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Old 06-18-2011, 09:58 AM   #76
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I will say the drama factor CAN BE just as high with TS's. That is not a reason I see them. And getting a TS/M/F is difficult. A papal act almost.
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:08 AM   #77
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For some reason, the thought of my clients being with other men or transexuals gives me the heebie jeebies!

I stopped seeing one of my ATFs recently because I found out he had sex with a guy. I am such a heterosexual woman, the thought of a less-than-heterosexual man turns me off big time. I am drawn towards strong, dominant, masculine men because I am so inherently feminine.

So whoever mentioned that some guys dont admit they see TS out of fear that some ladies wont see them anymore, unfortunately that is a valid fear.

I recognize that the hypocracy of my viewpoint could easily be turned around on me, being that I am a provider (an unconventional lifestyle), but.... It is what it is. If a guy I see is into guys, he'd better keep that info classified
I.m pretty sure that most of your ATF's are seeing transsexual providers.And something else that would surprise you is most of your masculine guy's are letting the Transsexuals fuck them!!! Most guy's that see Transsexual providers don't visit "Real girls" because they can get that for free anywhere they pay to see Transsexual providers because it is hard to find a passable TS in the real world.GG's need to realize that they have some competition Guy's are getting tiered of all the drama associated with GG's they are willing to go to TS providers to get away from what they are getting from the GG's in their lives
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Old 06-18-2011, 12:26 PM   #78
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I.m pretty sure that most of your ATF's are seeing transsexual providers.

Most guy's that see Transsexual providers don't visit "Real girls" because they can get that for free anywhere they pay to see Transsexual providers because it is hard to find a passable TS in the real world.
You kinda contradicted yourself. Most of my clients are seeing transexuals AND most of them dont pay for genetic females?? Then how did they meet me??

And all it takes is some drama from a woman to drive a straight man to see a TS?

I would love to hear from some straight guys to know if thats correct or not. I've had many real world relationships with men that involved drama and it never once crossed my mind to see transexuals or become a lesbian.
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Old 06-18-2011, 01:12 PM   #79
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It is hard to believe that you can paint any one group of guys and their interests with such broad strokes Dog. It would seem more plausible to state the desire to see TSs are varied and individual, just like the desire to visit a provider in general.

I do agree however that a guy would have many more outlets to access a GG outside the hobby, as opposed to an attractive TS. I think many guys are simply curious and adventurous, and broad-minded enough to explore and embrace an (extra)ordinary experience that's out of the norm.

It escapes me why anyone would want to detract from that, although I know that people find comfort and safety in hardline distinctions. Some of the ladies(and gents) try to marginalize TSs by calling them 'guys with tits'. But Alfred Kinsey found definitively long ago that sexuality(and gender I would assume) is fluid, and filled with shades of grey.
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Old 06-18-2011, 02:27 PM   #80
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No man should ever feel gay or be considered gay just because he likes the feeling of having his anus stimulated, regardless of the object - cocks included. Both men and women have the exact same anal nerve endings which are tremendously and pleasurably sensitive.

Homosexuality is a genetically determined orientation and involves not only sexual, but also emotional preference for someone of the same gender. Choosing to have occasional sexual encounters or even relationships with someone of the same gender or a TS does not make a person gay.

Alecia, I am SO with you! While I love and appreciate the female human form, I have never been sexually attracted to women. The thought of doing a gorgeous chick with a dick and some big ol' hooters, though, is a real turn on. Thanks for the fantasy! :-P
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:21 PM   #81
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You kinda contradicted yourself. Most of my clients are seeing transexuals AND most of them dont pay for genetic females?? Then how did they meet me??

And all it takes is some drama from a woman to drive a straight man to see a TS?

I would love to hear from some straight guys to know if that's correct or not. I've had many real world relationships with men that involved drama and it never once crossed my mind to see transsexuals or become a lesbian.
Let me rephrase myself I think you would be surprised at how many strait nice looking muscular men see TS providers. I never said all of them were, I know that TS girls are not for every guy.Speaking strictly for myself I never had the need to pay to see a hot GG I have been able to get hot girls on my own (I'm a rock musician) My own attraction to TS providers started because I have done everything you can imagine sexually with women.Now that being said I would never have sex with a guy that doesn't turn me on at all and I do not consider TS girls guy's and me personally I never play the bottom roll, However I was surprised to find out that most guy's who see TS providers are playing the bottom and that's cool I couldn't care less. Now here are a few things I know for a fact,TS providers are doing major business due to the fact that TS porn is fast becoming one of the biggest sellers in the industry.Also 20 years ago women who did not consider themselves lesbians began having sex with other women some even brought other women into their sexual relationship with their boyfriends and husbands once that kind of thing became the norm it was bound to open the door for a totally new sexual thing and I believe that TS girls are that new thing,So lets all get together 5 years from now and see if I'm on to something.I never meant to offend anyone and apologize if my previous comments did that to anyone
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Old 06-18-2011, 04:48 PM   #82
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I like the train of thought both racitraci and Justme are going down. I don't see myself as gay or bi. It leads to our own tendency to classify and categorize that we do not understand. Everything in our perfect little world must be classified and compartmentalized and sectioned off to make sense of it all. Open up. Just be not try to be. Possibilities abound once you shed these modern day restraints on the way things are supposed to be.
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:50 PM   #83
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My comments were not meant to offend but rather to defend both the TS providers and their clients
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:12 PM   #84
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It would appear to me that a gay guy, or even a bi for that matter, would have no interest whatsoever in a TS. Gay men are only interested in men just like themselves, no? Seems foolish to try to demonize TS clients and admirers as being 'gay', and TSs as being 'guys'. And seems to smack of latent homophobia, just saying. But we live in America, and everyone is entitled to their opinion, right? lol

And Dog you hit on something, more than a few guys have told me that they've had so much pussy that they just get bored with it after awhile, and want to try something new. Don't see why we all can't just live and let live.
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Amen racitraci I wanted to point out your exact thoughts earlier
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Old 06-19-2011, 12:37 AM   #86
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FYI: The term "shemale" is considered extremely derogatory and most transwomen take great offense to the term; myself included.
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Old 06-19-2011, 12:59 AM   #87
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I wholeheartedly AGREE! WALDT and such no one should ever be judged for the sexual preferences they enjoy and or how they enjoy them.
I would rather enjoy being with a man who's NOT afraid to explore & enjoy his deepest hidden sexual desires. Over a man who's closed minded and judgmental and fucking boring in bed.




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Homosexuality is a genetically determined orientation and involves not only sexual, but also emotional preference for someone of the same gender. Choosing to have occasional sexual encounters or even relationships with someone of the same gender or a TS does not make a person gay.

Alecia, I am SO with you! While I love and appreciate the female human form, I have never been sexually attracted to women. The thought of doing a gorgeous chick with a dick and some big ol' hooters, though, is a real turn on. Thanks for the fantasy! :-P
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:16 AM   #88
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The M/f/f part is easy. Finding a credible TS who is up for it...Im still working on that.
Just let me know when you do, and I'd love to be the M at the gathering!
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FYI: The term "shemale" is considered extremely derogatory and most transwomen take great offense to the term; myself included.
Thanks! I truly did not know that!
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