Gee, ya know, this Ukraine thing might take more than a day to end the war. who knew..

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Yeah, by only giving Putin what he wants. I think the people of Ukraine have made it fairly clear that they don't care to give those concessions. LOL

That's not necessarily true McCain. Putin probably would accept peace without getting everything he wants. And the attitudes of Ukrainians are changing, particularly the ones in the eastern and southern parts of the country who are most affected by the war.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/653495/...d-end-war.aspx

Also, there's polling conducted between 2015 and 2021 by Western and Ukrainian organizations that indicate the majority of people in areas currently occupied by Russia would have preferred affiliation with Russia, either as an oblast or a territory, to Ukraine. Admittedly, there was also polling in the Donbas (but not to my knowledge in Crimea) that would indicate the opposite.

FYI, an oblast is like a state in the USA.

[Jacky S]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Yeah, by only giving Putin what he wants. I think the people of Ukraine have made it fairly clear that they don't care to give those concessions. LOL

Sure they have made it clear.

Then what?

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Tiny

That's not necessarily true McCain. Putin probably would accept peace without getting everything he wants. And the attitudes of Ukrainians are changing, particularly the ones in the eastern and southern parts of the country who are most affected by the war.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/653495/...d-end-war.aspx

Also, there's polling conducted between 2015 and 2021 by Western and Ukrainian organizations that indicate the majority of people in areas currently occupied by Russia would have preferred affiliation with Russia, either as an oblast or a territory, to Ukraine. Admittedly, there was also polling in the Donbas (but not to my knowledge in Crimea) that would indicate the opposite.

FYI, an oblast is like a state in the USA.

And there's a process in the Ukrainian constitution to address what they might want to happen. It doesn't involve Russia invading to seize control and running sham referendums.