Specials, Discounts, and Austin Rates in General

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by quzi

Just updated my TDL.

Austin: 44 providers (11 at $250 or less)
Killeen: 6 providers, all $250 or less
San Antonio: 31 providers (22 at $250 or less)
touring providers: 32 providers (16 at $250 or less)

and the repeat list is like 45+ providers long... FML

Maybe you should send that list to Ztonk and see if he could "Sticky" it in a new threads and call it "Austin's best Value Providers"... It would make for a great reference and starting point for others....

Too many newbies land here and think they have to pay more and jump through hoops to do it.... that contributes to prices increasing.....

[quzi]

Originally Posted by Whispers

Maybe you should send that list to Ztonk and see if he could "Sticky" it in a new threads and call it "Austin's best Value Providers"... It would make for a great reference and starting point for others....

Too many newbies land here and think they have to pay more and jump through hoops to do it.... that contributes to prices increasing.....

Old ML thread that's ~3 years old: https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1096863
For those that don't have access, SFYL.

[tzv13]

This is a great thread with excellent advice, input, and viewpoints. I hope that more ladies see this.

[kissmytulips]

Ooooh that's a nice way to break it down, thanks for the insight.

Originally Posted by 3daygetaway

Why would they be up in arms? It's true. Time is a variable here; one that expires and can never be replaced.

That being said, airline logic can also be made to work against the hobbiest: if mornings and early afternoon are "slow" times and evenings/nights busier, those slots could sell for much more than $300/hr, if the seat became a bidding war. Likewise, by being less available, only hobbying two days per week, they decrease supply, thus forcing the demand to increase.

I think the providers are keenly aware of market forces, but where the airlines and providers misjudge the market potential is in surveying their customers. No one has asked me what it would take to hobby more often; and presumably, that is the hidden message of this thread. So, fellas, let's let them know: don't post your complaint; post your budget and expectations.

Example from my personal budget:
If FBSM were 45 minutes @ $100, I'd get one every 11 days
If gfe were available for 60 mins @ $180, I'd get one every 14 days
If pse were available for 30 mins @ $150, I'd get one every 30 days
If a truly unique experience were available for 90 mins @ $300, I'd get one every 45 days
If overnights were available @ $500, I'd get them every 90 days
If bng were available @ $50, I'd get one every 4 days
If a quickvisit were available @ $75, I'd get one every 21 days
If flights in the contiguous US were round-trip for $120, I'd go somewhere every 14 days.

[hotthencold2009]

The higher prices are to deter scum bags who don't have a lick of respect. Safety in my mind is number one for a provider so it's understandable.

[The Infamous One]

Originally Posted by hotthencold2009

The higher prices are to deter scum bags who don't have a lick of respect. Safety in my mind is number one for a provider so it's understandable.

Exactly! We risk rape, eviction, jail time, divorce, custody issues, public and private humiliation, stigma, assault, robbery, sti's, stalkers, being outted, a guy that doesn't know to trim his nails & causes our precious parts discomfort, or wipe his ass causing really awkward sessions or not washing his junk/hands after he pees & us getting hooker flu, providing a place to do all of this, condoms, lube, extravagant water bills (kidding kinda) being out of commission for days if the pipe is too big. I take all that,my bcd skill level, education, looks etc. all into consideration. If you are new and I haven't built trust with you that you are going to be a good safe client my rates are staying jacked up. Now once I know you, I'll lower them or add extra time, go to dinner off the clock, shoot the shit, offer match making services if I'm not around, do little fun stuff like drawings or contests to keep it fun. Ya just gotta ask for what you want in a respectable way with a lady you have repore with. Chances are she's going to hook you up if she can.

[SofaKingFun]

Originally Posted by Eryn

Please tell your misinformed friend that no, us Eccie bitches run specials too! Did I mention I'm on sale tomorrow??

ThreAd! Heh!

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[TehRyc]

Originally Posted by The Infamous One

Exactly! We risk rape, eviction, jail time, divorce, custody issues, public and private humiliation, stigma, assault, robbery, sti's, stalkers, being outted, a guy that doesn't know to trim his nails & causes our precious parts discomfort, or wipe his ass causing really awkward sessions or not washing his junk/hands after he pees & us getting hooker flu, providing a place to do all of this, condoms, lube, extravagant water bills (kidding kinda) being out of commission for days if the pipe is too big

Technically, besides "being out of commission because the pipe is too big", the rest of those risks are applied to monger as well. We run the same risk and complications from being "outed", "muscled by a pimp", or "Not washing your private parts after your last client". And its not like if the police barge in they are going to haul away the provider and not the John. Both of you will be fighting a decent amount of charges.

Both parties in this hobby face pretty level risks.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by TehRyc

Both parties in this hobby face pretty level risks.

True.... Similar risks.....

However most guys have far more to lose..... professionally, financially and relationship wise......

Most whores have nothing except their whore business..... Many have already lost primary custody of kids.... almost none own homes..s have money in the bank...etc.....

[Killeeninformer2]

So I have two thoughts on this.

