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Old 02-11-2020, 04:12 AM   #91
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Old 02-11-2020, 08:14 AM   #92
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Like I said earlier - Trump will start to run the tables. That means he is looking to pick up 2 states - N.H. and Minnasota, appealing to AA's ( he mentioned it in the State of the Union speech) and pick up suburban womens vote by focusing on anti crime and border security. Which equals win. Very exciting.
For some strange reason you think voters actually listen to Trump and believe what he is saying. Only hard-core Trump supporters listen to him and nod their heads in agreement. Others look at what he says and measure him on his results.

But the broken promises keep coming.

Remember when he said he would erase the deficit within his "8" years in office. Now his latest budget pushes that out to 15 years, and most believe that is pie in the sky.

"Donald Trump promised during his presidential campaign in 2016 that he would wipe out the federal deficit in eight years.

When Trump submitted his fourth proposed budget to Congress on Monday, he abandoned that pledge, as he did in his three previous budget proposals. The new budget proposal sets a 15-year target for eliminating the deficit."


And Trump's proposed budget is pure BS with no support from either side of the aisle.

"Trump’s $4.89 trillion spending plan – the final budget of his first term in office – reads more like a 2020 campaign document than a spending plan that has any realistic chance of becoming law."


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/4711840002/

Yes, Trump would like to bring more African Americanas and suburban women to vote for him but thus far there is little indication that that has happened. A recent article on the subject.

"Trump has turned the suburbs into a GOP disaster zone. Does that doom his reelection?

The orderly subdivisions and kid-friendly communities that ring the nation’s cities have become a deathtrap for Republicans, as college-educated and upper-income women flee the party in droves, costing the GOP its House majority and sapping the party’s strength in state capitals and local governments nationwide.

The dramatic shift is also reshaping the 2020 presidential race, elevating Democratic hopes in traditional GOP strongholds like Arizona and Georgia, and forcing Trump to redouble efforts to boost rural turnout to offset defectors who, some fear, may never vote Republican so long as the president is on the ballot."


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Can you tell me of another President that has kept all of his promises?

Actually, I was talking about how he is going to win. And if folks compare Trump to the socialists - in my opinion - it's a no brainer that he will be re-elected. Look at the the turnout in Iowa for the Dems. Very poor compared to previous election. That tells ya something.




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For some strange reason you think voters actually listen to Trump and believe what he is saying. Only hard-core Trump supporters listen to him and nod their heads in agreement. Others look at what he says and measure him on his results.

But the broken promises keep coming.

Remember when he said he would erase the deficit within his "8" years in office. Now his latest budget pushes that out to 15 years, and most believe that is pie in the sky.

"Donald Trump promised during his presidential campaign in 2016 that he would wipe out the federal deficit in eight years.

When Trump submitted his fourth proposed budget to Congress on Monday, he abandoned that pledge, as he did in his three previous budget proposals. The new budget proposal sets a 15-year target for eliminating the deficit."


And Trump's proposed budget is pure BS with no support from either side of the aisle.

"Trump’s $4.89 trillion spending plan – the final budget of his first term in office – reads more like a 2020 campaign document than a spending plan that has any realistic chance of becoming law."


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/4711840002/

Yes, Trump would like to bring more African Americanas and suburban women to vote for him but thus far there is little indication that that has happened. A recent article on the subject.

"Trump has turned the suburbs into a GOP disaster zone. Does that doom his reelection?

The orderly subdivisions and kid-friendly communities that ring the nation’s cities have become a deathtrap for Republicans, as college-educated and upper-income women flee the party in droves, costing the GOP its House majority and sapping the party’s strength in state capitals and local governments nationwide.

The dramatic shift is also reshaping the 2020 presidential race, elevating Democratic hopes in traditional GOP strongholds like Arizona and Georgia, and forcing Trump to redouble efforts to boost rural turnout to offset defectors who, some fear, may never vote Republican so long as the president is on the ballot."


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Old 02-11-2020, 02:14 PM   #94
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Can you tell me of another President that has kept all of his promises?

Actually, I was talking about how he is going to win. And if folks compare Trump to the socialists - in my opinion - it's a no brainer that he will be re-elected. Look at the the turnout in Iowa for the Dems. Very poor compared to previous election. That tells ya something.
Iowa was a caucus. Meaningless. Trump will win Iowa. Very little doubt in my mind. Want to talk about the Democratic turnout in 2018?

"Democrats won the popular vote by more than 9.7 million votes or 8.6%, the largest midterm margin for any party and the largest margin on record for a minority party."

To me, one person was responsible for this huge Democratic turnout at the polls -- Donald J. Trump. If Democrats turn out to vote in 2020 as they did in 2018, the night of Tuesday November 3, 2020 will be a long night for Trump.

