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Old 11-11-2019, 12:01 PM   #931
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Sorry bud, my proof is in the statements of both Trump and Zelesnky that nothing "sinister" or "overt" took place on the call. And that no one has disputed the contents of the "transcript" to date.
you're so hung up on "the call", which is just one data point over months of pleading for an investigation, headed by Shadow Foreign Policy expert Guiliani.

actually, there was no investigation.. the Trump people only wanted the Ukraine to SAY they were investigating. they knew nothing would happen, it was smoke and mirrors, but the innuendo effect is what they were after.
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Old 11-11-2019, 12:10 PM   #932
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. After push from Rick Perry, his backers got huge gas deal in Ukraine

KYIV, Ukraine — Two political supporters of U.S. Energy Secretary Rick Perry secured a potentially lucrative oil and gas exploration deal from the Ukrainian government soon after Perry proposed one of the men as an adviser to the country's new president.

Perry's efforts to influence Ukraine's energy policy came earlier this year, just as President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's new government was seeking military aid from the United States to defend against Russian aggression and allies of President Donald Trump were ramping up efforts to get the Ukrainians to investigate his Democratic rival Joe Biden.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...-deal-n1079896
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Old 11-11-2019, 12:12 PM   #933
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no wonder Perry resigned right after the Impeachment inquiry was announced!
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Old 11-11-2019, 01:05 PM   #934
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you're so hung up on "the call",
Not hung up on the call at all. Responding to all the bs posts about the "perfect transcript" by Jax.

I enjoy watching Jax bloviate on his next "gotcha" and I'll respond to each.
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Old 11-11-2019, 01:22 PM   #935
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Once again President Trump has successfully baited democrats and the media into commiting suicide by trying to impeach him.
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:32 AM   #936
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Once again President Trump has successfully baited democrats and the media into commiting suicide by trying to impeach him.

WTF! What sane President intentionally tries to get impeached?
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:06 AM   #937
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WTF! What sane President intentionally tries to get impeached?
WTF! What insane political party would impeach a POTUS for nothing in a one-sided partisan sham process just months before a Presidential election, knowing he will be acquitted by the Senate and the whole shitshow will energize his campaign and let him run as an unfair victim of the opposition party's obsessed lunatics?
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:19 AM   #938
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^^^ That's why PROCESS MATTERS , you know like before some ones Found Guilty
This is nothing more then Political Thuggery with malicious intent ,,,
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:21 AM   #939
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Anyone tuning into the hearings tomorrow
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:21 AM   #940
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WTF! What insane political party would impeach a POTUS for nothing in a one-sided partisan sham process just months before a Presidential election, knowing he will be acquitted by the Senate and the whole shitshow will energize his campaign and let him run as an unfair victim of the opposition party's obsessed lunatics?
It's why we'll probably never see an actual impeachment vote. It remains a stunt with little proof against Trump.

I heard part of a piece on MSNBC last night where one of the Congressman involved in the investigation was now again trying to tout the removal of Yonavovitch as ambassador as an impeachable offence. Even most on the left agree that it was within the purview of the POTUS to do that as ambassadors server at the will of the POTUS.

It's a circus and Trump loves to goad them at every point. And to-date, Trump has been shown to be in the right.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:22 AM   #941
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Risky move, but sometimes you have to do what’s right. Now that you have presented Trump’s entire strategy, do you really think anybody gives a care whether Trump’s feelings are bruised? Every day he grows more and more unstable. The next thing yous know, he’ll be talking about crushing one with Tiffani.

And only a blind man can’t see the evidence mounting against him.

From sea to sea, Canada is counting on you.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:36 AM   #942
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WTF! What insane political party would impeach a POTUS for nothing in a one-sided partisan sham process just months before a Presidential election, knowing he will be acquitted by the Senate and the whole shitshow will energize his campaign and let him run as an unfair victim of the opposition party's obsessed lunatics?
The party who refuses to allow that fat lying bastard and his cult to ignore the Constitution. He committed Bribery ( extortion) and that’s a impeachable offense. The Senate can ignore that fact and acquit the fat lying bastard but they will pay at the polls. Either way there’s more waiting for him.

What are the odds trump attends Putin’s May Day parade? 50/50?
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:37 AM   #943
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why is it a risky move?
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:46 AM   #944
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The party who refuses to allow that fat lying bastard and his cult to ignore the Constitution. He committed Bribery ( extortion) and that’s a impeachable offense. The Senate can ignore that fact and acquit the fat lying bastard but they will pay at the polls. Either way there’s more waiting for him.

What are the odds trump attends Putin’s May Day parade? 50/50?

LOL...You seem angry again bro.

But do you have any proof that will stand up in the Senate regarding the supposed "extortion".

If you did, I think it would have been voted on by now.
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But do you have any proof that will stand up in the Senate regarding the supposed "extortion".

If you did, I think it would have been voted on by now.
the Senate will acquit (or not vote, period), regardless of evidence. we all know that, so why ask that question, and make the statement?
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