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08-06-2024, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by farmstud60
Biden/Harris get most of the blame. They increased government spending, increased regulation which caused inflation to increase. They’ve probably been cooking the books on job numbers which gave false impression economy stronger than it really was
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Well, let's just put one conspiracy to rest. The BLS is no different than the federal reserve when it comes to autonomy. Neither party can tell them how to do their jobs. But let's set aside what you believe and let's use some common sense and get away from the Dems are evil mindset for a second. Don't you think if Dems could have the BLS lie about job numbers, don't you think they would have continued to do so to actually make themselves look better this close to the election instead of the exact opposite?
Anyway, to get back on topic, I don't think Harris can rebrand anything if folks are worried that the stock market is becoming highly volatile this close to the election because it's not how you start, but it is how you finish. People don't care to watch their 401K Plan go to shit and if you take credit for the good, you'll certainly get the blame for the bad.
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08-06-2024, 08:31 AM
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Hopefully, most (not MAGAs) can do the math and understand the market. The problem started in Japan, which has already begun recovering, and the US markets have rebounded.
Even taking the losses in the US markets yesterday, the Dow still closed 7,500 points higher than the day cheeto left office. So think about that—even with the "Kamala Crash," as the nugs call it, it's still significantly better than when their orange jesus ran things.
They somehow cooked the global market books? It's hard to make up for the ignorance and stupidity of these 'tards. Guess we should leave the socialists in charge since my accounts are doing quite well.
Another aside, illegal border crossings are lower than when the blonde prune left office. I guess numbers and math are tough for people that are morons. So I guess Harris will have to work hard to rebrand success, despite the unwillingness of the GQP to pass their own bi-partisan border bill.
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08-06-2024, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TechPapi
Hopefully, most (not MAGAs) can do the math and understand the market. The problem started in Japan, which has already begun recovering, and the US markets have rebounded.
Even taking the losses in the US markets yesterday, the Dow still closed 7,500 points higher than the day cheeto left office. So think about that—even with the "Kamala Crash," as the nugs call it, it's still significantly better than when their orange jesus ran things.
They somehow cooked the global market books? It's hard to make up for the ignorance and stupidity of these 'tards. Guess we should leave the socialists in charge since my accounts are doing quite well.
Another aside, illegal border crossings are lower than when the blonde prune left office. I guess numbers and math are tough for people that are morons. So I guess Harris will have to work hard to rebrand success, despite the unwillingness of the GQP to pass their own bi-partisan border bill.
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The math is simple, Biden/Harris Economic policies are a long term disaster. The Press would be highlighting how bad things are for "working people" if a Republican were in the White House. Record credit card debt and increasing late payments on credit cards shows things are weak
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08-06-2024, 09:59 AM
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As I said, it's easier to grasp if you're sophisticated enough to see past obvious personal financial management shortcomings. There's no sense trying to explain it to folks who aren't equipped to understand it.
Since Harris, as the VP, hasn't played any role in economic policy I don't see where she needs to "rebrand."
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08-06-2024, 10:13 AM
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It is really easy to grasp.
Under Biden,……high inflation, high interest rates, terrible supply chains, wars everywhere, people having two jobs to make ends meet, totally unsecured border, letting anybody in….
Under Trump…..just the opposite.
See how simple it is.
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08-06-2024, 10:16 AM
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Oh, I get it. If someone is simple, everything looks simple.
Maybe this will be her new brand. Especially after she gives MAGA a beatdown in November.
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08-06-2024, 10:21 AM
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Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
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Originally Posted by Jackie S
It is really easy to grasp.
Under Biden,……high inflation, high interest rates, terrible supply chains, wars everywhere, people having two jobs to make ends meet, totally unsecured border, letting anybody in….
Under Trump…..just the opposite.
See how simple it is.
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Unemployment at 8% when Trump left office, after hitting 14%. GDP in 2020 the worst in over 60 years. Supply chains already disrupted due to Trump's slow response to Covid pandemic.
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08-06-2024, 11:37 AM
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The key word…….”Covid”
Thanks for pointing that out.
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08-06-2024, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackie S
The key word…….”Covid”
Thanks for pointing that out.
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And that is also EXACTLY why inflation soared in 2022 and interest rates rose. You can't lay blame on Covid for one and ignore it on the other.
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08-06-2024, 06:20 PM
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Join Date: Apr 22, 2011
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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
And that is also EXACTLY why inflation soared in 2022 and interest rates rose. You can't lay blame on Covid for one and ignore it on the other.
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WRONG, you don't even want to honestly debate an issue. The year 2020 should be stricken from the blame a political party as they were all guilty.
Covid was over when Biden took the oath of office, and they still pushed more spending through which the only thing it accomplished was increase inflation. That is the absolute truth.
Yest there was going to be some inflation, but Biden doubled the rated in the United States because of his idiotic policy.
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08-06-2024, 06:29 PM
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The root cause of inflation is too much money.
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08-06-2024, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDaliLama
The root cause of inflation is too much money.
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Too much free money, going to people who did nothing to earn it except fog a mirror.
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08-06-2024, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackie S
Too much free money, going to people who did nothing to earn it except fog a mirror.
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Like most of those rural MAGA Appalachia voters on disability, yeah?
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08-06-2024, 08:10 PM
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Simplified: S&P 500 36% from Joe & Kamal taking office until today’s close.
Same period inflation 21%.
Net 15% over 3 1/2 years when taking into account the terrible inflation. Pretty fkn bad!
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08-06-2024, 09:51 PM
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Join Date: Apr 22, 2011
Location: Omaha, NE nearby
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Originally Posted by Michael8219
Simplified: S&P 500 36% from Joe & Kamal taking office until today’s close.
Same period inflation 21%.
Net 15% over 3 1/2 years when taking into account the terrible inflation. Pretty fkn bad!
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And totally worthless numbers that mean nothing. It is real wage growth that hasn't gone up and over 50% of the workers are in worse financial shape thanks to Biden/Harris pathetically wrong economic policies.
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