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Old 08-03-2020, 12:51 PM   #76
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3. Rice - Nice resume. Worked closely with Biden when he was V.P. Negative is she misspoke on Benghazi. Has never run for any office.

This sums up liberalism in a single quote. What Rice said is no "misspoke" its an outright lie.
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Old 08-03-2020, 12:54 PM   #77
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Why would any sane candidate give an interview in a hostile network when they’re double digits ahead?
Because the rest of us don't want to vote for a chickenshit pussy.... that's why. If he can't handle a hostile domestic news reporter, how the fuck is he gonna handle Winnie Xi the pooh?
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Old 08-03-2020, 01:01 PM   #78
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Because the rest of us don't want to vote for a chickenshit pussy.... that's why. If he can't handle a hostile domestic news reporter, how the fuck is he gonna handle Winnie Xi the pooh?
It doesn’t matter what the rest of you want. He’s way ahead. He’s not trying to expand his vote. Trump expands a Biden;s vote every day he opens his mouth And every day he does nothing but try to gaslight a virus.
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Old 08-03-2020, 01:12 PM   #79
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It doesn’t matter what the rest of you want. He’s way ahead. He’s not trying to expand his vote. Trump expands a Biden;s vote every day he opens his mouth And every day he does nothing but try to gaslight a virus.
A virus that Biden didn’t want to stop coming in from China because he thought it was racist.

And Hillary was way ahead. What happened then?
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Old 08-03-2020, 02:48 PM   #80
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And Hillary was way ahead. What happened then?
FBI director Comey announced that HRC was under investigation again two weeks before the election day. Trump got lucky and won three blue states (Mich,Penn,Wisc) by a total of 75,000 votes. This scenario will not repeat itself. Biden still has 8 point lead in Mich and 5 point leads in other swing states. Biden only needs to flip three swing states to get to 270 electoral college votes. Biden does not have Benghazi or classified emails on a personal email account problems like HRC had. Colin Powell had government emails on his AOL account, it was not a problem for him only HRC.
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FBI director Comey announced that HRC was under investigation again two weeks before the election day. Trump got lucky and won three blue states (Mich,Penn,Wisc) by a total of 75,000 votes. This scenario will not repeat itself. Biden still has 8 point lead in Mich and 5 point leads in other swing states. Biden only needs to flip three swing states to get to 270 electoral college votes. Biden does not have Benghazi or classified emails on a personal email account problems like HRC had. Colin Powell had government emails on his AOL account, it was not a problem for him only HRC.
Please give me your take along with TexHog. Mike Pompeo sets up a sever in apartment he has. He diverts all of his email, communications with foreign leaders, etc. through this server which is outside of the government system. He is found to be knowingly running this system which has communication directly from President Trump on it. What should happen to him as punishment for violation of federal law?
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Old 08-03-2020, 04:43 PM   #82
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Please give me your take along with TexHog. Mike Pompeo sets up a sever in apartment he has. He diverts all of his email, communications with foreign leaders, etc. through this server which is outside of the government system. He is found to be knowingly running this system which has communication directly from President Trump on it. What should happen to him as punishment for violation of federal law?
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1. Are any of the emails labeled/marked "Classified".

2. Do any of the emails on this personal server contain "Classified Information" whether or not it is marked classified in the Subject heading.

HRC's situation was number 2. She had a couple of emails that contained "Classified information" but were labeled or marked "Not Classified" from the person who sent them to her.

Congressman Trey Gowdy ran several investigations on this. She was not charged or convicted of any wrong doing with the emails or BenGhazi.
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Old 08-03-2020, 05:28 PM   #83
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FBI director Comey announced that HRC was under investigation again two weeks before the election day.
And Trump had a video of him saying "women let celebrities grab them by the pussy" as his October surprise. By the time the Comey thing hit, people more or less had already made up their mind. If they forgave Hillary for Benghazi, they sure as hell didn't give a damn about whatever Comey had said.

