U - for being a loyal minion to teh marxist revolution - and showing your concern for One's fellow Human Beings!!


typical -

CRT &1619 and fiden - Is Institutionalized RACISM!!!

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by oeb11

fiden criminal cabal applauds teh deaths of all those who oppose their marxist jackboot Orders to Obey and conform!
Thank U !

"O"it's you who is supporting the clogged hospitals and the CoVid deaths of the unvaccinated. You don't care that 1,500 unvaccinated people are dying daily. You are more interested that the unvaccinated can/could choose to be unvaccinated.

Did you have to take a measles vaccine to go to school? I did.

[oeb11]

My , My -'a' - You do believe you can read minds.

Don't write I don't care - That is a Lie - and You are a Liar!
You are a minion of teh obedience class to DPST commie Orders

Happily marching like a lemming down teh path to communist tyranny by teh DPST party and its owner,- Comrade XI


I don't hear you screaming, screeching, and howling to force Influenza A vaccines on America?
Yes - it is a valid comparison in many ways - as both vaccines have only moderately effective rsults in combating disease.

Where Childhood immunizations effectively controlled many diseases - smallpox. polio, DPT, among others.

use your mind and medical background for something other than hanging Comrade Xi's hat.



Medical care should be between a physician and patient - and You Know That!
Permitting fiden to dictate medical care to America - is putting a senile, communist puppet in control of America- and that road leads to tyranny - and civil WAR!

[Alyssa XOXO]

I really miss OP posting, he kept it lively regardless of opinions. Hope you come back soon texassapper

That is all. Back on topic and have a great day!

[rexdutchman]

Hospital have ""Staffing issues "" Wait for it -------Because most nurses and doctors make a shot ton mo money doing the fed backed traveling Nurse doc thing So Hmm ,,Fed made crisis (again)
I know a nurse that has made mo money in 3 months then 3 years ,, left local hospital er

And have you seen the nurses and doctors being asked to leave hospitals ( not fired or quit wtf but being told to leave if they don't get the vaccine) Hmm The fact that some doctors and nurses don't want the vaccine ( that still has 2 years of trails) should scare anybody

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by rexdutchman

The fact that some doctors and nurses don't want the vaccine ( that still has 2 years of trails) should scare anybody

Three months ago, 96% of doctors were FULLY vaccinated against COVID, according to an American Medical Association poll. And 45% of those who hadn't gotten the vaccine were planning to. So add 2% to the 96%.

The fact that about 98% of doctors have gotten the vaccine, and the fact that two of your relatives might have died if they hadn't gotten the vaccine, should scare you.

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-cente...ainst-covid-19

Please note that vaccines aren't necessarily advised for some people, including doctors. Reasons include allergies to vaccine components and a history of Guillain-Barré syndrome. So some number of the small % of physicians who aren't vaccinated have a good reason.