I do find it ironic that the LAW keeps on getting quoted regarding defining the sex of a TS . . . if the LAW is the final arbiter then here are some other selected factoids about the LAW in Texas:
All per Texas Penal Code Chapter 43. PUBLIC INDECENCY
Sec. 43.01. DEFINITIONS. In this subchapter:
(1) "Deviate sexual intercourse" means any contact between the genitals of one person and the mouth or anus of another person. Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark
Sec. 43.02. PROSTITUTION. (a) A person commits an offense if the person knowingly:
(1) offers to engage, agrees to engage, or engages in sexual conduct for a fee; or
(2) solicits another in a public place to engage with the person in sexual conduct for hire.
(b) An offense is established under Subsection (a)(1) whether the actor is to receive or pay a fee. An offense is established under Subsection (a)(2) whether the actor solicits a person to hire the actor or offers to hire the person solicited.
Sec. 43.06. ACCOMPLICE WITNESS; TESTIMONY AND IMMUNITY. (a) A party to an offense under this subchapter may be required to furnish evidence or testify about the offense.
(b) A party to an offense under this subchapter may not be prosecuted for any offense about which he is required to furnish evidence or testify, and the evidence and testimony may not be used against the party in any adjudicatory proceeding except a prosecution for aggravated perjury.
To all the Johns on the board . . . even if protected from prosecution how many of us could stand to be COMPELLED to testify in a prostitution case because our name was in a provider's phone? Sure you could deny deny deny, but you could be forced to do it standing up in a public courtroom AND be prosecuted for perjury. Likely? No. Possible? You betcha.
Sure looks like there are a lot of lawbreakers around here . . . not me of course. I'm only here getting data on the "human condition".
OBTW, per this chapter, possession of more than six ""
Obscene device" means a device including a dildo or artificial vagina, designed or marketed as useful primarily for the stimulation of human genital organs." is presumed to be possession with an intent to promote same and is a CRIME in Texas (Class A Misdemeanor). YIKES!!!!! Better get to cleaning out the goody bag!
I only use the above example to point out the "possible" disconnect in using stupid LAW to defend a position given where we are hanging out
Actually IMHO the ENTIRETY of Chapter 43, except for the section(s) regarding minors, is total crap and should be deleted in its entirety . . . truly stone age material.
My OPINION is that its unsound logic to state that since some law, somewhere (sure can't find it in the Texas State penal code) says a m-f TG can't use a women's bathroom and is therefor defined by LAW a male while at the same time casually flaunting the laws cited above. If there is such a law, it is JUST as dumb at the ones quoted above and just as destined for the scrap heap in the future.
I wish this debate had started in a less confrontational manner, but, reading the comments both in the open and in private tags tells me that the attempted use of rational argument in the context of this thread is begging the absolutely nasty and bigoted comments that appear in many private comments appended to many TS/TG reviews.
Personally, I've never been with TG woman. I also said up till a few years ago that my butt was exit only
Who knows what kink lies on the horizon
It would almost be more refreshing to just come out and say "they are all fags and I don't like fags" and forget the legal or worse yet, biblical justifications. Sure as the sun rises, any "legal" arguments are gonna be gone and then all that will be left is opinion, and we ALL have one of those, eh
There is NOTHING wrong with opinion, except when codified into law that is wrong. Dred Scott anyone???