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Trump got lucky and won three blue states (Mich,Penn,Wisc) by a total of 75,000 votes.
No, he actually worked his ass off to get those three states. While Hillary was complacent behind her "blue wall" Trump was actually doing the work.

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This scenario will not repeat itself. Biden still has 8 point lead in Mich and 5 point leads in other swing states.
Hillary had a massive lead in every state literally up to the morning of the fucking election. And compared to Biden, Hillary at least had the "first woman POTUS" thing going for her. What does Biden have going for him besides dementia? Right... nothing. Nobody gives a shit about Biden and even the Bernie Bros are going to sit this one out.

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Biden only needs to flip three swing states to get to 270 electoral college votes.
And how's he going to do that? By gaffing his way through TV interviews, forgetting where he is and by calling Trump a racist? How did that go in 2016 again? You're forgetting that, just like 2016, the anti-Trump sentiment is being pushed hugely by the left and TONS of people are getting abso-fucking-lotely getting sick of it.

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Biden does not have Benghazi or classified emails on a personal email account problems like HRC had.
You're right, he's arguably worse. He's actually been caught on camera admitting to blackmailing Ukraine. He cucks to China countless times. He had no interest in stopping the arrival of covid 19 because he was worried about being called racist. He has the shittiest record with racial policies. He didn't accomplish a damn thing in his near 50 years in public life. Obama didn't endorse him until the last 10 minutes of the primaries. He gets into huge temper tantrums whenever someone challenges him. He insults potential voters. And so on.


None of this is to say that Trump should be lazy and not do his homework. He still does have the incumbent advantage, the economy to fall back on, and a strong position in overall world policies, but if he acts the fool and loses, he has nobody but to blame but himself.
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Old 08-03-2020, 05:31 PM   #84
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1. Are any of the emails labeled/marked "Classified".

2. Do any of the emails on this personal server contain "Classified Information" whether or not it is marked classified in the Subject heading.

HRC's situation was number 2. She had a couple of emails that contained "Classified information" but were labeled or marked "Not Classified" from the person who sent them to her.

Congressman Trey Gowdy ran several investigations on this. She was not charged or convicted of any wrong doing with the emails or BenGhazi.
Um, yeah. They were classified. And they contained information, including on Benghazi and such. And the fact that she nuked her own machines kind of is incredibly suspicious.

She was absolutely charged of wrongdoings. Comey literally said "Yeah, what she did was wrong, but it was on accident, so we'll let it go."

That literally happened.
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Old 08-03-2020, 06:25 PM   #85
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It doesn’t matter what the rest of you want. He’s way ahead. He’s not trying to expand his vote. Trump expands a Biden;s vote every day he opens his mouth And every day he does nothing but try to gaslight a virus.
You better hope more people start dying soon because hospitalizations are starting to trend back down....viruses are gonna virus no matter what governments around the world do.
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Um, yeah. They were classified. And they contained information, including on Benghazi and such. And the fact that she nuked her own machines kind of is incredibly suspicious.

She was absolutely charged of wrongdoings. Comey literally said "Yeah, what she did was wrong, but it was on accident, so we'll let it go."

That literally happened.
If someone sends you an email that is marked or labeled "not classified" but contains classified information and it remains in your possession, that is negligence. Comey found that HRC was negligent. Being negligent is not a crime. At best you might lose your government security clearance. You will not go to jail.

Try to give classified information to an enemy of the USA, that is something you would go to jail for (if convicted).

What did the investigations led by Congressman Trey Gowdy find? Nothing!!!
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Old 08-03-2020, 09:27 PM   #87
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And Trump had a video of him saying "women let celebrities grab them by the pussy" as his October surprise. By the time the Comey thing hit, people more or less had already made up their mind. If they forgave Hillary for Benghazi, they sure as hell didn't give a damn about whatever Comey had said.



No, he actually worked his ass off to get those three states. While Hillary was complacent behind her "blue wall" Trump was actually doing the work.



