!VI! Pimp Update (If not interested DON'T READ)

[sean rider]

There was some question as to the nature of The Pimp's earlier arrest, and a question as to the nature of his parole. I was able to find the relevant court records once I realized I was initially looking in the wrong county.

Here is the crime. The Pimp was working at JCPenny, and on several occasions he allowed acquaintances to charge a purchase, and he would subsequently reverse the charge as if they returned the merchandise...but they kept the goods. This racked up about $2900 in stolen value. There is some ambiguous evidence that deposits to his bank might have been his kickbacks from the scam.

This took place in February of 2009. And here is the mini-bombshell. One of the credit cards used belonged to the first (known) girl he would later pimp out, none other than "eevee."

This was several years before The Pimp met !VI!. She was still in high school in a different part of Texas at the time.

Reading the sequence of events one is left with the impression of The Pimp as a petty criminal without shame or guilt who tries to weasel out of paying the consequences for his actions. This has been going on for more than seven years now.

The court cut him a break this being his first arrest. They allowed him to plead guilty (not nolo contendere) and in return deferred proceeding further in the trial. He only had to comply with parole. Presumably if he did this successfully he wouldn't end up with a conviction on his record.

The terms of parole were reasonable. Pay court costs (about $200), pay a fine of $500, make restitution of about $2900, spend 9 days in jail, and work 200 hours of community service. And the usual checking in, not moving without getting permission, etc.

He skipped out on all of this, the fines, the few days in jail, the community service. Everything. He left eevee holding the bag for $5000 in bail money. (Yes, she put up bail for him.) They issued multiple arrest warrants, and the court increased his bail a few times ending up at $20,000. His assigned lawyer petitioned to be released because of non-communication and non-payment. The Pimp tried to use his typical malingering as an excuse as to why he didn't complete community service. His only evidence was a medical report saying the cause of his chest pain was "unknown" and not dangerous. (This was after some years, and was faxed in from the UNT campus.)

etc. etc.

The state rescinded his parole, and Texas could crank up his deferred court case, convict him, and throw him in prison if they so choose. This, presumably, after the Feds get their first at bat.

[SteveOTX]

Originally Posted by TinMan

Walk us through the timeline, then. When did he "force her into being a hooker?" Keep in mind she started turning tricks on Eccie in 2013.

Dont need to, Sean does a great job of keeping everyone up to date on this situation.

Originally Posted by sean rider

Nice catch!

So the !VI! account was accessed on 11-07-2016 09:39 PM.

The Pimp's Facebook account, after a long silence, had a very long rambling post added on 11-08-2016 00:31 AM.

That's 3 hours later. And it would have taken quite a while to write, so it was started before that.

Is it a coincidence that these 2 accounts would suddenly both come alive at about the same time? Perhaps...

Correction:

The previous Facebook post was on October 24 at 2:04am.

The one before that was way back on June 20.

We know that the posts in June were being made by a friend. It's hard to believe that The Pimp now not only has direct access to Facebook while in prison, but that he also has such access after midnight. So exactly what is going on here is not clear. If he was in control of the !VI! account as I believe, and he has someone posting as/for him on Facebook, perhaps he trusted that person with access to the !VI! account. At this time he is actively using Facebook to communicate with his supporters and to gather things like character witness statements.

He is posting from prison, he appears to have limited access to internet or cell phone there.

Originally Posted by TinMan

Wouldn't it be rich if it was Vi posting on his behalf.

Its not. !VI! is 110% not guilty and the recent log in to the !VI! account clearly proves this.

[sean rider]

Originally Posted by SteveOTX

He is posting from prison, he appears to have limited access to internet or cell phone there.

Is that an assumed explanation on your part, or do you have some actual evidence that he has such access? And after midnight no less?

(We do know that back in June he did not have such access and depended on a friend to make posts in his Facebook account for him.)

[chicagoboy]

Originally Posted by SteveOTX

!VI! is 110% not responsible for anything that she has said or done for the past 4 years.

