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Old 07-24-2021, 03:24 PM   #76
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I’ll concede your point. So why is it illegal to have sex with someone when you have HIV?

The simple answer is that 21 states decided this one disease, ( you'll notice I didn't add it to my list ) should have a law to make it illegal to have sex without telling your partner or partner's, that you have HIV.

29 states however did not create that law. For the rational, you would have to talk to the legislator's that decided they needed this law.

It is possible but not likely, since we now have a vaccine, that a law could be written to say if you test positive for Covid and knowingly violate a mask mandate , you have violated the law and could be punished. Here in Florida, in the early days of Covid, Miami Beach, started handing out tickets to people violating the masking law but the Governor stepped in and said fines would not be allowed.

I see where a couple of cities like St. Louis have now put mask mandates back into affect but I don't see any information whether tickets with fines will be given out.

Point is, it is up to the people and their Representatives in State Houses to decide this, not the federal government.


To the point of Fox news people now openly suggesting that people get vaccinated, it is not hypocrisy because none of them ever said "don't get vaccinated while having been vaccinated themselves", that I am aware of. From the very beginning, people like Tucker and Hannity were standing up for people's rights, they weren't telling people to not get vaccinated but they were saying things like "some people are having adverse affects" which of course the Biden administration did not want being aired. Telling people that your government may not always be telling you the truth, was a constant for 4 years of the Trump administration but when the media is on the side of the current President, all of a sudden, "you may not speak ill of or offer an opinion different than the current administration wants" is the new law punishable by banishment from social media.


That is the definition of hypocrisy.
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Old 07-24-2021, 04:08 PM   #77
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For 4 years it was “Trump isn’t telling the truth” and since everyone in his administration tried to support his lies, they couldn’t be trusted to be honest if the truth differed from what Trump said or wasn’t in his political interest. But you know the difference even though you’ll never concede that. Also no one railed against the govt more than conservatives and conservatives media even while Trump was president. It was just couched as deep state and antiTrumpers.
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Old 07-24-2021, 04:50 PM   #78
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maoist DPST party demands vaccination of all - including babies - to demonstrate obedience to the Party.



republicans see a medical issue - and a matter of choice depending on many facotrs.
Including individual freedom.



maoist DPST's party has politicized a medical issue - with their frontman fauci, and as fiden did as the Xinn townhalll - Lies out the wazoo.


When fiden claims Trump had nothing to do with teh vaccine - I would not trust a maoist DPST doorknocker/armwringer// to be honest about the vaccine either.



so pleased to explain it the maoist/obedient DPST contingent.

You won't believe anything i have to write regardless.
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Old 07-24-2021, 05:00 PM   #79
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I’ll concede your point. So why is it illegal to have sex with someone when you have HIV?

so pleased to explain it to you.

not that One will believe me - Regardless - and that is just fine on my part.

One may lead a thirsty donkey to water - but it is impossible to force the donkey to drink of the water of reason and logic.


No - it is not illegal to have sex with another person when One has HIV.

With HIV infection of of a person/patient -Informed consent is required of the un infected partner -

there are many people with HIV - some married -some who have partners with whom they have sex. some practice unprotected sex.



The crucial act is to inform the uninfected partner, and preferably to seek medical management in preventing HIV transmission.
any individuals HIV status is protected by Hippa and medical confidentiality laws.

That privacy is of less importance than informed consent when concerning an HIV positive patient seeking a sexual relationship with another individual.

HIV used to be poorly treatable - and was regarded as ultimately a death sentence. Now - with modern , current therapy - many patients with HIV may have non-detectable viral loads - and it is thought by some medical authorities - to pose no risk of transmission. Even so - to have unprotected sex without informing a partner - when has HIV - is considered an assault, and a criminal act in many states. To sexually transmit an incurable , and potentially fatal infection - without the knowledge of teh partner - has been consider attempted murder. If teh partner dies of HIV transmitted from the infected partner without informed consent , has been prosecuted as murder, and subject to significant prison penalties in either case. .


note - to have Gavin Newsome as a partner is excluded -AnyOne so dumb as to be his partner...........
no assertion, specific or implied - regarding the medical status of gavin newsome - is implied or specified in this post.