Hillary had a massive lead in every state literally up to the morning of the fucking election. And compared to Biden, Hillary at least had the "first woman POTUS" thing going for her. What does Biden have going for him besides dementia? Right... nothing. Nobody gives a shit about Biden and even the Bernie Bros are going to sit this one out.



And how's he going to do that? By gaffing his way through TV interviews, forgetting where he is and by calling Trump a racist? How did that go in 2016 again? You're forgetting that, just like 2016, the anti-Trump sentiment is being pushed hugely by the left and TONS of people are getting abso-fucking-lotely getting sick of it.



You're right, he's arguably worse. He's actually been caught on camera admitting to blackmailing Ukraine. He cucks to China countless times. He had no interest in stopping the arrival of covid 19 because he was worried about being called racist. He has the shittiest record with racial policies. He didn't accomplish a damn thing in his near 50 years in public life. Obama didn't endorse him until the last 10 minutes of the primaries. He gets into huge temper tantrums whenever someone challenges him. He insults potential voters. And so on.


None of this is to say that Trump should be lazy and not do his homework. He still does have the incumbent advantage, the economy to fall back on, and a strong position in overall world policies, but if he acts the fool and loses, he has nobody but to blame but himself.
You asked how is Biden going to win? One of three ways. You have to accept that Michigan is going blue this election, no doubt about it.

1. Biden flips Mich, Penn, Wisc and gets HRC's 230 EC votes.

2. Biden flips Fl and ARI and gets HRC's 230 EC votes

3. Biden flips Texas and gets HRC's 230 EC votes.

All three scenarios are very realistic, with #1 being the most likely.

https://www.electoral-vote.com/
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Yes, they do. The media has been protecting his ass this entire election season. Every major fuckup he's done on camera, the media either downplays it, doesn't show it, or censors any mention of it. Remember that woman who accused Biden (then Senator) of sexual assault? Probably not, because the media buried it. How about Biden literally admitting on camera, how he fucked over Ukraine because of his son? Oh, right. Probably not. Because the media covered for him.



Examples.



"Mr Trump, people think you're a sexist" is not a valid question.
That was only the beginning of her question. It was describing a documented history with women.
Summing up to her asking "...Does that sound to you like the temperament of the man we should elect as president...."
It was a valid point and question.



I agree. And he needs to learn how to practice talking about his strengths.



Agreed.



Are you fucking high? The media got on his case over a bullshit story about peeing on russian hookers beds. And eating well done steak. And putting Ketchup on it. And tweeting insignificant things. And lying about him CONSTANTLY.

Uh, no. I'm talking about what he has demonstrated all this time he has been in office, and was brilliantly illuminated in the debates before becoming an elected politician: his lying. Being he was not in any elected office before, these were the first public forums he put his ideas out. And alot of them were BS. Now stop making inferred refences to illegal substance use.


No, it's what matters the most. Because the media pretend to be the guard dog of information, but all they do is carry water for the Democratic party. Can you name any main station besides Fox that didn't treat Trump like he worked for the Kremlin? Yeah, I didn't think so.

OAN. You're neurons are short circuiting.

He's not polished and speaks bluntly and to the point. I'd rather have someone who speaks quickly of what he's done VS speaking eloquently over having accomplished not a fucking thing.

I have asked for you to give a summation of accomplishments and ...

Yeah, an example is Obama. He was a speech-craft master at bullshitting over his whole lots of nothing accomplished during his 8 years. All Obama did was fuck up the Democrat party.

I think trump is currently trying to get to the bootstrap position that Obama had. To be revealed below.

And Biden doesn't even have the energy to bulldoze his way through an interview without forgetting he's on camera. And honestly, bulldozing his way to get what he wants is something every President has done. Obama bulldozed his way to get DACA passed. And Obama. So, don't act like Trump is exclusive at this.