Originally Posted by SteveOTX

Have fun with your cheap attempts at making fun of a girl who was trafficked for 4 years, and who is also 110% NOT RESPONSIBLE for anything that she has ALLEGEDLY said or done during those 4 years of being trafficked.

Originally Posted by SteveOTX

That being !VI! is 110% not responsible for anything that she has "allegedly" done over the past 4 years.

Originally Posted by SteveOTX

As stated many times already, !VI! is 110% not responsible for anything that she has said or done for the past 4 years.

Originally Posted by SteveOTX

I'm gonna say this for the last time (heh), !VI! is 110% not responsible for anything that she has "allegedly" said or done for the past 4 years.

Originally Posted by SteveOTX

As I stated before, !VI! is 110% innocent of anything that she has allegedly done for the past 4 years, and for all of these ridiculous accusations.

Originally Posted by SteveOTX

Its !VI! not Vi, and she is 110% not responsible for anything that she has "allegedly" said or done for the past 4 years.

Originally Posted by SteveOTX

I may have said this on here before, but I am gonna say this one last time (heh, heh). !VI! is 110% not responsible for anything that she has "allegedly" said or done for the past 4 years.

Originally Posted by SteveOTX

!VI! is 110% not responsible for anything that she has "allegedly" said or done for the past 4 years.

Originally Posted by SteveOTX

As I have said all along, !VI! is 110% not responsible for anything that she has "allegedly" said or done for the past 4 years.

Originally Posted by SteveOTX

!VI! is 110% completely innocent of all these ridiculous and silly accusations that you people are making.

Originally Posted by SteveOTX

!VI! is 110% not guilty and the recent log in to the !VI! account clearly proves this.

With interest, shouldn't it be 111% by now?

[pyramider]

Is steve using kitty math, again?

[bottoms up]

Originally Posted by chicagoboy

With interest, shouldn't it be 111% by now?

But no one is interested.

[TinMan]

Originally Posted by sean rider

Is that an assumed explanation on your part, or do you have some actual evidence that he has such access? And after midnight no less?

(We do know that back in June he did not have such access and depended on a friend to make posts in his Facebook account for him.)

Great question. !Steve!, how do you know this?

[marvelousntx]

Originally Posted by sean rider

There was some question as to the nature of The Pimp's earlier arrest, and a question as to the nature of his parole. I was able to find the relevant court records once I realized I was initially looking in the wrong county.

Here is the crime. The Pimp was working at JCPenny, and on several occasions he allowed acquaintances to charge a purchase, and he would subsequently reverse the charge as if they returned the merchandise...but they kept the goods. This racked up about $2900 in stolen value. There is some ambiguous evidence that deposits to his bank might have been his kickbacks from the scam.

This took place in February of 2009. And here is the mini-bombshell. One of the credit cards used belonged to the first (known) girl he would later pimp out, none other than "eevee."

This was several years before The Pimp met !VI!. She was still in high school in a different part of Texas at the time.

Reading the sequence of events one is left with the impression of The Pimp as a petty criminal without shame or guilt who tries to weasel out of paying the consequences for his actions. This has been going on for more than seven years now.

The court cut him a break this being his first arrest. They allowed him to plead guilty (not nolo contendere) and in return deferred proceeding further in the trial. He only had to comply with parole. Presumably if he did this successfully he wouldn't end up with a conviction on his record.

The terms of parole were reasonable. Pay court costs (about $200), pay a fine of $500, make restitution of about $2900, spend 9 days in jail, and work 200 hours of community service. And the usual checking in, not moving without getting permission, etc.

He skipped out on all of this, the fines, the few days in jail, the community service. Everything. He left eevee holding the bag for $5000 in bail money. (Yes, she put up bail for him.) They issued multiple arrest warrants, and the court increased his bail a few times ending up at $20,000. His assigned lawyer petitioned to be released because of non-communication and non-payment. The Pimp tried to use his typical malingering as an excuse as to why he didn't complete community service. His only evidence was a medical report saying the cause of his chest pain was "unknown" and not dangerous. (This was after some years, and was faxed in from the UNT campus.)

etc. etc.

