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Old 10-07-2024, 02:44 PM   #76
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FEMA HAS NO AUTHORITY DUE TO Chevron deference
https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/s...eral-agencies/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c51ywwrq45qo
https://www.bakerdonelson.com/suprem...ext-for-fema?t

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Historically, the courts have had little involvement in review of the Federal Emergency Management Agency's (FEMA) decisions regarding the billions of dollars of federal disaster recovery funding that FEMA administers annually. Legal professionals typically discourage pursuing judicial review of a FEMA denial of funding due to the discretionary nature of most of FEMA's programs and also the high level of deference given to FEMA's interpretation and application of the laws that apply. However, the United States Supreme Court is expected to issue a ruling this month that may nullify years of precedent through the anticipated overturn of the namesake case for "Chevron deference." If this occurs, pursuing relief from an offensive FEMA denial through an action for judicial review in the courts could emerge as a new option.

For decades, federal agencies, like FEMA, have enjoyed significant deference from the courts regarding their interpretation of laws and regulations applicable to the program(s) they administer, a principle known as "Chevron deference" after the 1984 decision in Chevron v. National Resources Defense Council. In short, Chevron and its progeny establish that courts give deference to an agency's interpretation of the applicable law so long as the interpretation is: (i) issued by the agency charged with administering it; (ii) generally rational or reasonable; and (iii) given in a form that would have the force of law, like an adjudication or formal notice-and-comment rulemaking. Now this long-standing doctrine is under intense scrutiny as the Supreme Court of the United States considers two pivotal cases1 that could dismantle it.
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Old 10-07-2024, 03:03 PM   #77
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Old 10-07-2024, 05:18 PM   #78
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They lost me at “equity”.
Of course! LOLLING! Equity is a BAD WORD. Can't Make America Great Again if there's Equity! HAHAHAHAHAHAAH!



Ben, the link is good. Try it again.

https://www.fema.gov/disaster/curren...rumor-response

However, in case you don't want to, here's what's front facing on the page:

Hurricane Helene: Rumor Response

Help keep yourself, your family and your community safe after Hurricane Helene by being aware of rumors and scams and sharing official information from trusted sources.

Do your part to the stop the spread of rumors by doing three easy things:

Find trusted sources of information.
Share information from trusted sources.
Discourage others from sharing information from unverified sources.
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Rumor: FEMA only provides loans to disaster survivors.
Fact:
This is false. In most cases, FEMA grants do NOT have to be paid back.

There are some less common situations in which you may have to pay FEMA back if you receive duplicate benefits from insurance or a grant from another source. For example, if you have insurance that covers your temporary housing costs, but you ask FEMA to advance you some money to help you pay for those costs while your insurance is delayed, you will need to pay that money back to FEMA after you receive your insurance settlement.

If you are a homeowner or small business owner, low-interest disaster loans are also available from the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA) in a declared major disaster area. These loans may help with home repair or replacement, personal property, vehicles, mitigation, business losses, and working capital for small business and most private nonprofits. Learn more about SBA disaster loans.

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Rumor: Applying multiple times for disaster assistance will speed up the process of being approved.
Fact:
People need to apply for assistance one time per household. Do not re-submit or create a new application during the disaster assistance process. Submitting more than one application per disaster will cause delays.

You can check the status of your application or read any FEMA correspondence by accessing your DisasterAssistance.gov account or by calling the FEMA Helpline at 800-621-3362

October 6, 2024
Rumor: The FAA is restricting access to the airspace for Helene rescue and recovery operations.
Fact:
The FAA is not restricting access for recovery operations. The FAA is coordinating closely with state and local officials to make sure everyone is operating safely in very crowded and congested airspace.

Learn More from the FAA

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October 6, 2024
Rumor: FEMA distributes aid based on demographic characteristics.
Fact:
FEMA provides assistance to survivors regardless of race, color, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, religion, age, disability, English proficiency or economic status.

October 4, 2024
Rumor: FEMA is in the process of confiscating Helene survivor property. If I apply for disaster assistance and my land is deemed unlivable, my property will be seized.
Fact:
FEMA cannot seize your property or land. Applying for disaster assistance does not grant FEMA or the federal government authority or ownership of your property or land. When you apply for disaster assistance a FEMA inspector may be sent to verify the damage on your home. This is one of many factors reviewed to determine what kind of disaster assistance you may be eligible for. If the results of the inspection deem your home uninhabitable, that information is only used to determine the amount of FEMA assistance you may receive to make your home safe, sanitary and functional.

