A Toy Bag Full of Naughty Pleasures

[ElisabethWhispers]

Originally Posted by sofiaofhouston

Uneducated, prone to do this for life. I feel pitty....YOU LET PEOPLE BEAT YOU UNTIL YOU HAVE WELTS...HAVE YOU NO SELF ESTEEM? SEX IS IN THE MIND .....GET ONE..FOR YOUR BAG...

Before I get back on topic, I would like to share some thoughts. And sophiainhouston, I'm wordy on a bad day so please just attempt to follow what I'm trying to state.

Although I'm not completely immersed in this lifestyle, I am VERY well read on the subject, have friends who fully participate that I completely respect, and I do have some understanding of it and a little experience as well. Frankly, it can be really hot. The welts and bruising? Oh yes. And after the bruising it can get a lot worse, or better , according to your desires. It is a mindset that transcends being male or female, such as you suggested in another response. In other words, a man being submissive isn't mentally any different or more capable (well but for the obvious!) than a woman.

I can certainly appreciate that someone who doesn't understand "this" would show concern, if that is what you're doing, for those who participate. Several years ago I had a very dear friend who had a slave contract with her lover, her Master that she sincerely loved. I accidentally found it and was just appalled. This woman bordered on brilliance. Now? She is just brilliant. Period. She's beautiful, completely self-actualized and very accomplished. The men AND women that I have met who are submissive tend to be exceptionally intelligent. When something dealing with sexuality isn't understood, then trying to understand what is the psychology of that something can open up some very sensual and interesting doors. It did for me.

It's just unseemly to go off the deep end, sounding shrill, when you're just not getting it.

And finally, you're not being polite to two women that I hold in high esteem. They speak their minds, they're giving and know what they want. They're smart and show it. If what they do in their private lives is not your cup of tea, then look the other way. These activities are consensual and between adults. They're doing nothing to hurt you and that wasn't the point of the original poster's topic anyway.

For the most part, I've parroted much of what others have said but I did wish to reiterate what they had written.

'Nuff said.

Subcilla, I have also been trying to get together a toy bag of sorts as well. I believe that you have seen me write about the subject on a different website and it's always a work in progress! It's difficult when I have an incall, sometimes work out of my home and have occasional outcalls as well. How do you carry everything without having a large suitcase that you log around?

What I've tried to do is find items that can do double duty. A silk tie (nice expensive ones but I got them at Goodwill) can double as a cock ring, bindings, handcuffs and the sort. We both know the joy of clothespins but having a few different sizes is good. I tend to go simple and so I limit those dildoes and stuff like that to a very few. I'm not into toys that much anyway. As you know, so much of this is a mental game and challenge.

Have you thought of adding some candles to play with? I just like what candles offer during an appointment whether it's vanilla or not ... and if your client wishes to use the ones that have a low heat, then wwweeelllllll...wicked grin.

I honestly like taking the route of having the person who wishes to use a certain instrument provide it themselves. And then when you're in the negotiation stage, you can yeah or nay it on the spot. That has worked for me on several occasions and actually, it's been nice because I've acquired some things that I would have never thought to get myself.

So good luck with it all! People who walk a different path that most don't understand should know that it's going to be met with opposition. That's why it's difficult for escorts to often have close friends outside this world because others just don't understand. Or they cannot. The inability to not understand isn't their fault. But sometimes it's good to just not worry about others opinions too much. The ones that matter understand or love you anyway.

Take care everyone!

Yours,
Elisabeth

[AlexisSoftTouch]

Originally Posted by sofiaofhouston

Ok Sub - It is my experience as a Dom that if you were a REAL sub....you would have shut up and took all the shit thrown your way a long time ago.......with a smile and a YES MAM!

Sofia of Houston, come on girl!!! Now your are a Dom, on top of a Co op/ Agency Owner???? Girly,, I did not even think you were a provider... So is this you or are you talking about the new talent of the week ???

[AlexisSoftTouch]

Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

Before I get back on topic, I would like to share some thoughts. And sophiainhouston, I'm wordy on a bad day so please just attempt to follow what I'm trying to state.

Although I'm not completely immersed in this lifestyle, I am VERY well read on the subject, have friends who fully participate that I completely respect, and I do have some understanding of it and a little experience as well. Frankly, it can be really hot. The welts and bruising? Oh yes. And after the bruising it can get a lot worse, or better , according to your desires. It is a mindset that transcends being male or female, such as you suggested in another response. In other words, a man being submissive isn't mentally any different (well but for the obvious!) then a woman is being submissive.

I can certainly appreciate that someone who doesn't understand "this" would show concern, if that is what you're doing, for those who participate. Several years ago I had a very dear friend who had a slave contract with her lover, her Master that she sincerely loved. I accidently found it and was just appalled. This woman bordered on brilliance. Now? She is just brilliant. Period. She's beautifuel, completely self-actualized and very accomplished. The men AND women that I have met who are submissive tend to be exceptionally intelligent. When something dealing with sexuality isn't understood, then trying to understand what is the psychology of something can open up some very sensual and interesting doors. It did for me.

