DACA, the dreamers act

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by WTF

God's way of working against Dreamers!

God Dammit, God is a Border Patrol Guard..

Yet another reason liberals Hate god..

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...awsuits-242399

15 states are suing over DACA. I don't think they have a case.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...ng-daca-215579

Neither did they when they stopped his 'refugee halt'. BUT courts ruled they did stupidly i might add.

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...you-are-215580

a tale of woe of 2 dreamers. I sympathize with their plight, not our problem!!!! their stupid parents put them in that position. they still have to go back!!!!

And why doesn't Politico do a story with some family who's lost a loved one or three to illegal alien criminals? OR go interview that 65 yr old woman who was recently RAPED by a 20 time deportee, but cause he's living in a sanctuary city, will probably get a slap on the wrist for raping her..

OH YEA< cause OUR sob stories don't matter, just those of the border jumpers..

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by tandyscone

I'm just curious. Does anybody besides me see irony in the fact that, on a board whose purpose is to help people avoid getting caught while they are breaking the law, people complain about laws not being enforced?

not really... apples & oranges.

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

not really... apples & oranges.

Very true. There is a big difference between border security/deciding who can come in to your country, which is UNIVERSAL all over the world, and talking about prostitution, which is legal in many countries..

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by garhkal

.... talking about prostitution, which is legal in many countries..

We can talk about it all we want! It's our First Amendment Right!

And it's my Fifth Amendment Right to REFRAIN FROM WRITING ABOUT IT!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

We can talk about it all we want! It's our First Amendment Right!

And it's my Fifth Amendment Right to REFRAIN FROM WRITING ABOUT IT!

You have no rights on a Hooker board...

[Trey]

I am for ending daca. Never should've started.

[dilbert firestorm]

http://michellemalkin.com/2017/09/06...rving-dreamer/

There is no such thing as a “deserving DREAMer”
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2017

Over and over again, from the mouths of politicians in both parties, identity politics purveyors and cheap labor lobbyists, we hear the same refrains about President Obama’s 800,000 amnestied illegal alien youths:
“They don’t deserve to be punished.”
“They deserve protection.”
“They deserve the American dream.”

Deserve, deserve, deserve.

Over and over again, in countless cookie-cutter op-ed pieces published over the past month, so-called DREAMers have vociferously lamented President Donald Trump’s push to eventually undo their unconstitutional five-year reprieves from deportation plus coveted work permits:

“DREAMers like me have flourished under DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals). Trump might take it all away.”

“If Trump ends DACA, DREAMers like me will return to a life of anxiety and doubt.”

“I feel exhausted, I feel frustrated, I feel angry, and in the worst moments, I feel helpless. I feel terrified that at any moment this program is going to be taken away and once again I won’t be able to work — how will I pay my bills? … What is going to happen to me if I get stopped on the street and I no longer have DACA? What’s going to happen to me if I get put into deportation proceedings and I don’t have thousands of dollars to hire an attorney to stay in this country?”

“I will lose my job, my ability to finish college, my driver’s license, and will be subject to deportation. I am not alone either. Almost one million young immigrants like myself will be affected in the same way and possibly even worse.”

I, I, I. Me, me, me. My bills. My ego. My education. My job. My anxiety.

Since when did DACA become the Depression and Anxiety Cure for Amnesty-seekers?

It’s this insatiable appetite for collective entitlement that demonstrates the perils of blanket amnesty. Give a privileged political class an inch and they’ll take, take, take until feckless public servants give away their country.

The proper response to illegal alien activists demanding that Washington act “NOW!” to preserve their comfort, allay their anxieties and extend their unconstitutional protections indefinitely is this:

Why?

Americans in uniform who’ve dedicated their lives to defending our nation are struggling to gain access to quality health care they’ve earned by action, not by accident or circumstance. Imagine their stress.

Five million American young people between 16-34 were unemployed last year and 50 million more are not even in the labor force. Imagine their anxiety.

Hundreds of thousands of law-abiding people from around the world are waiting patiently for their backlogged visa and green card applications to be reviewed. Imagine their frustration.

Why don’t their dreams come first?

Nancy Pelosi called on House Republicans to help her “safeguard our young DREAMers from the senseless cruelty of deportation and shield families from separation and heartbreak.”

Never has this Bay Area elitist called on House Republicans to join her in shielding native-born and law-abiding immigrant families from the senseless and preventable violence committed by criminals in this country illegally who’ve caused immeasurable heartbreak for decades in her overrun California sanctuary.