October 4, 2024
Rumor: FEMA is no longer accepting applications for housing assistance.
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FEMA is still accepting assistance applications throughout areas affected by Helene. For current application timelines, visit disasterassistance.gov. You can also see if applications are being accepted on FEMA’s state specific Helene disaster webpages; Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia.

October 4, 2024
Rumor: FEMA does not have enough money to provide disaster assistance for Helene.
Fact:
FEMA has enough money right now for immediate response and recovery needs. If you were affected by Helene, do not hesitate to apply for disaster assistance as there is a variety of help available for different needs.


October 3, 2024
Rumor: FEMA is asking for cash donations and turning away volunteers.
Fact:
This is false: FEMA does not ask for or generally accept any cash donations or volunteers for disaster response. We do encourage people who want to help to volunteer with or donate cash to reputable voluntary or charitable organizations. After a disaster, cash is often the best way to help as it provides the greatest flexibility for these reputable organizations working on the ground to purchase exactly what is needed.

If you encounter someone claiming to represent FEMA and asking for donations, be careful as that is likely a scam. Government employees will never solicit money.

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Learn more about how to help after a disaster: How to Help After Hurricane Helene

October 3, 2024
Rumor: Funding for FEMA disaster response was diverted to support international efforts or border related issues.
Fact:
This is false. No money is being diverted from disaster response needs. FEMA’s disaster response efforts and individual assistance is funded through the Disaster Relief Fund, which is a dedicated fund for disaster efforts. Disaster Relief Fund money has not been diverted to other, non-disaster related efforts.

October 3, 2024
Rumor: FEMA is confiscating donations for survivors.
Fact:
Rumors about FEMA turning away donations, stopping trucks or vehicles with donations, confiscating and seizing supplies often spread after a disaster. These are all false.

FEMA does not take donations and/or food from survivors or voluntary organizations. Donations of food, water, or other goods are handled by voluntary agencies who specialize in storing, sorting, cleaning, and distributing donated items.

FEMA does not conduct vehicle stops or handle road closures with armed guards -- those are done by local law enforcement.

Rumor: FEMA will only provide $750 to disaster survivors to support their recovery.
Fact:
This is false.

This is a type of assistance that you may be approved for soon after you apply, called Serious Needs Assistance. It is an upfront, flexible payment to help cover essential items like food, water, baby formula, breastfeeding supplies, medication and other emergency supplies. There are other forms of assistance that you may qualify for to receive and Serious Needs Assistance is an initial payment you may receive while FEMA assesses your eligibility for additional funds. As your application continues to be reviewed, you may still receive additional forms of assistance for other needs such as support for temporary housing, personal property and home repair costs. If you have questions about your disaster assistance application and what you qualify for, contact us at 1-800-621-3362 to speak with a FEMA representative in your language.

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https://x.com/dbongino/status/1843610481543786955?s=42

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Nothing Dan Bongino ever says is "Fact". Just another professional liar.
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https://t.me/c/1428896786/872099

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Nothing Dan Bongino ever says is "Fact". Just another professional liar.
Those were headlines from major MSM rags. Facts are facts.
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Those were headlines from major MSM rags. Facts are facts.
Why not link directly to them then?

Facts are not necessarily facts when filtered through social media accounts.
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Why not link directly to them then?

Facts are not necessarily facts when filtered through social media accounts.
Why don’t you?

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/18...442450454?s=42

BAHAHAHA
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I did, bud. In fact, I even pasted the corpus of that website into your post, just to clear up the lies you keep repeating over and over and over again.

If your man is kicking her ass like you say she is, then why repeat the lies?
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... As Bambino stated there, mate - all the FEMA money
is GONE! ... The FEMA money $$$$ went to housing and
feeding all the illegals on America's dime.

... Flying them in - just like first-class citizens.

... See? ... "Stay Woke - Stay Broke!"
What a Country! ...

#### Salty
Another completely, utterly, repeatedly debunked lie from the Trump camp.
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Another completely, utterly, repeatedly debunked lie from the Trump camp.
If you say so!!!!
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FEMA Disaster Preparedness Meeting: "We should focus our efforts on LGBTQIA people… they struggled before the storm" "FEMA relief is no longer about getting the greatest good for the greatest amount of people…. It's about disaster equity."

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Another completely, utterly, repeatedly debunked lie from the Trump camp.
So, you're sayin' that illegals from Haiti were NOT
flown in?? ... And NO actual FEMA money was used to
re-settle the illegals in America??

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Those were headlines from major MSM rags. Facts are facts.
Oh, so no more "fake news", then? Those days are gone, I guess? Interesting.
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