It's just unseemly to go off the deep end, sounding shrill, when you're just not getting it.

And finally, you're not being polite to two women that I hold in high esteem. They speak their minds, they're giving and know what they want. They're smart and show it. If what they do in their private lives are not your cup of tea, then look the other way. These activities are consensual and between adults. They're doing nothing to hurt you and that wasn't the point of the original poster's topic anyway.

For the most part, I've parrotted much of what others have said but I did wish to reinterate what they had written.

'Nuff said.

Subcilla, I have also been trying to get together a toy bag of sorts as well. I believe that you have seen me write about the subject on a different website and it's always a work in progress! It's difficult when I have an incall, sometimes work out of my home and have occasional outcalls as well. How do you carry everything without having a large suitcase that you log around?

What I've tried to do is find items that can do double duty. A silk tie (nice expensive ones but I got them at Goodwill) can double as a cock ring, bindings, handcuffs and the sort. We both know the joy of clothespins but having a few different sizes is good. I tend to go simple and so I limit those dildoes and stuff like that to a very few. I'm not into toys that much anyway. As you know, so much of this is a mental game and challenge.

Have you thought of adding some candles to play with? I just like what candles offer during an appointment whether it's vanilla or not ... and if you can use the ones that have a low heat, then wwweeelllllll...wicked grin.

I honestly like taking the route of having the person who wishes to use a certain instrument provide it themselves. And then when you're in the negotiation stage, you can yeah or nah it on the spot. That has worked for me on several occasions and actually, it's been nice because I've acquired some things that I would have never thought to get myself.

So good luck with it all! People who walk a different path that most don't understand should know that it's going to be met with opposition. That's why it's difficult for escorts to often have close friends outside this world because others just don't understand. Or they cannot. The inability to not understand isn't their fault. But sometimes it's good to just not worry about others opinions too much. The ones that matter understand or love you anyway.

Take care everyone!

Yours,
Elisabeth

Well said Elizabeth thank you for putting this thread back on track! I think we need a Alternative Lifestyles Forum on this board too.

[Guest091710]

Thank You Elisabeth and Alexis for the kind words, they are appreciated. i know this is hard for some to understand and grasp the concept. The D/s lifestyle is hard and challenging to live day to day. Its also a beautiful, rewarding, gratifying, experience, the 100% trust given to him and knowing that im owned and as his property, my best interest is always at heart.

i was unable to fully embrace who i am sexually as a provider at first. Being that it is the only way i identify i have just decided to go with it. In creating a toy bag and not allowing outside toys to be brought, im ensuring both my comfort level and my play partners. There for eliminating what might turn out to be a bad experience. The toys i've chosen are fairly moderately painless, and provide just a fun, creative, erotic, experience.

Elisabeth, i just carry a rather large black hobo purse and they all fit in there. i am waiting for the crop to arrive in the mail, i think it will stick out the side a bit, but its a pretty red rose, and wont appear to be a crop, lol. Master painted a paint stick black for me, that creates kind of a loud smack and leaves a red line, but goes away rather quickly.

So i too was wondering what i should add and shouldn't, but i just went with the basics. A crop, a flogger,cat o nine tails, dildos, butt plug, breast clamps, clothes pins, and 3 paddles. They all fit nicely in a large hobo. Its kind of addicting to shop for though. My Master has so so so many toys, but i didn't want extreme intimidating toys in there. A couple of clients have been amazed by the large dildo, lol.

The flogger i bought on ebay and the crop as well, both at amazing prices. ive also bought leather corsets and things there, still costly but far less then the $300 they sell for off the racks. They even take custom measurements, for that perfect fit. im looking for some low tension breast clamps, at the moment. The clover ones My Master has are a little much, lol.

I have done wax play, for Christmas i bought Master a stainless steel cane, 3 Japanese candles, and Japanese silk rope. The rope and the candles were amazingly beautiful. i wasn't sure if the rope was worth the cost, but it is so very soft and flat, now i want to buy more, in all colors.

Anyways much love and respect to You ladies. Its fantastic to see that i do have some support out there for my unique desires, from other providers. i would also like to thank the many men who have said so much, and been supportive. XOXOX

[Guest031710]

In the army, we can have all the bruises we want. Hell, Friday is usually football for PT, and we don't play touch football.

Subcilla, I don't get to play as a sub anymore, mostly because I don't play up here.. but I LOVED the term "smurf butt"
Very fitting!

[Guest091710]

Originally Posted by lil red Robin

In the army, we can have all the bruises we want. Hell, Friday is usually football for PT, and we don't play touch football.

Subcilla, I don't get to play as a sub anymore, but I LOVED the term "smurf butt"
Very fitting!

