Bernie Sanders

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by sportfisherman

...I'm speaking toward his over-reach into areas of government historically left to be somewhat autonomous.

Your text editor cut out. You were getting ready to say: as evidenced by...

[sportfisherman]

I already provided the "evidenced by" his intrusions into the intelligence community,the justice dept,and the judicial branch and sentencing meddling.
If you are so cognitively capable Professor you would know these intrusions are outside the normal conventions.
If you can't keep up you have to sit at the children's table.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by sportfisherman

What does Hillary Clinton have to do with anything ? She is history.
Chump is an old,rich,white,guy.
I'm not speaking towards appointments ; I'm speaking toward his over-reach into areas of government historically left to be somewhat autonomous.

I know. I've wondered that myself. These people are just stuck in the past. Or maybe hypnotized by talk radio.

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Well she keeps killing off people so theres that..

[Dev Null]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

I know. I've wondered that myself. These people are just stuck in the past. Or maybe hypnotized by talk radio.

Or maybe further proof that right-wing propaganda causes irreversible brain-damage.

[Agent220]

Let me understand this:

Kloubchar and Pete just cancelled their campaign and everyone including Beto has decided to vouch their support to Biden.

I'm going to tell you right now: Biden is going to get destroyed by Trump.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Agent220

Let me understand this:

Kloubchar and Pete just cancelled their campaign and everyone including Beto has decided to vouch their support to Biden.

I'm going to tell you right now: Biden is going to get destroyed by Trump.

Why do you say that?

The election will be decided by a handful of states -- Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Florida for certain. Democrats will win Michigan in my opinion. The oher 4, according to the latest polling, are all within the margin of error with neither Trump nor Biden leading by much.

Other states such as NC, Ohio, and New Hampshire and even Texas could also be battleground states.

So out of 9 battleground states, Trump won 8 of them in 2016 and has to defend 6 of them in order to win in 2020. If Trump does in fact lose Michigan, Biden only has to win 2 other states that Clinton lost in 2016 in order to win the election.

Difficult? Yes. Impossible? Hell no. A lot can change in 8 months.

[Austin Ellen]

Agent 220 is correct. The writing is on the wall. I feel sorry for him. The other day he was making a speech and at the end said "I'm Joe Biden and I'm running for the US Senate". Ok Joe whatever - go home and take a napie now. It will just go downhill from here. The bottom line is - he's too old.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by sportfisherman

...you would know these intrusions are outside the normal conventions...

Are you speaking much about the intrusions into a Presidential campaign by the Intelligence (sic) community? Is that normal? Are you talking about spying on a Presidential campaign as being normal? Are you talking about a State Department unmasking hundreds of names to spy on them as being inside normal conventions? Are you talking about placing spies inside of a Presidential campaign as being normal? Are you talking about coordinating with foreign countries to spy on a Presidential campaign as being inside of normal conventions?

Seems you don't know much at all. So need to tell you about the 20+ top playas of the FBI food chain becoming separated from employment.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Agent 220 is correct. The writing is on the wall. I feel sorry for him. The other day he was making a speech and at the end said "I'm Joe Biden and I'm running for the US Senate". Ok Joe whatever - go home and take a napie now. It will just go downhill from here. The bottom line is - he's too old.

Yet, oddly enough, Nappy Time Joe is the youngest one of the Old, Rich, White, Guys on the Demonicrat ticket.

Go figure...

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by sportfisherman

What does Hillary Clinton have to do with anything ?

She/they will be the featured entertainment in the summertime, after her deposition, under oath, along with Cheryl and Paul 'Stonetear' Combetta.

git yer hot Right here!

[Agent220]

People don't learn from their mistakes nor history.

Biden has already angered those on the end amendment since Beto pledged his support and Biden make his idiot statement on guns.

Biden is not getting the youth vote and those in the Bernie camp. They will stay home. Low turnout favors Republicans.

Biden does not have the pull with the Latino vote.

I could go on and on.

You don't win elections by being goofy...you win them by energizing the base, being charismatic and being true to yourself. Trump may be a disgusting pig an a$# but, his base is coming out full swing for term 2.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Agent 220 is correct. The writing is on the wall. I feel sorry for him. The other day he was making a speech and at the end said "I'm Joe Biden and I'm running for the US Senate". Ok Joe whatever - go home and take a napie now. It will just go downhill from here. The bottom line is - he's too old.

