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Old 06-23-2015, 10:57 AM   #76
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I'll exert what I want, when I want to exert it. Not before and not a goddamn second after.
Hahahaha, now that was funny. I guess you were trying to be serious. Cause I always find that people who are trying to be funny are pretty serious and those that are serious are actually pretty funny.


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Old 06-23-2015, 11:04 AM   #77
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:09 AM   #78
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Every morning when you wake up, you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM, just remember who Austin was and what he promoted.
Exactly WHICH Austin are you spewing about, you Wikipedia dropout?

Don't go there unless you're prepared to take a crash course in Texas history.

DIPSHIT!


(Oh and BTW, the "Stars and Bars" you now seem to embrace is not the flag that we Texans are used to seeing as one of the Six... but feel free to salute this!)



And, while you're rubbing down your flagpole, why not let us know what you're planning to do this year on Burn a Confederate Flag Day?



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Old 06-23-2015, 12:29 PM   #79
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I'll exert what I want, when I want to exert it. Not before and not a goddamn second after.
Right... the only one who can do that is Ron Jeremy....but you know that personally.
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:49 PM   #80
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The Civil War was a tragic mistake. The Brits were able to outlaw slavery using debate and reason. Skillful diplomacy and the introduction of new science and technology could have eliminated slavery and reunited the union in possibly less time than it took to fight the war. The war cemented the hatred and gave it it deep roots which still exist today. Lincoln didn't want to free slaves, he wanted a united country with the states forced into subservience to the federal government. We could have taken a different approach. Had we done so, many of the problems we see today would not exist, and we'd be a more free country.

This was not about Lincoln until the end. The Missouri Compromise was a lie used against the south. The politicians promised the south that they would keep parity with the north when states came into the union. That was revealed as a lie to the south in 1850. Whether you like it or not, the south was lied to and betrayed when Buchanan would not lift a finger to save some men who tried to "free" Cuba from the Spanish. Of course, they wanted to free Cuba for slavery and southern rule but Buchanan did let some Americans die in front of a Spanish firing squad rather than negoiate. The south saw the handwriting on the wall. Their early influence was coming to an end. Anything they wanted whether it was slavery, expansion, or equal representation was going to overturned by Washington DC.
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:51 PM   #81
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Sadly, violence is in our DNA. We founded this country on it. It's 2015 and there are still lessons to be learned that we are too proud or too stubborn, to learn.
Care to name another country that was created, founded, or taken by anything other than violence? It is not an American trait, it is a human trait shared by even the noble red man who occupied this land before us.
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The war wasn't about slavery, it was about states rights to own slaves.
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Old 06-23-2015, 01:11 PM   #83
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Why stop at flags?

http://www.businessinsider.com/confe...-austin-2015-6

And you thought I was kidding about the "Five Flags" amusement parks?
They'll get there eventually...
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Old 06-23-2015, 01:24 PM   #84
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Does it surprise anyone that repubtards are on the wrong side again?

It's exactly the same as Nazism. Imagine if Germany still had Nazi flags flying, imagine if Nazi statue tributes still stood....?

The best argument is what? That it stands as some monument to confederate bravery?
Many Nazis were brave too. Many fought and died for a lot more than the right to kill jews. Typical stupid repubtard argument.

Fuck your flags and fuck all your confederate generals. They fought for the right to keep slaves ffs.
You can be all preachy and call them patriots, I'll be the realist and call them the vermin POSs they were.
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The war wasn't about slavery, it was about states rights to own slaves.
That was part of it. But what nobody wants to talk about is there were free blacks in the south that owned slaves. The highest number were said to be in Louisiana. So not everything slavery is about the white race. In fact some of them were slaves too.

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Does it surprise anyone that repubtards are on the wrong side again?

It's exactly the same as Nazism. Imagine if Germany still had Nazi flags flying, imagine if Nazi statue tributes still stood....?

The best argument is what? That it stands as some monument to confederate bravery?
Many Nazis were brave too. Many fought and died for a lot more than the right to kill jews. Typical stupid repubtard argument.

Fuck your flags and fuck all your confederate generals. They fought for the right to keep slaves ffs.
You can be all preachy and call them patriots, I'll be the realist and call them the vermin POSs they were.
So you're on the side of vandalism... Figures.
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Old 06-23-2015, 02:34 PM   #87
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This was not about Lincoln until the end. The Missouri Compromise was a lie used against the south. The politicians promised the south that they would keep parity with the north when states came into the union. That was revealed as a lie to the south in 1850. Whether you like it or not, the south was lied to and betrayed when Buchanan would not lift a finger to save some men who tried to "free" Cuba from the Spanish. Of course, they wanted to free Cuba for slavery and southern rule but Buchanan did let some Americans die in front of a Spanish firing squad rather than negoiate. The south saw the handwriting on the wall. Their early influence was coming to an end. Anything they wanted whether it was slavery, expansion, or equal representation was going to overturned by Washington DC.
Straight from Uncle Goober's Atlas of US History.
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Old 06-23-2015, 03:16 PM   #88
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That was part of it. But what nobody wants to talk about is there were free blacks in the south that owned slaves. The highest number were said to be in Louisiana. So not everything slavery is about the white race. In fact some of them were slaves too.

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As if that somehow legitimizes or deflects what was done.

Bottom line is, No slavery, no Civil War. All the rest is just bullshit rationalizations.
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It's not as simple as all that and it's easy to draw some pretty distinct differences between Nazi's and Confederates, not the least of which is that slavery was an institution with a history in the south (and the north) as opposed to the slaughter of the jews which was instituted within a decade of the Nazi's taking power.

But, the analogy of flying the Swastika is a good one. You think jewish folks might be understandably outraged if the capital in Germany was flying the swastika? It's unthinkable. Why should black Americans be any less outraged?

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Does it surprise anyone that repubtards are on the wrong side again?

It's exactly the same as Nazism. Imagine if Germany still had Nazi flags flying, imagine if Nazi statue tributes still stood....?

The best argument is what? That it stands as some monument to confederate bravery?
Many Nazis were brave too. Many fought and died for a lot more than the right to kill jews. Typical stupid repubtard argument.

Fuck your flags and fuck all your confederate generals. They fought for the right to keep slaves ffs.
You can be all preachy and call them patriots, I'll be the realist and call them the vermin POSs they were.
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