Can you point out where I said trump is "exclusive at this"? Don't need people putting words in my mouth.

When has Trump pushed through a major piece of legislation the way Obama has passed Obamacare, without both the House and Senate passing it? Obamacare wasn't what the people wanted but he still got away with it. Same with DACA. And gay marriage.

As I said. But i'll say it again and agree with you. Obamacare was forced through both Houses.
Wasn't the best implementation. *IMO* it would be much better if the party that entrenched itself in their mantra of "being the party of NO" would have adopted a philosophy other than suck a person dry of his money when he gets on his death bed as opposed to the intent of Obamacare doing preventive procedures to keep people from getting that ill before coming to seek medical care.
DACA and gay marriage are for another thread



Economy.



Economy.



Economy.


In the words of Hobson in Arthur, "Yes... You obviously have a wonderful economy with words, Gloria. I look forward to your next syllable with great eagerness." A look at what is currently going on can be one step away from what Manchester wrote in the chapter of The Cruelest Years. ...and that is the best you can give for the summation of accomplishments?
And the reveal I mentioned above, it seems to me trump is trying to recreate the economy that Obama inherited and will probably taut (sp) that his second term he is going to make things better than Obama did with the same 'effd economy.



So, Trump is going to be told to cheat, but due to his nature, actually ends up NOT cheating and goes off the cusp, despite being told now to. OTOH, are you saying Biden will follow the earpiece because he doesn't have the arrogance of Trump? What exactly are you saying? lol. I'd rather support the guy who accidently DOESN'T cheat.
Saying neither. Seeing you say Biden is as trump describes him, senile, I would put my $$$ on Biden in a debate with him. Yes, Biden does slip up. But in real time, I can see the guy gaining traction on explaining a misstatement and correcting it. trump only sticks to what serves him. mostly lies.

As I said, I think trump has some good ideas but he has so many people that are in his pocket, they don't do the homework on pitching those ideas to make them palpable to the people. Need to get rid of the indited crooks.
And speaking of crooks, if Biden is one with Ukraine, how come the repubs never pushed charges all these years?
It is in agreement that the guy in Ukraine he said funds would not be coming for the USA, the rest of the EU were in agreement that guy was crooked.
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If someone sends you an email that is marked or labeled "not classified" but contains classified information and it remains in your possession, that is negligence. Comey found that HRC was negligent.
They were marked as "C." Wonder what that "C" stands for, hmmm? And actually, yes. It IS a crime, regardless of intent. If I accidentally drove over the speed limit, does that make it not a crime and I should just get a free pass by the cops? No.


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It's a crime. You can try to play politics as much as you want, but it is a crime.


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At best you might lose your government security clearance. You will not go to jail.
You can have your entire life ruined because of it, which is what happened to General Flynn.

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You know what else you can go to jail for? Trying to wipe your severs right after you get a subpoena.

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Dude, he discovered that Hillary had classified e-mails in her private servers which she had in her home bathroom, which she then tried to wipe clean.

But, of course she's a fucking Clinton so she can get away with it.
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You asked how is Biden going to win? One of three ways. You have to accept that Michigan is going blue this election, no doubt about it.

1. Biden flips Mich, Penn, Wisc and gets HRC's 230 EC votes.

2. Biden flips Fl and ARI and gets HRC's 230 EC votes

3. Biden flips Texas and gets HRC's 230 EC votes.

All three scenarios are very realistic, with #1 being the most likely.

https://www.electoral-vote.com/
You do understand that right now, everyone is Michigan is massively pissed at Governor Whitmer, right? Like, her handling of the covid virus was so notoriously bad, it's highly unlikely the state will remain blue after the massive fuckup that was the Democrat governor.

What makes you think any of those states are going to go blue? The same numbers that spectacularly failed HRC election night?

You do understand that right now, Biden is highhandedly the most pathetic candidate the DNC ever pushed on, right? Literally everyone else in that field, minus Sanders, is a better contender.
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