From a hobbyiest perspective one thing I've noticed using various different venues (Old BP, CL, SB lightly, and of course Eccie) is that a provider's price has almost NO on the quality of service, menu, TCB, and only marginally affects looks. I've had absolutely wonderful meetups for $80-100 and I've had awful disappointments for $400. (before anyone brings it up the $400 disappointment was from eccie.) In fact I'm thinking of my three best hobby experiences and two of them were CL girls for $80 and $100 respectively.

Where this leaves me is that while searching for new girls this hobby is a huge gamble. If I'm paying the old standard of 160 hhr it's not much a gamble to see if I click with a new friend. If the barrier for entry (heh) is $300 where I might actually have an abysmal time I'm going to be far less likely to take that gamble.

And reviews are unfortunately not a reliable way of telling if I'll have a good time. Leaving aside the old saw of 'different strokes, different folks' there are plenty of guys who are bad actors in the sense that they'll post a good review and advertise for girls in return for favors, plenty of guys who are WKs, and way more guys who are just hesitant to post a 'no' review.

However from a provider's perspective I can see why they have higher rates. And what I think a lot of guys are missing is that the rising rates isn't a purely economic issue. How much they charge in relation to other girls can be very much a question of self worth. If provider A is charging 300 and provider B sees the success she's having while B is charging 200 I have to wonder if it's an ego hit to stay at the lower rate. Is provider B acknowledging a lower self worth than provider A?

As for people saying that if she had a lower rate she would have more business... well you're correct. But depending on the provider that might not be the goal. Even if she isn't affected by having to see 6 guys where before she would see 1 or 2 in the same period having to screw for that long every day does take a physical toll. I can see why some girls are charging high rates since they only need one or two to 'make quota.'

Basically I won't condemn them for it like some other people here would. I'm just less likely to take that first gamble.

[Guest010218]

Originally Posted by Killeeninformer2

So I have two thoughts on this.

From a hobbyiest perspective one thing I've noticed using various different venues (Old BP, CL, SB lightly, and of course Eccie) is that a provider's price has almost NO on the quality of service, menu, TCB, and only marginally affects looks.

I concur.

And reviews are unfortunately not a reliable way of telling if I'll have a good time.

Yes, that is a sad reality, in my opinion.

If provider A is charging 300 and provider B sees the success she's having while B is charging 200 I have to wonder if it's an ego hit to stay at the lower rate. Is provider B acknowledging a lower self worth than provider A?

I've head several say the same thing. The question the provider should ask is what has the increased rate done to the lady's business, and is she getting as much revenue now as she did before the price increase. If the goal is fewer clients because of RW obligations, this may be OK.

As for people saying that if she had a lower rate she would have more business... well you're correct. But depending on the provider that might not be the goal.

I have heard some say they are increasing their rates as they have more business than they can handle, and to discourage newbies which require more screening and involve more risk.

While some will jack up their rates for newbies and for those who they seeing her for the first time, they hold their legacy rates for the current clients. Or in some cases, they don't grandfather their current clients and simply charge what the market will bare.

Basically I won't condemn them for it like some other people here would. I'm just less likely to take that first gamble.

I agree and this is why I research, research and research providers, so I will not be gambling. And, this is why I normally see ladies who have established track records and who I have previously met face-to-face first. Yes, I often miss the latest hot lady who is making a splash in ATX, but I don't find myself sitting in a parking lot queue when she is running late, waiting for my turn and getting to high-five the last guy as I am walking up to the incall.

Good post.

[Cap'n Crunch]

"but I don't find myself sitting in a parking lot queue when she is running late, waiting for my turn and getting to high-five the last guy as I am walking up to the incall."

LOL

[Observing]

Saw a well respected Provider here offer a special to a poster with only bp reviews to come see her...

[Cap'n Crunch]

Originally Posted by Killeeninformer2

However from a provider's perspective I can see why they have higher rates. And what I think a lot of guys are missing is that the rising rates isn't a purely economic issue. How much they charge in relation to other girls can be very much a question of self worth. If provider A is charging 300 and provider B sees the success she's having while B is charging 200 I have to wonder if it's an ego hit to stay at the lower rate. Is provider B acknowledging a lower self worth than provider A?

Good providers who charge less, don't have lower self-worth; they are just making smart, rational, business decisions.

Should a guy who thinks his self-worth is off the charts, say that he should get a big discount based on his self-worth? No. But that is no different than a girl wanting a premium, purely based on her own sense of self-worth. Now, some girls will charge more to create the illusion that they are a premium product. That is a marketing ploy; not really based on self-worth.

[Cap'n Crunch]

Originally Posted by Killeeninformer2

e more business... well you're correct. But depending on the provider that might not be the goal. Even if she isn't affected by having to see 6 guys where before she would see 1 or 2 in the same period having to screw for that long every day does take a physical toll. I can see why some girls are charging high rates since they only need one or two to 'make quota.'

I do not believe this thread is particularly targeting those girls who want to see fewer clients. I believe this thread is intended to discuss finding that sweet spot for providers and clients alike.

As we stand now, many guys are very unhappy with the trajectory of provider prices. Some are even leaving the hobby altogether. The hope is rational discussion can lead to more happy people getting laid