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should wealthy Americans be allowed to collect Social Security?
yes,
they paid into it, right?>
a better question is,"should non-citizens (immigrants) get social security?
they do, they get money and they havent paid into the system
so why are we giving them money?
a better question is,"should non-citizens (immigrants) get social security?
they do, they get money and they havent paid into the system
so why are we giving them money?
because the libtard leftists want them to get the tax dollars of real Americans.
it's Saturday night at the Mexican cantina, in south Dallas. Maria, a hot fresh young whore is playing Juan and Julio off each other for tips. Juan gets pissed off Julio has just robbed a liquor store and has big cash to spend on Maria to fuck him. Juan pulls a knife and stabs Julio. Julio pulls a gun and shoots Juan. they both end up at Parkland and get sewed up by American doctors.
because the libtard leftists want them to get the tax dollars of real Americans.
it's Saturday night at the Mexican cantina, in south Dallas. Maria, a hot fresh young whore is playing Juan and Julio off each other for tips. Juan gets pissed off Julio has just robbed a liquor store and has big cash to spend on Maria to fuck him. Juan pulls a knife and stabs Julio. Julio pulls a gun and shoots Juan. they both end up at Parkland and get sewed up by American doctors.
because the libtard leftists want them to get the tax dollars of real Americans.
it's Saturday night and blah blah, I didnt answerr anyone's question
that is not an answer to what I asked
why are we giving non-citizens,money?
they are paroled into the use, mostly from cuba, but why are we giving them money?> https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/lis...LE/suggested/1
No. he posted he was in the top tax bracket. which means he DOES makes 400k a year. or .. he isn't in the top tax bracket. which is it?
2015 tax brackets (for taxes due April 15, 2016)
Tax rate Single filers Married filing jointly or qualifying widow/widower Married filing separately Head of household
10% Up to $9,225 Up to $18,450 Up to $9,225 Up to $13,150
15% $9,226 to $37,450 $18,451 to $74,900 $9,226 to $37,450 $13,151 to $50,200
25% $37,451 to $90,750 $74,901 to $151,200 $37,451 to $75,600 $50,201 to $129,600
28% $90,751 to $189,300 $151,201 to $230,450 $75,601 to $115,225 $129,601 to $209,850
33% $189,301 to $411,500 $230,451 to $411,500 $115,226 to $205,750 $209,851 to $411,500
35% $411,501 to $413,200 $411,501 to $464,850 $205,751 to $232,425 $411,501 to $439,000 39.6%$413,201 or more$464,851 or more$232,426 or more$439,001 or more
I believe that if you put in you should get back what you are entitled to, regardless of your wealth. People like Bill Gates donate it back to charity anyway.
Since you have posted the 2016 tax table, one of the few things that Obama and the republicans have ever agreed to was that Bush tax cuts 2001 for the lowest 6 brackets did not change. The tax percentage for the highest bracket was moved from 36% to 39.6% on 1/1/2013.
Yes, they SHOULD because they payed in, but SHOULD opt out given the program's original intent...
that was my original intent of this poll. it wasn't about is Social Security a good thing, or a Ponzi scheme which it is. ideally i'd phase it out. but until that happens (don't hold your breath on that) many people depend on it. if the uber rich contributed but opted not to collect (like 2,500 a month would even cover Bill Gates's electric bill on his uber mansion) it would help the many who do need it from insolvency. granted, the GOV has raided this fund for decades both democratic and republican (WRONG) and now has a lurking timebomb to deal with, this is one way, perhaps not he best, to shore up the fund.
does billy gates deserve a mansion like this? you damn right he does! because he can afford it. it's the capitalist way. but would 2,500 a month in Social Security pay for even the electric bill? probably not.
I buy federal flood insurance and pay my premiums, you think I should opt out if my house gets flooded? Oh and I buy that voluntarily and it is not taken from me by fiat. I never elected a single person that placed SS into effect.
Maybe it is time for a Constitutional Amendment that requires all laws that are not an amendment to the constitution to have a sunset provision that should never last more than the single term of a senator. Each law must stand on it's own and no mass extension , each is voted on individually with no changes. That should sufficiently gridlock Congress, get rid of laws that are bad and release us from generational laws that none of us had a part in making.
Though wealthy Americans might not "need" it, they contributed to the SSA fund and should be allowed to tap it. When they entered the workforce, it wasn't an option to contribute. It was a contractual obligation as a member of the workforce. Therefore, the government should not default on their side of the agreement.
I buy federal flood insurance and pay my premiums, you think I should opt out if my house gets flooded? Oh and I buy that voluntarily and it is not taken from me by fiat. I never elected a single person that placed SS into effect.
Maybe it is time for a Constitutional Amendment that requires all laws that are not an amendment to the constitution to have a sunset provision that should never last more than the single term of a senator. Each law must stand on it's own and no mass extension , each is voted on individually with no changes. That should sufficiently gridlock Congress, get rid of laws that are bad and release us from generational laws that none of us had a part in making.
I would see nothing wrong with removing the cap, period. Let Lebron James pay SS taxes on his entire income.
Also, make ALL income, or gain, be subject to SS taxes. Let Warren Buffet and the rest of the mega rich pay on what they call unearned income the same way all of us who draw regular pay checks.
I buy federal flood insurance and pay my premiums, you think I should opt out if my house gets flooded? Oh and I buy that voluntarily and it is not taken from me by fiat. I never elected a single person that placed SS into effect.
You've got the analogy right, but the perspective wrong...of course you collect if your home is flooded...you collect SS if you become poor and elderly...the real question is should you collect if your home is not flooded = Should you collect if you're not poor (we're using wealthy here)...No!
A little off topic on your second point, but, really? You didn't elect any of the folks that made car theft illegal...so I guess we can steal your car since those laws don't apply to you.
I would see nothing wrong with removing the cap, period. Let Lebron James pay SS taxes on his entire income.
Also, make ALL income, or gain, be subject to SS taxes. Let Warren Buffet and the rest of the mega rich pay on what they call unearned income the same way all of us who draw regular pay checks.
SS would be awash in money.
i'd be fine with removing the cap. and yes it would provide a badly needed injection of money into the system. the only downside is the Politicians would go raid it again. if you put legislation in to lift the cap you'd also need to make it untouchable too. the SS fund wouldn't be facing possibly insolvency if they hadn't raided it repeatedly over the years.
SS is a supplement to your retirement and not your total retirement. Nothing in the law has a means test and to modify it now and disallow those that have paid all of their lives into it is a violation of the trust we "should" have in our government. Of course the law has been modified many times over the years so another modification without the consent of the governed is just another form of legal theft by the government.
I would be more than Happy to take a lump sum distribution from what I have paid in and what has been paid in on my behalf with compounded interest calculated on the average prime rate since I was first required to give up that money. Not a big deal since we print money from thin air all the time.