Yes, i thought it was funny, Mr. Smurf didn't appreciate me posting it much, and cautioned against giving the wrong idea, lol. i've had many jobs from being a Ophthalmologist Assistant, to a Bartender, to a provider. This job has by far been the hardest one to try to hide marks from. i don't constantly stay marked but on occasion when i am, well i am a sub, it isn't a secret, so i just let them know in advance, and ask if they are comfortable with it. Many have found them sexy and don't seem to mind a bit, fascinating even. Who would have thought it? i admire and appreciate our military, much respect to You. My Sister is a MP in Baghdad, been there for 5 years now.

[VENUSNOVA]

Are You still talking to me? i thought i told You, You self righteous bitch w Your fake ass apology to leave me the fuck alone. That means in all sense of the word, Your blatant disrespect doesn't get erased with "im sorry" im not playing fucking games with You cunt.
___________

It was not a fake apology you, it was in private and sincere. I understand that you are kinky and you love the abuse or maybe even crave it I dont know I dont care its really none of my business and that is why I apoligized..

I admit I was wrong for being judgemental because I especially love kinky things too.

However you the way you just addressed me was completely uncalled for kind of Jerry Springer like ..it is obvious we are not of the same class even though we both provide.

that was very very um...ugly...

Showing off your bruised body and being proud of it on an escort site is my business, because we session with the same guys and I find it to be in poor taste to "show off" what you do in private.


Why not show us barebacking the MASTER PICS TOO?



This is an information board where we find other like minded individuals to play with, why would your Master approve of you showing off what you do in private?

Its not very smart if he loves you and does not want anyone else marking you.

Its playing with fire.

And I am not worried about YOU I am worried about ME....there are several guys with you as a reference that want to see me and I am a bit apprehensive.

No thanks, I do not want any part of "revenge beating" ....and Alexis I no longer offer gangbangs or bukkakes..been there done that, they are a bitch to plan!

lol


Kisses,
Self Righteous Bitch

[Guest091710]

Originally Posted by VENUSNOVA

Are You still talking to me? i thought i told You, You self righteous bitch w Your fake ass apology to leave me the fuck alone. That means in all sense of the word, Your blatant disrespect doesn't get erased with "im sorry" im not playing fucking games with You cunt.
___________

It was not a fake apology you, it was in private and sincere. I understand that you are kinky and you love the abuse or maybe even crave it I dont know I dont care its really none of my business and that is why I apoligized..

I admit I was wrong for being judgemental because I especially love kinky things too.

However you the way you just addressed me was completely uncalled for kind of Jerry Springer like ..it is obvious we are not of the same class even though we both provide.

that was very very um...ugly...

Showing off your bruised body and being proud of it on an escort site is my business, because we session with the same guys and I find it to be in poor taste to "show off" what you do in private.


Why not show us barebacking the MASTER PICS TOO?



This is an information board where we find other like minded individuals to play with, why would your Master approve of you showing off what you do in private?

Its not very smart if he loves you and does not want anyone else marking you.

Its playing with fire.

And I am not worried about YOU I am worried about ME....there are several guys with you as a reference that want to see me and I am a bit apprehensive.

No thanks, I do not want any part of "revenge beating" ....and Alexis I no longer offer gangbangs or bukkakes..been there done that, they are a bitch to plan!

lol


Kisses,
Self Righteous Bitch

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[Htowner]

Originally Posted by subcilla

I have done wax play, for Christmas i bought Master a stainless steel cane, 3 Japanese candles, and Japanese silk rope.

Which religion is that?

[Wayward]

Father Wayward's where the hell have you been?

[enderwiggin]

Originally Posted by VENUSNOVA

I find it to be in poor taste to "show off" what you do in private.

Seriously? Coming from you, this is hysterical.

[sofiaofhouston]

Originally Posted by AlexisSoftTouch

Sofia of Houston, come on girl!!! Now your are a Dom, on top of a Co op/ Agency Owner???? Girly,, I did not even think you were a provider... So is this you or are you talking about the new talent of the week ???

Your getting in as many diggs as you can because your going to retire.......It's that simple....You know NOTHING and what I do and don't do....NOTHING about me or my activities....They are private...between 2 people, yet everything you've ever done BCD is all over the internet......Come on retire already...

[Wayward]

Sometimes I love morning sofia best.

[sofiaofhouston]

There's an Alt.com board for this Cilla............

[PokerMan]

This thread has gotten way out of hand. Subcilla was asking if anyone had suggestions for her "toy bag". From there we went to name calling, being judgemental, and disrespectful.
If a provider or hobbiest does not like the "sub" lifestyle that Subcilla brings to the table, kindly find another thread. Subcilla showed she is in total control in her private and professional "lifestyle". Like she said, she chose to be a sub. She did not ask for everyones approval, ask anyone to change their lifestyle, or pay her bills. She simply asked for advice on her toy bag.
Some people like vanilla, some people like things a little different.
Thank You Subcilla for allowing us to experience a "true sub" at affordable prices. Most providers will "act" like a submissive just to get your hard earned dollars. Most men who have a dominate personality have a difficult time finding a "true sub" in real life. Once you are with a "true sub", most women will seem rather boring.
Subcilla, Thanks for being part of this community and showing fellow hobbiest other sides to hobbying.