Yes, he makes mistakes at times. But, again, you are tuned into your OPINION and not the FACTS.

He is 4 years older than Trump and a in a lot better physical shape than the Pillsbury Dough Boy who leads the country.

IF you want to compare stupid statements, Trump said the following back in February:

"I’m actually, I guess, the chief law enforcement officer of the country, but I’ve chosen not to be involved."


No Donald, you are not. William Barr is.

He also made this very stupid statement:

"Then I have an Article 2, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president."

No Donald, Article 2 of the Constitution does NOT empower the POTUS to do whatever he or she wants to do.

Then we can go into the stupid statements he has recently made about the coronavirus.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2...p-coronavirus/

And here are many more stupid comments made by Trump:

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...p&ruling=false

So do we want a POTUS who makes a mistaken comment every once in a while or a POTUS who obviously does not know right from wrong and constantly lies to the people of this country?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Agent220

People don't learn from their mistakes nor history.

Biden has already angered those on the end amendment since Beto pledged his support and Biden make his idiot statement on guns.

Biden is not getting the youth vote and those in the Bernie camp. They will stay home. Low turnout favors Republicans.

Biden does not have the pull with the Latino vote.

I could go on and on.

You don't win elections by being goofy...you win them by energizing the base, being charismatic and being true to yourself. Trump may be a disgusting pig an a$# but, his base is coming out full swing for term 2.

The FACT is that Trump can't win with just support from his base. I doubt many of his base stayed home on election day 2018 and Republicans got destroyed at the polls. From exit polling, people in the suburbs, primarily women voters, who supported Trump and Republcans in 2016 moved to the Democrats in 2018. If this trend follows in 2020 Trump is in big trouble.

As you stated, what will Sanders supporters do if Biden is the Democratic nominee -- sit home and not vote or vote for Biden? They certainly will not support Trump.

In 2018 the number of young voters who came out and supported Democratic candidates across the nation showed a huge increase over previous elections. The Democratic candidates for whom they voted were primarily MODERATE Democrats. Democrats picked up 40 House seats and most of them were MODERATE Democrats. So to assume that Bernie supporters will not vote in 2020 is a rather large assumption to make.

[Austin Ellen]

Yeah, like I said - I feel sorry for him. Oh the poor guy thought he was arrested in South Africa. Jeeze. Oh and he thought Super Tuesday was Super Thursday. Sorry -but Donald Trump has a shit ton more energy then Biden. It's in plain view for everybody to see. He just needs a napie.

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Yes, he makes mistakes at times. But, again, you are tuned into your OPINION and not the FACTS.

He is 4 years older than Trump and a in a lot better physical shape than the Pillsbury Dough Boy who leads the country.

IF you want to compare stupid statements, Trump said the following back in February:

"I’m actually, I guess, the chief law enforcement officer of the country, but I’ve chosen not to be involved."


No Donald, you are not. William Barr is.

He also made this very stupid statement:

"Then I have an Article 2, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president."

No Donald, Article 2 of the Constitution does NOT empower the POTUS to do whatever he or she wants to do.

Then we can go into the stupid statements he has recently made about the coronavirus.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2...p-coronavirus/

And here are many more stupid comments made by Trump:

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...p&ruling=false

So do we want a POTUS who makes a mistaken comment every once in a while or a POTUS who obviously does not know right from wrong and constantly lies to the people of this country?

[Austin Ellen]

If Sanders does not get the nomination - his people will stay home. There is no way they will vote for Biden. None.

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

The FACT is that Trump can't win with just support from his base. I doubt many of his base stayed home on election day 2018 and Republicans got destroyed at the polls. From exit polling, people in the suburbs, primarily women voters, who supported Trump and Republcans in 2016 moved to the Democrats in 2018. If this trend follows in 2020 Trump is in big trouble.

As you stated, what will Sanders supporters do if Biden is the Democratic nominee -- sit home and not vote or vote for Biden? They certainly will not support Trump.

In 2018 the number of young voters who came out and supported Democratic candidates across the nation showed a huge increase over previous elections. The Democratic candidates for whom they voted were primarily MODERATE Democrats. Democrats picked up 40 House seats and most of them were MODERATE Democrats. So to assume that Bernie supporters will not vote in 2020 is a rather large assumption to make.