I do hope this helps raise teh level of knowledge, and lessen the lack of knowledge (ignorance), which causes fear, which results in hatred.
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Old 07-24-2021, 05:18 PM   #80
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For 4 years it was “Trump isn’t telling the truth” and since everyone in his administration tried to support his lies, they couldn’t be trusted to be honest if the truth differed from what Trump said or wasn’t in his political interest. But you know the difference even though you’ll never concede that. Also no one railed against the govt more than conservatives and conservatives media even while Trump was president. It was just couched as deep state and antiTrumpers.



if One watched the recent fiden Xinn townhall - He spoke essentially nothing but Lies.

easily documentable Lies.

example - while the Squad demands Defunding of the Police - fiden claims it was always , and only a republican issue to Defund the Police.

A fiden faced Lie.



Really - So - 1b1 - do you believe fiden?????
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Old 07-24-2021, 05:24 PM   #81
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Except when it affects others. No one has a right to walk around being a vector for a disease.

Nonetheless as I’ve expressed since it’s generally Trumpys and religinuts and Republican idiots I don’t care that they are killing one another. It’s now the right begging them to get vaccinated because killing your own is bad politics.

1b1 - I have no doubt You have 'walked around' with a common cold at at leat One point in One's life. .
a 'cold' is a coronavirus family of infection.

That qualifies you, and anyone else who has done so - including myself - as a 'vector for disease'
While your statement makes some sense - it depends on the disease.
Typhoid Mary is an example. .


Please stop the insulting, and demeaning references to Conservatives as subhumans not worthy of living in the new socialist paradise the maoist DPST party plans to inflict.

It reflects on You - as the same techniques were used by goebbels/Hilter in 1930's Germany.

and AntiSemitic racism is endemic in the maoist DPST party.
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Old 07-24-2021, 05:24 PM   #82
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I’ll concede your point. So why is it illegal to have sex with someone when you have HIV?

so pleased to explain it to you.

not that One will believe me - Regardless - and that is just fine on my part.

One may lead a thirsty donkey to water - but it is impossible to force the donkey to drink of the water of reason and logic.


No - it is not illegal to have sex with another person when One has HIV.

With HIV infection of of a person/patient -Informed consent is required of the un infected partner -

there are many people with HIV - some married -some who have partners with whom they have sex. some practice unprotected sex.



The crucial act is to inform the uninfected partner, and preferably to seek medical management in preventing HIV transmission.
any individuals HIV status is protected by Hippa and medical confidentiality laws.

That privacy is of less importance than informed consent when concerning an HIV positive patient seeking a sexual relationship with another individual.

HIV used to be poorly treatable - and was regarded as ultimately a death sentence. Now - with modern , current therapy - many patients with HIV may have non-detectable viral loads - and it is thought by some medical authorities - to pose no risk of transmission. Even so - to have unprotected sex without informing a partner - when has HIV - is considered an assault, and a criminal act in many states. To sexually transmit an incurable , and potentially fatal infection - without the knowledge of teh partner - has been consider attempted murder. If teh partner dies of HIV transmitted from the infected partner without informed consent , has been prosecuted as murder, and subject to significant prison penalties in either case. .


note - to have Gavin Newsome as a partner is excluded -AnyOne so dumb as to be his partner...........
no assertion, specific or implied - regarding the medical status of gavin newsome - is implied or specified in this post.


I do hope this helps raise teh level of knowledge, and lessen the lack of knowledge (ignorance), which causes fear, which results in hatred.
Can you provide a translation of your post for our English speaking members?
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Old 07-24-2021, 08:25 PM   #83
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For 4 years it was “Trump isn’t telling the truth” and since everyone in his administration tried to support his lies, they couldn’t be trusted to be honest if the truth differed from what Trump said or wasn’t in his political interest. But you know the difference even though you’ll never concede that. Also no one railed against the govt more than conservatives and conservatives media even while Trump was president. It was just couched as deep state and antiTrumpers.

And now the Biden administration and their media mouth pieces can be trusted? That's some alternate reality you live in. Do you still think Adam Schiff has evidence of a Trump/ Russia conspiracy but he just can't share classified information? Never mind, you'll never concede the point.

No matter which party is in power, don't trust, verify.

And remember, the border is closed!!!!!!! No matter what your lying eyes are telling you.
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Old 07-25-2021, 06:49 AM   #84
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As usual. You dodge. It’s fine. I’ve gotten used to and rather tired of it.
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Old 07-25-2021, 10:40 AM   #86
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Old 07-25-2021, 09:42 PM   #88
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As usual. You dodge. It’s fine. I’ve gotten used to and rather tired of it.

Dodge what? And I'm getting tired of people who think I can read their fucking minds. Ask me a straight up question and I'll give you a straight up answer. Always have, always will. I don't dodge anything, ever.

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That covers anything and everything you were asking.
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