THe latest poll by Morning Consult on the 2020 election has EVERY Democratic contender leading Trump except for Warren, who tied Trump. Bloomberg was the best at +5%. An Ipsos poll released yesterday has Bloomberg, Sanders and Biden ahead of Trump at +4, +4 +2. A Quinnipiac poll released yesterday has EVERY Democratic contender ahead of Trump with Bloomberg leading at +9%. Trump trails rather badly in polls in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, 3 states he needs in 2020.

Trump is a huge follower of the polls. I can guarantee you he will turn up the heat on Bloomberg very quickly. Bloomberg has already moved into 3rd place behind Biden and Warren in endorsements.
If Biden were to drop out of the race, I would bet the majkority of those supporting Biden would support Bloomberg.

Right now, in my opinion, Trump has reached his high water mark. There is only one way for him to go and that is down. Already his approval ratings have dipped slightly in the last week.

Trump courts the African Amweican vote yet gives the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Rush Limbaugh, who most consider a racist. Good luck with that move Donald.

"For decades, Rush has been the voice of racism on talk radio. He was Trump before Trump. He mocked candidate Barack Obama as “Barack the Magic Negro.” Along with Trump, he promoted the racist birther theory that Obama wasn’t born in the United States. On July 6, 2010, Limbaugh insisted that Obama was only elected president because he was black. “If Obama weren’t black,” said Trump’s Medal of Freedom winner, “he’d be a tour guide in Honolulu.” Limbaugh also suggested that “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.” In effect, Limbaugh endorsed white supremacists: “If any race of people should not have guilt about slavery, it’s Caucasians.” And in 2003 he was forced to resign as an ESPN commentator after he said Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was considered successful only because “the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.”

When he was not degrading people of color, Rush was downgrading women. He slammed female activists as “feminazis,” insisting that “Feminism was established so that unattractive ugly broads could have easy access to the mainstream.” He called Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke a “slut” and “prostitute” for supporting birth control legislation. He even downplayed evidence of sexual assault: “If the left ever senses and smells that there’s no consent in part of the equation, then here come the rape police.”"


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Is that a National poll? It doesn't matter what they say - it's the state by state polls to look at. This election will be won by who gets the most electorial votes. As you know. I'll try to get some state poll on Trump vs Biden,Sanders, Buttigeg and Warren and post them.

As to Rush Limbaugh - ask James Golden also known as Bo Snerdly. He's a black man that has been with Rush for 20 years ( His producer)and he says Rush is not a racist. He's rather pissed off about what people are saying about Rush. He also started a PAC "Make Black Americans Republicican Again." Those crazy Dems love to throw out the word racist without checking what's up. Trump knows that - I'm not a fan of Rush but I thought it was genius for Trump to give it to him at the State Of the Union address and make all those people watch. And than Americans could see those evil people shouting down Trump with "no" when he announced it. Even if you didn't like him that was unacceptable. It's a political medal - next time the Dems give it to one of their nutjobs see what happens.


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Iowa was a caucus. Meaningless. Trump will win Iowa. Very little doubt in my mind. Want to talk about the Democratic turnout in 2018?

"Democrats won the popular vote by more than 9.7 million votes or 8.6%, the largest midterm margin for any party and the largest margin on record for a minority party."

To me, one person was responsible for this huge Democratic turnout at the polls -- Donald J. Trump. If Democrats turn out to vote in 2020 as they did in 2018, the night of Tuesday November 3, 2020 will be a long night for Trump.

THe latest poll by Morning Consult on the 2020 election has EVERY Democratic contender leading Trump except for Warren, who tied Trump. Bloomberg was the best at +5%. An Ipsos poll released yesterday has Bloomberg, Sanders and Biden ahead of Trump at +4, +4 +2. A Quinnipiac poll released yesterday has EVERY Democratic contender ahead of Trump with Bloomberg leading at +9%. Trump trails rather badly in polls in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, 3 states he needs in 2020.

Trump is a huge follower of the polls. I can guarantee you he will turn up the heat on Bloomberg very quickly. Bloomberg has already moved into 3rd place behind Biden and Warren in endorsements.
If Biden were to drop out of the race, I would bet the majkority of those supporting Biden would support Bloomberg.

Right now, in my opinion, Trump has reached his high water mark. There is only one way for him to go and that is down. Already his approval ratings have dipped slightly in the last week.

Trump courts the African Amweican vote yet gives the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Rush Limbaugh, who most consider a racist. Good luck with that move Donald.

