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Originally Posted by lustylad
If you could learn how to dial it back, stop exaggerating, refrain from mindless generalizations, and keep things in proper historical perspective, we might actually be able to agree on a few points.
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I asked you what your definition of a fascist was because, clearly, you and I define it differently.
1) The Romanian and Polish Governments are currently hated by the Eurocrat fascist.
2) Commmunism is a subset of what I would consider fascism. Nazis were/are a subset of fascism. Communism and Naziism were made from the same molds(Continental Europe). Hitler ordered his recruiters to try to get communist as members because he understood the underlying theology was exactly the same.
3) Fascist around the world have the following characteristics:
a) Destruction of individualism.
b) Use of hate for political means.
c) Central control of culture development.
d) Central control of the economy
e) Direct government benefit to the controlling power group. Notably, the restriction of the benefits to those not in the power group. This gets more coercive as the government grows in importance to the economy.
f) The belief that the controlling power group has the inalienable right to control others, both inside and outside their own country.
g) The belief that anything is justified to make the controlling power group sustainable, and that the loss of control by the controlling power group would be worth the destruction of individuals(1, 10, 100, 1000,...).
h) Individual adherence to the power group policy is required. Dogma is sacrosanct. Failure to adhere is treason. The Dogma is defined by the elite.
These descriptors are discussed in several books about fascism. I would suggest you read some.
These descriptors also describe many of the current continental European governments, and certainly describes the Eurofascist in Brussels.
Your description of the voluntary "help" provided by the continental Europeans is at direct odds with my discussions concerning their net effect with military personnel at all levels. The British chose(and did) help us tremendously. The others did not.
The Spanish destroyer in the Persian Gulf just departed the task force. They gave a specific reason. I'd suggest your look it up.
What risks were being taken by pilots dropping bombs on ISIS with american fighters providing CAP?
You don't have to like my opinions. Mine are based on extensive interaction with Europeans, both on a personal level, and business level. The reason I write here is because I can expose such things without retribution. We have gotten to the state of evolution of fascism that it would be career suicide to have such discussion with most of the folks.
I think the Europeans ought to embrace who they are, and be what they are going to be. We ought to trade with them, exchange travelers, and be nice to each other. My disagreement is that they have a propensity to force their stupidity on others(us). Their stupidity caused 100,000,000++ violent deaths in the last century, and they are the cause of much of the instability in the world.
We ought to be who we are, and be smart about who we trust. Europeans have demonstrated repeatedly that they are not trustworthy.
I would do almost anything to expose the hatred, bigotry, and fascism of the people represented by wtf, themystic, etc. You all argue by name calling. I argue by using accurate, descriptive, harsh but factually correct, labels for behavior, concepts and ideas. It is important to put this stupidity in historical context, because it is the same stupidity being repeated.
The current argument tactic by all sides is to name call using socially derogatory, inflammatory, inaccurate labels, and to threaten people's livelihood, life, and friends to get the enemy to shut up.
My way is better.
I guess my point is that you can take your advice and go fuck yourself. Block me. Others have. If I say what I know to be judgements based on fact, I have done nothing wrong, and it is their loss.
I have a simple question on democracy. Are the Democratic primaries democracy in action, or are they like Communist "democracy"?
WTF, et.al. and the Europeans are in complete alignment on why Bush JR instigated the invasion of Iraq.
