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12-14-2016, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CompanionEstella
Yes, my experience in Texas has been horrible. While I received a great deal of interest in Dallas in particular, the quality and behavior of clientele (while I did meet some great gentlemen) has been horrendous in comparison to other places I have worked from. I do not feel safe providing in Texas and my experience here has inspired me to take an extended break, brainstorm, and make big changes to how I conduct my business for my safety.
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Care to elaborate? Most of us certainly do not condone any type of aggressive behavior. But your rates and service level are above and below the DFW standard so I am not surprised that you are leaving disappointed.
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12-14-2016, 11:09 AM
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#92
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BYE FELICIA!!
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12-14-2016, 11:15 AM
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Join Date: Jun 24, 2011
Location: DFW
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Originally Posted by CompanionEstella
Reviews were created by clients in order to exert some type of "control" over ladies. To a certain extent, they held some value in allowing clients to skip over ladies who would rob or otherwise harm them.
However, reviews have very little benefit to ladies outside of verifying that she is, indeed, a legitimate provider. When I initially started and had no reviews at all, I received many whining messages telling me that I shouldn't charge my rates with no reviews, I wouldn't be successful if I didn't have more reviews, having less than a certain amount of reviews indicated a lack of success, etc.
Of course, none of that was true. I was making a great deal of money but that amount did not change in any way as my reviews began to trickle in. It wasn't less, it wasn't more. I found that reviews had zero impact on my business as a whole.
My post was a reference to my city of Seattle where dozens/hundreds of men are being arrested and charged with felonies for review writing. This article shows the latest with at least 12 more (and I've heard the final number will be much higher) being arraigned on felony charges for review writing today.
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/13/12...stitution-case
I do not know if Dallas authorities will follow suit and it's possible that they never will. But you have to know you are risking felony charges if they do decide to.
Yes, my experience in Texas has been horrible. While I received a great deal of interest in Dallas in particular, the quality and behavior of clientele (while I did meet some great gentlemen) has been horrendous in comparison to other places I have worked from. I do not feel safe providing in Texas and my experience here has inspired me to take an extended break, brainstorm, and make big changes to how I conduct my business for my safety.
I absolutely love this job. . .minus the danger. Shame on those men that make this job dangerous for all.
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So are you saying a client can't or shouldn't share his experience on a escort information exchange board because what happened 2000 miles away?
#totallyturnedoff
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12-14-2016, 11:20 AM
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So are you saying a client can't or shouldn't share his experience on escort a information exchange board because what happened 2000 miles away?
#totallyturnedoff
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She's a feminist too sounds like.
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12-14-2016, 11:51 AM
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User ID: 5454
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If you guys knew the story behind this, you would feel like real dicks right now.
She doesn't have to explain herself to anyone and believe me, she has EVERY FUCKING RIGHT to feel the way she feels.
And by saying shitty undercutting statements, without knowing the WHOLE story, you're making yourself look like assholes.
P.S. I'm not aiming this reply towards the Shep's reply.
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12-14-2016, 01:01 PM
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Jan 16, 2013
Location: s tx
Posts: 88
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What is the story behind this?
I think for the most she got flamed because she is asking a high rate with very little value returned for that high rate...and shes not willing to be competitive in a tough market...
Sorry but only the strong survive.
I personally have nothing against her other than i am not open to paying $400 for a cbj and who knows what else im getting or not getting... she will not elaborate without guesswork...
No for me!!!
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12-14-2016, 01:06 PM
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#97
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Pending Age Verification
User ID: 357126
Join Date: Jul 14, 2016
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 82
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Originally Posted by Brandofan
Care to elaborate? Most of us certainly do not condone any type of aggressive behavior. But your rates and service level are above and below the DFW standard so I am not surprised that you are leaving disappointed.
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My comment was not a reference to amount of business I received. I received and continue to receive a LOT of interest in this area off of Eccie/P411 alone without ever having to pay for an ad.
My comment was a reference to, exactly what I said it was a reference to. . .not feeling SAFE. Please re-read my post, particularly where I said I do not feel SAFE in this area.
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So are you saying a client can't or shouldn't share his experience on a escort information exchange board because what happened 2000 miles away?
#totallyturnedoff
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No, I'm saying a client should be AWARE that he is risking felony charges before he shares his experience. It has taken a while for people to start accepting that most of the poor souls in that case were guilty of nothing more than writing reviews and what happened to them could easily happen to you.
If you are aware of the risks and choose to do so anyway, that is on you. But I can't imagine encouraging a client to commit a felony for something that serves little purpose/benefit to me.
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12-14-2016, 01:08 PM
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Join Date: Jan 28, 2010
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 15,482
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There's always a top secret untold story LOL, speak up or don't bring anything up
she was doomed from the start with the $400hr NO review BS on a review board, hit the road jack
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12-14-2016, 01:08 PM
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User ID: 357126
Join Date: Jul 14, 2016
Location: Las Vegas
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Originally Posted by Kayleehotchick
If you guys knew the story behind this, you would feel like real dicks right now.
She doesn't have to explain herself to anyone and believe me, she has EVERY FUCKING RIGHT to feel the way she feels.
And by saying shitty undercutting statements, without knowing the WHOLE story, you're making yourself look like assholes.
P.S. I'm not aiming this reply towards the Shep's reply.