The state rescinded his parole, and Texas could crank up his deferred court case, convict him, and throw him in prison if they so choose. This, presumably, after the Feds get their first at bat.

I think you need someone to explain to you the difference between parole and deferred adjudication (probation). Parole is what you are released early from prison on AFTER trial, conviction, and served prison time. Probation is all pre-trial. You can only go on parole after a conviction, therefore it can't be removed from your record unless pardoned. Probation can be because there is no conviction involved. So he was in trouble for not following the conditions of his probation not violating parole. Violating probation means your case starts over from the beginning. Sometimes. Usually someone is just stuck in county jail for a few then released back on probation.

[SteveOTX]

Originally Posted by bottoms up

But no one is interested.

Oh yes they are, this post clearly proves it.

Originally Posted by TinMan

Great question. !Steve!, how do you know this?

He posted that he can receive text messages but they are monitored. The log in to the fake !VI! account was made around the same time. There was also a recent log in to the video site.

!VI! clearly did not log in to any of these.

[TinMan]

Which video site, and when was the log in?

[sean rider]

Originally Posted by marvelousntx

I think you need someone to explain to you the difference between parole and deferred adjudication (probation). Parole is what you are released early from prison on AFTER trial, conviction, and served prison time. Probation is all pre-trial. You can only go on parole after a conviction, therefore it can't be removed from your record unless pardoned. Probation can be because there is no conviction involved. So he was in trouble for not following the conditions of his probation not violating parole. Violating probation means your case starts over from the beginning. Sometimes. Usually someone is just stuck in county jail for a few then released back on probation.

Thanks for this clarification. All of the documents make reference to "probation" in a way consistent with what you explained. I believe you are correct and I'll try to adjust my language in future posts.

Not sure whether he will eventually be tried again for felony theft or not. Stretching out his probation violations from the start to almost 8 years now, assertively evading identification and warrants, skipping out on bail, and ultimately racking up a federal gun charge while on probation all seem to indicate to me no sense of remorse or responsibility, and telegraphs a threat to public safety. But then again maybe from the jaded eyes of a prosecutor this is par for the course and they couldn't possibly imprison every equivalent violator.

Whatever his fate it's clear to me from the tone of everything I've read that this guy is an unstable punk not worth much sympathy.

(That doesn't mean !VI! is the victim she claims to be. I remain convinced she is somewhere between total victim and total evil.)

[SteveOTX]

Originally Posted by TinMan

Which video site, and when was the log in?

Hey you are smart, you should already know where the !VI!deos are at shouldn't you?

Originally Posted by sean rider

(That doesn't mean !VI! is the victim she claims to be. I remain convinced she is somewhere between total victim and total evil.)

Yes it does, !VI! is the victim here and is 110% not responsible for anything that she has "allegedly" said or done for the past 4 years.

This entire situation, all these details, they all clearly prove her innocence.

[sean rider]

Even if she made none of the !VI! posts here, and even if The Pimp outed her here and with the porn videos, she still might be guilty of wrongdoing.

For example, it may be that her sex work was consensual even though pimped, and that she exaggerated or totally lied about being forced by The Pimp. Nothing I've seen in the evidence settles this question. We simply don't know.

Do you have evidence we don't?

(There must be a reason her trafficking allegations have not resulted in charges. By that I mean it could well be that authorities also have found a lack of evidence.)

[FindumFuccemFleem]

Contact dallas@eccie.net if you don't have access to your V! account, they'd be happy to help

Bet you won't though and we all know why

[sean rider]

Prisoners in Texas prisons are not allowed to even have a third party maintain a Facebook for them. Presumably this doesn't apply to The Pimp because he's in federal prison. But Facebook rules also say a third party can't operate his Facebook page for him.

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