"For decades, Rush has been the voice of racism on talk radio. He was Trump before Trump. He mocked candidate Barack Obama as “Barack the Magic Negro.” Along with Trump, he promoted the racist birther theory that Obama wasn’t born in the United States. On July 6, 2010, Limbaugh insisted that Obama was only elected president because he was black. “If Obama weren’t black,” said Trump’s Medal of Freedom winner, “he’d be a tour guide in Honolulu.” Limbaugh also suggested that “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.” In effect, Limbaugh endorsed white supremacists: “If any race of people should not have guilt about slavery, it’s Caucasians.” And in 2003 he was forced to resign as an ESPN commentator after he said Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was considered successful only because “the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.”

When he was not degrading people of color, Rush was downgrading women. He slammed female activists as “feminazis,” insisting that “Feminism was established so that unattractive ugly broads could have easy access to the mainstream.” He called Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke a “slut” and “prostitute” for supporting birth control legislation. He even downplayed evidence of sexual assault: “If the left ever senses and smells that there’s no consent in part of the equation, then here come the rape police.”"


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Old 02-11-2020, 03:33 PM   #96
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Is that a National poll? It doesn't matter what they say - it's the state by state polls to look at. This election will be won by who gets the most electorial votes. As you know. I'll try to get some state poll on Trump vs Biden,Sanders, Buttigeg and Warren and post them.

As to Rush Limbaugh - ask James Golden also known as Bo Snerdly. He's a black man that has been with Rush for 20 years ( His producer)and he says Rush is not a racist. He's rather pissed off about what people are saying about Rush. He also started a PAC "Make Black Americans Republicican Again." Those crazy Dems love to throw out the word racist without checking what's up. Trump knows that - I'm not a fan of Rush but I thought it was genius for Trump to give it to him at the State Of the Union address and make all those people watch. And than Americans could see those evil people shouting down Trump with "no" when he announced it. Even if you didn't like him that was unacceptable. It's a political medal - next time the Dems give it to one of their nutjobs see what happens.
The 3 polls cited first were national polls. Trump trails against Biden in state polls in several states he won in 2016 -- Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida, NC. Some are within the margin of error, some are not. But even I admit it is too early to put much faith in these polls. What I will say, again, is Trump is very aware that he is currently behind in these polls and is focusing heavily on those battleground states.

As for the medal given to Limbaugh. Whatever Trump's reason for doing it, it was NOT viewed positively by the African American community. One person says Rush is not a racist. His statements over many years say otherwise. Maybe Rush did it just for the ratings with his Conservative audience. Does not matter. The statements were racist.

Trump has given the Medal of Freedom to several individuals since he's been in office. Obama gave it to the most individuals. I have absolutely no complaint about anyone other than Limbaugh receiving the honor. Compare the "accomplishments" of Limbaugh against any of the other hundreds of recipients and tell me why Limbaugh deserves the medal. This was not one of Trump's finer moments.

"Although presidents award the Medal of Freedom at their discretion, Limbaugh does not meet the criteria for such an honor. Already, his medal has sparked a backlash, because of his history of divisive speech. Latinos and immigrants have long been favorite scapegoats for Limbaugh, and his award deserves to be viewed as an insult to the Latino community."

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...nos-immigrants

I challenge you to find one person who is not a Trump supporter who agrees with Trump bestowing this honor on Limbaugh.
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Yes, it's too early for polls. I found some that favored Trump over Biden and then Biden over Trump. I must say I feel sorry for Joe. If anybody reallys loves him with their heart - they should do him a kindness and get him out of the race. At this point, it's just sad. Very sad.

I won't disagrre with you on mainly Trump supporters that wanted to honor Rush L. I'm not a fan of his - never have been. But I do respect a Presidents choice on who to give the medal to. I didn't like that a talk show hostess got it either but I respect Obammas right to bestow it on who he thinks deserved it.

So I just saw Yang pulled out of the race. I knew he didn't have a chance but I liked him. I enjoyed listening to him. Very intellegent man. Oh also the guy from Colorado pulled out - never can remember his name.


Tell me after the results who you think will be the Dem nominee. You know if it's Sanders the party's over. Hell, the Dem party is even against him.

And Bloomberg - after that racist tape of him came out - he's in trouble. But maybe he can buy his way of that - who knows.




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The 3 polls cited first were national polls. Trump trails against Biden in state polls in several states he won in 2016 -- Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida, NC. Some are within the margin of error, some are not. But even I admit it is too early to put much faith in these polls. What I will say, again, is Trump is very aware that he is currently behind in these polls and is focusing heavily on those battleground states.

As for the medal given to Limbaugh. Whatever Trump's reason for doing it, it was NOT viewed positively by the African American community. One person says Rush is not a racist. His statements over many years say otherwise. Maybe Rush did it just for the ratings with his Conservative audience. Does not matter. The statements were racist.

Trump has given the Medal of Freedom to several individuals since he's been in office. Obama gave it to the most individuals. I have absolutely no complaint about anyone other than Limbaugh receiving the honor. Compare the "accomplishments" of Limbaugh against any of the other hundreds of recipients and tell me why Limbaugh deserves the medal. This was not one of Trump's finer moments.