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Thanks so much for your support, but I'd rather not talk about it publicly. The incident was only one piece of the puzzle in an overall bad experience.
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Originally Posted by Daz
What is the story behind this?
I think for the most she got flamed because she is asking a high rate with very little value returned for that high rate...and shes not willing to be competitive in a tough market...
Sorry but only the strong survive.
I personally have nothing against her other than i am not open to paying $400 for a cbj and who knows what else im getting or not getting... she will not elaborate without guesswork...
No for me!!!
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I am free to ask for whatever rate I feel comfortable with.
If you are not interested in seeing me, please see a lady who better suits your interest and budget.
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12-14-2016, 01:10 PM
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Location: Las Vegas
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One more thing: Money means nothing. I have a lot of money as I've been doing this for years and I have no drug habit, no Gucci habit, and no kids to speak of. That means I have a lot of money. That means nothing.
Safety means far more. I have turned down a lot of dates and canceled several appointments for this week due to no longer feeling safe in this area. Money does not make that better and I am willing to turn down any amount of money for the benefit of my safety.
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Originally Posted by BLM69
There's always a top secret untold story LOL, speak up or don't bring anything up
she was doomed from the start with the $400hr NO review BS on a review board, hit the road jack
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My rate did not contribute to my poor experience or the fact that I do not feel safe in this area.
I will not discuss certain things publicly and it is of no concern to you.
I am, personally, indifferent to reviews as they have no impact on me. They do not impact my business and I am not in danger of being arrested on felony charges for writing them. But, as stated, I do not encourage clients to commit felonies.
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12-14-2016, 01:19 PM
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Join Date: Jun 24, 2011
Location: DFW
Posts: 8,934
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Originally Posted by CompanionEstella
No, I'm saying a client should be AWARE that he is risking felony charges before he shares his experience. It has taken a while for people to start accepting that most of the poor souls in that case were guilty of nothing more than writing reviews and what happened to them could easily happen to you.
If you are aware of the risks and choose to do so anyway, that is on you. But I can't imagine encouraging a client to commit a felony for something that serves little purpose/benefit to me.
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There are approximately 120,000 reviews in Dallas combined. So you are saying those are all felonies waiting to happen?
If you don't want or like review just say so...don't come here and start saying we are fucking committing felonies and shit.
By you being verified and posting an ad. You do know you can't reject a review right?
If I am wrong...please correct me mods/admin.
Edit to add: You have offended every reviewer and girls that have reviews. Probably a good idea to stop digging.
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12-14-2016, 01:21 PM
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#102
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loves your furry kitty
Join Date: Jul 23, 2013
Location: US
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So in a thread that invites us to ask you anything you are refusing to answer more specifically what happened? No need to name names, places, or even exact dates. If so, that is your choice, and I wish you health and happiness wherever you go.
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12-14-2016, 01:30 PM
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Pending Age Verification
User ID: 357126
Join Date: Jul 14, 2016
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 82
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Originally Posted by Brandofan
So in a thread that invites us to ask you anything you are refusing to answer more specifically what happened? No need to name names, places, or even exact dates. If so, that is your choice, and I wish you health and happiness wherever you go.
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I've encountered more dangerous and psychotic people here than I am used to. I have had to employ even more stringent screening practices to protect myself than I would in the city I typically provide in. In my city, I served mostly technological workers who were kind, safe, and clean.
I had one particularly bad encounter with a client which is what she was referring to but it is possible to encounter one bad client anywhere. It is the overall atmosphere and culture here in addition to the bad encounter which makes me feel it is not safe.
Seattle is very kind to sex workers. Texas is not.
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There are approximately 120,000 reviews in Dallas combined. So you are saying those are all felonies waiting to happen?
If you don't want or like review just say so...don't come here and start saying we are fucking committing felonies and shit.
By you being verified and posting an ad. You do know you can't reject a review right?
If I am wrong...please correct me mods/admin.
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Yes, I believe the precedent set by the cases in Seattle mean that all those who write reviews on any board are at risk of felony charges. The legal system works on precedents and a precedent has been set.
I am indifferent to reviews. That does not mean I don't like them. It means I am 100% indifferent. I couldn't care less one way or another whether a review is written or posted OR what the review says. Why is my indifference so offensive to you?
I do inform my clients what I know about the precedents that have been set and allow them to make their own choice understanding the risks. A very dear client of mine who was kind, respectful, and an overall good guy was one of those charged with a felony on the basis of his writing 3 reviews over 3 years ago.
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12-14-2016, 01:33 PM
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#104
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Pending Age Verification
User ID: 5454
Join Date: Jan 4, 2010
Location: DFW
Posts: 3,149
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Originally Posted by Brandofan
So in a thread that invites us to ask you anything you are refusing to answer more specifically what happened? No need to name names, places, or even exact dates. If so, that is your choice, and I wish you health and happiness wherever you go.
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Respect her wishes.
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12-14-2016, 01:37 PM
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loves your furry kitty
Join Date: Jul 23, 2013
Location: US
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Originally Posted by Kayleehotchick
Back off. Leave her alone.
Let's respect her wishes.
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She already answered the question and doesn't seem to need your help. And while I understand that it probably comes from a desire to help and protect I personally don't care for the tone directed at me, and am not sure what throne you think you sit on to talk to me that way.
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