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Old 01-08-2024, 06:50 AM   #76
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Carson was a government official at the time and was granted this treatment because he was a government official


1 million people didn't die of covid. that false number has been debunked repeatedly here in this forum by me and several others


maybe 100,000 died directly of covid


the numbers were cooked on purpose to create the "fear factor" to induce the public to take a vaccine that is designed to INCREASE infections not prevent them.
There may have been some overcounting as you call it. But not by over 900,000 people. There may have been 100,000 CoVid deaths in New York state alone.

Are you implying that the CDC inflated the CoVid death count to make Trump look bad?

The M_RNA shot is just a specific sequence of Amino Acids and cannot increase infections. Where are you getting this from? Do you have a link?
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Old 01-08-2024, 07:57 AM   #77
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You should have seen this is your Biology 101 class.

DNA -----> RNA -----> Proteins

Antibodies ARE proteins. The antibody does not prevent disease, it fights or neutralizes disease to the point where the patient or infected person no longer shows symptoms. With SARS_CoV2 if your body can control or neutralize the spike protein component of the virus you will control the virus and clear the disease. This is done when the immune system of your body makes the antibody to SARS_COV2.

The message in the M-RNA shot that Moderna and Pfizer manufactured is a specific sequence of amino acids for the SPIKE protein. Although its injected into the muscle it will get into the blood stream. The immune system is then triggered to start making antibodies for the SPIKE protein component of SARS_COV2. The antibodies will fight off and and clear the disease caused by infection of SARS-CoV2 virus (also called CoVid19).

Trump and Dr Ben Carson both got infected with SARS_COV2 before the M_RNA vaccines were rolled out. Their immune system could not make the antibody to the SARS_COV2. They were both given the Regeneron antibodies. This treatment allowed both to recover from CO_VID.
You just described what the body does naturally. You don't need a vaccine for it to occur. In fact Vaccines do not replicate the immune response to natural viral infections.
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Old 01-08-2024, 08:16 AM   #78
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You just described what the body does naturally. You don't need a vaccine for it to occur.
Two questions for you.

If the body always does this naturally when infected by a foreign invader (Antigen) then why did (will use Waco Kids number) 100,000 unvaccinated people die after being infected with SARS_COV2 virus?

Why did Trump and Ben Carson get so sick and almost died from being infected with SARS_COV2 virus before getting the Regeneron antibodies? If the body always makes the antibody naturally, Trump and Carson would not have needed the Regeneron Antibodies treatment.

If what you stated were true there would be no need to take all the vaccince shots before being allowed into public school.

There would never be a death from Aids, Seasonal Flu, SARS_COV2 or any other virus that humans get infected with.

The body always makes the antibody when infected with the virus that causes the common cold. There are other viruses that the body is not able to make the antibody naturally, SARS_COV2 and the virus that causes AIDS are just two of them.
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Old 01-08-2024, 08:17 AM   #79
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Fauci goes before a House committee this week.

Efery time he te4stifies, he reminds me of a kid trying to explain his way out of trouble. . .. knowing you he has been caught.
Every time Fauci testifies it reminds me of Galileo’s trial for heresy by the Catholic Church
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You just described what the body does naturally. You don't need a vaccine for it to occur. In fact Vaccines do not replicate the immune response to natural viral infections.
What do you think the flu vaccine that a large portion of the american population get, does when it is injected?

You are not very well associated with vaccinations and why/ how they work sir.

Any infection or virus introduced in the body- creates a response. The dead virus from a vaccine creates a response, without triggering a full viral infection, because the virus is either dead or deactivated- rendered harmless. But the response begins the same way, whether it's live or dead- the body sees it' and creates antibodies to fight it.

Someone missed out on a few science classes, and certainly a few biology classes.
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What do you think the flu vaccine that a large portion of the american population get, does when it is injected?

You are not very well associated with vaccinations and why/ how they work sir.

Any infection or virus introduced in the body- creates a response. The dead virus from a vaccine creates a response, without triggering a full viral infection, because the virus is either dead or deactivated- rendered harmless. But the response begins the same way, whether it's live or dead- the body sees it' and creates antibodies to fight it.

Someone missed out on a few science classes, and certainly a few biology classes.
I've taken not only Biology Classes but Pathology courses as well. It's obvious to me you aren't familiar with how people become sick with viruses.
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Old 01-08-2024, 09:49 AM   #82
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I've taken not only Biology Classes but Pathology courses as well. It's obvious to me you aren't familiar with how people become sick with viruses.
Did you scream obscenities from the back of the classroom when the professor (right) presented their lecture?

Because based on what you’ve posted in this never ending story — that would make perfect sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5mjsMEMmoQ?si=Hv1_SnrMvEAwj21 p
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Old 01-08-2024, 09:58 AM   #83
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I've taken not only Biology Classes but Pathology courses as well. It's obvious to me you aren't familiar with how people become sick with viruses.
well, in staying within the original posting intent, perhaps you can enlighten the rest of the readership on your knowledge of pathogens and how people become sick from them, vs. vaccines, and remember that this is about Covid Lab leak Theory, but I'm assuming since you've claimed to have the knowledge you'll be able to craft a reply that is both informative and on topic.
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Old 01-08-2024, 10:15 AM   #84
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How can injecting a substance which is mostly toxic into a muscle going to train the human immune system to recognize and prevent a viral infection? Secondly injections by pass the immune system all together with substances the body can't even use to enhance or aid the immune system to combat a disease.
LOL- clearly- not the expert on this science. There is no bypass of the immune system- but to trigger a response from the immune system. Tell me you don't know how a vaccine works without telling me you don't know.
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I am not buying into the so called "Lab Leak Theory".
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LOL- clearly- not the expert on this science. There is no bypass of the immune system- but to trigger a response from the immune system. Tell me you don't know how a vaccine works without telling me you don't know.
How does a person contract a virus and become ill? Think about that basic premise first.
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How does a person contract a virus and become ill? Think about that basic premise first.
Can't say this isn't exactly what I expected! Called out,...and you got nothing on either how vaccines create a response, and how they work. I'd imagine that the pathogens classes you took were either a LONG time ago, or you slept through them; referencing the title of the thread about the lab leak being confirmed....why don't you enlighten the readers here on your thoughts there.


Do you have any proof of the strain of virus being lab created or from natural evolution?
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Any infection or virus introduced in the body- creates a response. The dead virus from a vaccine creates a response, without triggering a full viral infection, because the virus is either dead or deactivated- rendered harmless. But the response begins the same way, whether it's live or dead- the body sees it' and creates antibodies to fight it.
+1

Well said. You have described the traditional vaccine and the response mechanism. The M-RNA shot from Moderna and Pfizer are not really vaccines (in the true sense of the word). However, the goal or objective is the same (trigger an immune response to make the antibody).
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Can't say this isn't exactly what I expected! Called out,...and you got nothing on either how vaccines create a response, and how they work. I'd imagine that the pathogens classes you took were either a LONG time ago, or you slept through them; referencing the title of the thread about the lab leak being confirmed....why don't you enlighten the readers here on your thoughts there.


Do you have any proof of the strain of virus being lab created or from natural evolution?
I'll ask again, How does a person contract a virus to cause illness? I am asking that question because if the virus was leaked from a Lab how did it enter into the population to cause a Pandemic?
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#6 - Respect the topics presented by those who start a thread. Attempts to derail a thread or change it's direction is referred to as thread hijack and will be discouraged. Attempts to guide a thread in the right direction are appreciated, while responses to posts which hijack a thread are not.
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