Jamiel Shaw Sr., whose son was mercilessly shot to death by a sanctuary-protected gang member living in outlaw-coddling Los Angeles illegally, administered a bracing reality check:

“You want to talk about families being separated? Try spending your holidays talking to a grave!”

The left-wing DREAM racket is a self-perpetuating political marketing machine. Its primary contribution to American society? Lashing out at how cruel, racist, ignorant and ungrateful the rest of us are for not bowing down before the hallowed angel children of the Obama administration’s amnesty program. It’s no coincidence that the publicity-hungry leaders of the DREAMer movement are full-time fulminators in government-funded academia, community organizing outfits, immigration law foundations and the grievance-nursing media.

A deserving DREAMer would respect the sovereign right of an independent nation to determine who stays and who goes based on its national interest and constitutional obligations to put its citizenry first.

The deserving DREAMer, in other words, would admit he or she is owed nothing and deserves nothing.

There is no such thing as a “deserving DREAMer.”

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by Trey

I am for ending daca. Never should've started.

And NO more amnesty. WE've had the congress lame asses PROMISE border controls 4 times before, "just if the president grants amnesty".. AND ALL it has done is get MORE Illegal aliens coming to the US time and time again.

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

http://michellemalkin.com/2017/09/06...rving-dreamer/

There is no such thing as a “deserving DREAMer”
by Michelle Malkin..snip..

I read that when it was over on GOPUSA, and fully agree with Michelle.. THERE IS NO such thing as a deserving 'dreamer'...

[Trey]

I think regular folks both sides agree on II but the government on both sides for different reasons dont. Thats why we dont get any place.

I'm more for treating II the way thier respective country would treat me if I was to do the same thing there.

[tandyscone]

DACA covers about 800,000 people. As a percentage of whatever measure you want to use, it consumes an insignificant fraction of resources. In fact, all the arguments I have seen indicate that their presence represents a net positive contribution to the economy.

Can somebody explain to me how ending DACA will improve veterans health care? How will ending DACA help 55 million young Americans who don't have a job? How will it speed up the visa and green card application process? How many people under DACA have committed violent crimes? How many are likely to?

It seems to me that all the people who are opposed to DACA are doing so on some kind of "principle of the thing." I say screw your principles. Show me how DACA hurts our society.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by tandyscone

DACA covers about 800,000 people.


I say screw your principles.

Screw yours, if you had any.

DACA is unconstitutional.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by tandyscone

Can somebody explain to me how ending DACA will improve veterans health care? How will ending DACA help 55 million young Americans who don't have a job? How will it speed up the visa and green card application process? How many people under DACA have committed violent crimes? How many are likely to?

ending daca has nothing to do with what you wrote. it is a none issue.

ending daca has more to do with upholding the rule of law and not codifying the anchor baby system which is what DACA tries to do.

if daca is codified, other immigration laws come in to play, the daca kids parents would be able to come in legally.

so, instead of 800,000, you have 2.4 million former illegals becoming legal residents.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

There is no such thing as a “deserving DREAMer”
by Michelle Malkin

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Michelle Maglalang was born to Filipino immigrants in Philadelphia on October 20, 1970. Her parents had arrived in the U.S. earlier that year. Her father was a doctor in training with a visa sponsored by an employer. Her mother was a schoolteacher. After Michelle's father completed his training, the family moved to New Jersey.


I know you right wing loons do not understand irony! Had there been people like her in the 1970's they would not have let her parents come over to this country. Which as it turns out ain't that bad an idea. She is worthless. A hate monger.


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[WTF]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

ending daca has nothing to do with what you wrote. it is a none issue.

ending daca has more to do with upholding the rule of law and not codifying the anchor baby system which is what DACA tries to do.

if daca is codified, other immigration laws come in to play, the daca kids parents would be able to come in legally.

so, instead of 800,000, you have 2.4 million former illegals becoming legal residents.

Jesus, if you understand birth rates, age demographics and GDP , you'd know we need more immigrants in this country! That is just from a math standpoint.

Next these are exactly who we want....hard workers trying to get educated.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by WTF

Michelle Maglalang was born to Filipino immigrants in Philadelphia on October 20, 1970. Her parents had arrived in the U.S. earlier that year. Her father was a doctor in training with a visa sponsored by an employer. Her mother was a schoolteacher. After Michelle's father completed his training, the family moved to New Jersey.


I know you right wing loons do not understand irony! Had there been people like her in the 1970's they would not have let her parents come over to this country. Which as it turns out ain't that bad an idea. She is worthless. A hate monger.


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you're stirring up pointless shit.

Michelle's parents came in to the country legally which is a very different pov from the dreamers and their parents who came in illegally.