Let's discuss guns for a quick second

[GhostRiderYYZ]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

Similar to Ghost's comment....
Need to know brand and model of each.
Send me a PM.
BTW, sounds like he's not happy with the 9mm, so why is that?

However, there's no reason to limit yourself to one.

My common theme is that firearms are tools.
And, do not different tasks require different tools?

ECG and I both have small handhelds for concealed carry.
We both have medium sized handhelds for everyday out door carry on holsters. I also have a old 1911 45 that's almost a collectors item. Last, we have a couple others stashed in the house. The medium size and the spares are a mix of 45s, 38s and 9mm, all different. Only her concealed carry is newish and that's a light 9mm. My CC is a older 38. (Btw, no kids and there's a safe).

A key item to consider when buying smaller weapons is if it can actually handle a heavily loaded cartridge. Some cannot. Example is that target rounds usually have a light load of powder (why anyone would buy a target practice weapon is beyond me as you should practice with what you will actually use in the real world). Btw, I am aware of two different writeups where a 22 bullet from a handheld bounced off a naked human.

Last, my personal recommendation is based upon the size of the human and that persons training. Of course concealed carry tends to a smaller item.

When it comes to EDC weapons you want more concealability than round count. Plus you have to consider things I mentioned above. Are you going to add an Optic on top? Are you going to add an under barrel accessory? (laser/light/ or combo)?

Those things alter the holster which is VERY important because it is what mates the pistol to your body. Are you going to IWB or OWB? (Inside Waist Band - Outside Waist Band)

Easy way to drive my Tylenol stock up is google "holsters for ______" (insert your make/model of pistol) and the headache of choices you see is scary.

There is a LOT more to carrying a firearm than picking one out and buying a "cute" holster.

[Unique_Carpenter]

True,
But I consider a cc weapon to be one to be used for close encounters. No need for sights, etc.

[R.M.]

Thank both of you for the generous information. I'm keeping the 38...

[O'Mike]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

True,
But I consider a cc weapon to be one to be used for close encounters. No need for sights, etc.

So I am not the only one who feels this way? WOW, I thought I was alone with the no sights thing. Pretty sure someone is gonna chime in about what a prosecutor would do with that...............



On another note, it is amazing the amount of rounds the newer pistols hold. Got a G43 that holds more than my G19. The 43 is much smaller and easier to carry.

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[GhostRiderYYZ]

My normal EDC is the basic Sig P365 micro with no addons.. just basic 9mm.

The Ruger Max9 may or may not keep the ReadyDot on it.. I might change it back to normal... but I am pining for another Max 9 and Security 9 (the PRO models with out the thumb safety) but will cost me about 800 for both.

[Busty]

I finally cleaned mine

[Unique_Carpenter]

Good for you Busty.
Are you really trying to avoid coal in your stocking?
At least twice a year, more often if used.

[DEAR_JOHN]

I have a new toy on the way. Originally I wanted a S and W 586 (black version of the 686) and since it took forever to mail out the weapon, I did some searching and found another S and W .357. I didn't even know this weapon existed. It's a S and W model 627 revolver with 8 round capacity.
So I told the supplier to put the 586 back and post the money against the new 627.


https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/n-frame-178014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i_TGhJivq8

[Unique_Carpenter]

That's one of their N-frame models.
Their N-frame is a classic well working design that dates back to the mid 50s and was based upon an even earlier model that dated back to before WW2.
S&W currently offers over 20 variations of their N-frame revolvers

[Slitlikr]

Nice weapon.
That moon clip looks like a bitch to use.

[Unique_Carpenter]

The moon clip does not need to be used.
We always handload our revolvers as the cylinders spin just fine and we always do appropriate maint.
Btw, I have seen cartridges come out of a moon clip.
By hand, just takes a bit of practice to do a quick reload cause you have to remember it's an 8fer, not a 6.

The only drawback is that it's a bit thicker with that cylinder than others. So get a custom holster. Maybe not for small women though, but that's just a personal opinion.

The local armory guy always invites us over when he gets a new weapon in.
ECG actually helps him make sales from time to time due to our coyote story that's all over town.

[Slitlikr]

Yep
No need for a moon clip with that gun.

[O'Mike]

I come from a different angle on moon clips. Unlike many others I started my handgun experience in IPSC. I then migrated to concealed carry, defensive use, etc. later in life. My first handguns were used for competition where speed was very important. The revolver guys needed an edge and moon clips were it. (There are tools for inserting and removing cases if you have weak fingers.) They seemed to work better than speed loaders.


Now that being said, on the occasion I carry a revolver, I carry stripper clips in my pocket. Full moon and speed loaders are just too bulky, unless you are carrying them on a duty/competition rig. Moon and half moon clips can make things faster though.



A lot of the 9mm revolvers that are becoming popular use them. They seem to have started to get some traction due to availability, cost and technical advances in 9mm. I've never heard of a case personally where bullet setback was an issue.




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[DEAR_JOHN]

Has anybody used dackoutdoors.com? I bought some ammo from them and it took over a month to get the order delivered. Due to the fact they have great prices, I ordered the S and W 627 from them and this whole thing has been an ordeal. Doing a search on the BBB, they are rated an F.


Their MO is getting the money up front and keeping the money until the delivery which is mostly over a month from ordering online to delivery.


They only have one person doing customer service, so their customer service sucks big time.


Once I receive my 627, I will post truthful reviews of their business and will never do business with them again, no matter what kind of deals they offer.

[Unique_Carpenter]

I always use a local shop.
I have no prob spending a few bucks more to also get personal service, parts, and specifically requested ammo.