Its ok to kill a hooker if she does not provide for you in Texas

[Zimmie6942]

This thread is fucked up. Its never OK to shoot a provider. What's two pieces of papers worth compared to her life. Why would you bring a gun to a dick fight. If anyone needs to be shot its the pimp. In fact if anything needs to be illegal its the pimp. shot all pimps should be the moral of the story.

[natasteewsym]

I am very surprised that New York City has a relatively low rate of REPORTED crime.

[game1]

I don't think she should've been shot, however if you try to screw over someone there may be a problem, remember whether you are a man or a women, if you attempt to not pay for an appointment, or leave an appointment and cash and dash. You don't know what type a person you meet in that room.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by natasteewsym

I am very surprised that New York City has a relatively low rate of REPORTED crime.

About what I expected from you. "The data is not helpful to my preferred fantasyland so I will claim it is no good."

[dreamvacationdates]

Originally Posted by Zimmie6942

This thread is fucked up. Its never OK to shoot a provider. What's two pieces of papers worth compared to her life. Why would you bring a gun to a dick fight. If anyone needs to be shot its the pimp. In fact if anything needs to be illegal its the pimp. shot all pimps should be the moral of the story.

Once she decided to cash and dash she when from provider to thief, so yeah it's ok when its done at night in Texas,
don't be apologist for fucked up people, if she was the pimp you're ok but, no not the provider turned thief, man no wonder some of you guys are marks. any chick looking for a easy prey just need to read the boards and try to get the apologist as clients, they know you'll be easy.

[happybanana]

From MSN news...


Man calls police to complain about quality of his prostitute
4 days ago
There's no Better Business Bureau for prostitutes, but perhaps there should be. According to a spokesman for the West Midlands Police Department in England, a man called the cops Tuesday and "said he had arranged to meet a prostitute outside a hotel and he did not like the look of her. He said she made herself out to be better than she was." The man reportedly advised police the prostitute should be prosecuted for "breaching the Sale of Goods act." The man was sent a warning letter and will presumably try a prostitute with a higher Yelp rating next time. [Source]
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[oldbutstillgoing]

1. Its terrable someone died
2. She robbed him according to the law in Texas
3. He had the right to protect himself, his properity, and his money according to the law including the use of deadly force
4. The jury found him not guilty according to the law, not because it was a sex worker who did not fuck him but because she was robbing him according to the law.
5. He had a very smart attoreny
6. Any self defense instructor who deals with guns will tell you to never shoot to warn or wound. If you pull a gun, shoot to kill.

Its really sad that someone lost their life. Especialy over so little. Could the guy have decided to let her go? Sure. But he was within his rights to stop her from robbing him. He even said he was not trying to kill her. She committed the crime, not him. And I would bet he regrets his choice of actions for the rest of his life. And once she robbed him, it does not matter that she was a sex worker. She was a thief

Bottom line is if you rob someone be prepared to die. If you try to rob me in my house, no matter what the reason, I will shoot you dead on the spot if I get the chance. If you don't like the fact the law gives Texans the right to protect themselves from being robbed, don't come to Texas. And don't try to steal from us if you do.

If she was not a sex worker, this would never have even made it to this board.

[LordBeaverbrook]

Originally Posted by OldButStillGoing

Bottom line is if you rob someone be prepared to die. If you try to rob me in my house, no matter what the reason, I will shoot you dead on the spot if I get the chance. If you don't like the fact the law gives Texans the right to protect themselves from being robbed, don't come to Texas. And don't try to steal from us if you do.

Sorry, that is a barbaric attitude and went out shortly after Hammurabi who was only so barbaric as to cut off the hand of a thief. It doesn't even fit the facts because she did provide the services he contracted for, just not the ones (illegal) that he assumed he was entitled to. He then followed her outside, shot at the tire of her car and a fragment hit her in the neck resulting in her paralysis and later death.

http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/20...s-to-have-sex/

Your parents told you from the time you were tiny, "Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should" and this applies. It is never right for someone armed to shoot another unarmed person in the back or accost them so they turn their back so they can then be shot. WWJD? He probably would have washed her feet except she wasn't a "prostitute" she was an escort who spent time for money and was only assumed to be a "prostitute" by the customer.