"Although presidents award the Medal of Freedom at their discretion, Limbaugh does not meet the criteria for such an honor. Already, his medal has sparked a backlash, because of his history of divisive speech. Latinos and immigrants have long been favorite scapegoats for Limbaugh, and his award deserves to be viewed as an insult to the Latino community."

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...nos-immigrants

I challenge you to find one person who is not a Trump supporter who agrees with Trump bestowing this honor on Limbaugh.
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And Bloomberg - after that racist tape of him came out - he's in trouble. But maybe he can buy his way of that - who knows.
I guess he should have used the politically correct terms criminal aliens or shithole countries as to where the people are from. But he might as well just stated it when saying how to deal with crime in certain sectors.
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Yes, it's too early for polls. I found some that favored Trump over Biden and then Biden over Trump. I must say I feel sorry for Joe. If anybody reallys loves him with their heart - they should do him a kindness and get him out of the race. At this point, it's just sad. Very sad.

I won't disagrre with you on mainly Trump supporters that wanted to honor Rush L. I'm not a fan of his - never have been. But I do respect a Presidents choice on who to give the medal to. I didn't like that a talk show hostess got it either but I respect Obammas right to bestow it on who he thinks deserved it.

So I just saw Yang pulled out of the race. I knew he didn't have a chance but I liked him. I enjoyed listening to him. Very intellegent man. Oh also the guy from Colorado pulled out - never can remember his name.


Tell me after the results who you think will be the Dem nominee. You know if it's Sanders the party's over. Hell, the Dem party is even against him.

And Bloomberg - after that racist tape of him came out - he's in trouble. But maybe he can buy his way of that - who knows.
Regarding Bloomberg's "racist" tape -- you do realize that Trump supported Bloomberg's strategy.

Too early to bury the Democrats if Sanders wins. As I pointed out, Sanders is doing quite well in the way-too-early polls vs. Trump. The question is if Sanders is the nominee, will voters who favored a more moderate candidate vote for Trump, sit out the election, or vote for Sanders?
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In my opinion - a lot of folks are just going to stay home.


In NH - voter turnout was moderate - not the overwhelming turnout the Dems predicted.

The Dems are going to screw Bernie...again. Poor Bernie.




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Too early to bury the Democrats if Sanders wins. As I pointed out, Sanders is doing quite well in the way-too-early polls vs. Trump. The question is if Sanders is the nominee, will voters who favored a more moderate candidate vote for Trump, sit out the election, or vote for Sanders?
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In NH - voter turnout was moderate - not the overwhelming turnout the Dems predicted.

The Dems are going to screw Bernie...again. Poor Bernie.
The Dems want to but at this point, wouldn't be the best idea. Biden is hoping the South will carry him back into the race however Bernie is showing strong support for out West.

I'm really shocked that no one hasn't touched upon the elephant in the room regarding if Pete can defeat Trump.
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...In NH - voter turnout was moderate - not the overwhelming turnout the Dems predicted.

The Dems are going to screw Bernie...again. Poor Bernie.

Certainly agree on the Burn Bernie aspect. But uhm... seems someone in NH had a record turn out in the primary, by far. And in a state where it would be typical for them to go ahead and place a poisoned vote on the other team's ticket. For the yuck of it, I 'spose. But instead, it would seem to me that they made a concerted statement with their vote. Funny them New Hampshiriens.
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Oh yes he did! And did you notice not to much about that was on the fake news. That is a huge deal. David Axilrod was asked who won the NH primary - his response - Donald Trump. He had an amazing 120,000 voters turn out for him.
Not only does Trump have his base behind him but the Republican party is all in too. It's gonna be a great run.
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Certainly agree on the Burn Bernie aspect. But uhm... seems someone in NH had a record turn out in the primary, by far. And in a state where it would be typical for them to go ahead and place a poisoned vote on the other team's ticket. For the yuck of it, I 'spose. But instead, it would seem to me that they made a concerted statement with their vote. Funny them New Hampshiriens.
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Agent220 I'll take a shot. I don't think America is ready for a gay President. Now I think Mayor Pete is an intelligent man and he means well for Americans. However, I'm seeing some not so nice things on social media that will probably doom his candidacy. The following post is the nicest thing people are posting - the other ones that I saw were horrible. So there is a large part of our population who will not vote for him based on his sexual preference. I am speaking mainly of religious people who take the bible literally.



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The Dems want to but at this point, wouldn't be the best idea. Biden is hoping the South will carry him back into the race however Bernie is showing strong support for out West.

I'm really shocked that no one hasn't touched upon the elephant in the room regarding if Pete can defeat Trump.
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