The old jokes in Texas run that there are "just some people that need killin'" and that is why these types of acquittals happen and also that if you shoot someone on your property just make sure they fall back into the house (or arrange it post mortem) and you'll have no problem with the law. As barbaric as that sounds, there is a grain of truth to it and there are areas in the state (as in many other states too I'm sure) where this sadly can and does happen. The other one you hear a lot when you get outside of somewhat civilized city limits is, "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out". Great Christian attitude (and this is always from self professed devout Christians) isn't it?

This brings to mind the last lines of a dirge by Robert Burns, "Man's inhumanity to man Makes countless thousands mourn!"

[Wakeup]

[pyramider]

Is that a band like the Insane Clown Posse?

[LordBeaverbrook]

Originally Posted by tuckahoe

It is obvious, many of you don't have experience with the type of people you take up for. These are the people who will do anything to get a dollar.

You are citing facts not in evidence.

They care nothing about whether you live or die; only what they can take from you. They often kill each other. This girl was not what we would even classify as an escort on this site. If you are streetwise, you will stay far, far away from them. They will deceive you, extort from you, break into your home, steal your wallet (and not care that you have to replace your drivers license and cancel credit cards). They care not what damage they do to you, your house, or your car. I am tired of this pity party for a thug. What I am sorry about is how she chose to live her life.

Again, facts not in evidence. Yes, sorry how she lived her life, but in this case, as has been stated several times, she did what she was legally allowed to do (though short 10 minutes) and was (accidentally) shot for not doing illegal acts she was expected to do.

Take the case of Casey Jo Pipestem from Oklahoma. ... Her murderer is in prison, unless some idiot judge has granted parole.

Judges don't "grant parole". The parole board does in accordance with the laws of the state. In point of fact, murderers have one of the lowest recidivism rates for violent crime (~1.2% in 3 years - http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=17) because most murders are crimes of passion or the moment and murderers don't very often find themselves in similar situations a second time or they actually determine not to commit that crime again and avoid putting themselves in that situation. In other words they are more often rehabilitated. That is why for all but 1st degree murder it doesn't make sense to lock them up and throw away the key. Those that do commit a second murder are very likely to commit more though and they should just be put away without parole IMHO.

Originally Posted by Doc Holliday

I understand where you are coming from, but it doesn't matter what the customer may want or what the status quo is; what matters is what the law is.

In Texas, if you are an escort and you specifically sell any sex act, you will get arrested.
This verdict says, in Texas, if you are an escort and you do not sell any sex acts, take the money and you leave -- the very thing you are legally permitted to do, the customer may legally shoot and kill you.

So, Texas is sending the message to escorts -- have sex with customers and go to jail or don't and we can legally kill you.

Not Texas, a jury in one very small part of Texas. A jury verdict is not "precedent", an judge's appeal decision is.

Originally Posted by dreamvacationdates

No it means if your going to do stupid shit at night like cash and dash you can get killed don't do stupid shit!!!

You are citing facts not in evidence. So doing what you are legally allowed to do (provide time and then take the money) is "stupid shit" and NOT providing illegal services is what she should have done? He followed her outside, shot at her car, not her, and the bullet hit her. From my point of view you are quite logically challenged.

not the first time she's done it, but it was her last.

You are citing facts not in evidence.

I am quite sure anyone thinking about doing the same, will think long and hard about the consequences.

I'm sure they won't. If the death penalty doesn't make murderers think long and hard about murdering someone (1st degree murderers expect to get away with it, and 2nd degree and manslaughter murderers do it in the heat of passion or spur of the moment so by definition they don't "think long and hard" about much of anything until possibly long after the act.

This is just one bad trial and possibly a messed up judge, prosecutor and police department. There was one in Round Rock that incorrectly convicted an innocent Michael Morton of killing his wife and sent him to prison for 25 years and then fought tooth and nail to keep from discovering the truth for most of that 25 years. There is a "hang 'em high" mentality here in parts of Texas (and many places around the country) that doesn't seem to care if guilty people go free and "a few" innocents rot in jail or get executed as long as someone is caught quick and punished severely. There are police and prosecutors all around the country (though hopefully not a high percentage) that actually believe that the world would be a better place if they were judge, jury and executioner along with investigator and sometimes they act on this impulse. That is what I am sorry about.