Relationships Beyond The Hobby

[WTF]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

Yes i agree. And especially we cant underestimate if a woman is not a authentic escort (which means she lies about it and is not in the open) then she will most likely not attract an authentic man either.

As long as they do not lie to each other, they are authentic in their own minds and thats all that counts!


I meant that as a question.







One last question to the old timers...remember when the gent brought home the escort and intro'd her to his wife. Remember how much cit he caught? Cound that not have been us judging way to harshly, just like some seem to be doing when they say it will never work?

That always bugged me how harshly we jumped down his shit.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by WTF

As long as they do not lie to each other, they are authentic in their own minds and thats all that counts!


I meant that as a question.

Oh please you must be kidding. Escorts who are not friends tend to lie a lot to each other :-). Especially about how much money they earn and how good their private relationships with their ex -clients are

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Camille

I'm sorry, I'm confusing you! If you look up to your last post where you quoted me, there is an emoticons of one smiley shooting the other in the head lol....which is why I asked. What I didn't realize is that I had somehow picked that emoticons up from somewhere and posted it in my reply first....you had just quoted me which picked it up
I have NO IDEA where I picked that icon up as it's not showing on my list to the right

C xxxx

ooooops, yes saw it, :-) hahahaha, i thought you meant you felt shot in the head by my response :-)

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by WTF

One last question to the old timers...remember when the gent brought home the escort and intro'd her to his wife. Remember how much cit he caught? Cound that not have been us judging way to harshly, just like some seem to be doing when they say it will never work?

sure. are you referring to my years ago situation? people have moments of weakness and then they confess. Or they want changes and cling on to people like drowing pirates to their lifeboat. and then all is too much to handle and they go back to waht they are used to. and lives are lost and souls smashed due to irresponsible selfishness.Thats common usage. Read sociology books. My sociology professor made a prophecy concerning my ex married guy and his wife - and me . And he was right to the last bit of it. I even told my ex this and he would not admit it. But it all came down to what i already know.

I expect from people to carry their responsibilities alone and not drag me into their shit. If they do they have to be capable of handling the response i am giving. A married man cannot expect me to be discreet and respect his marriage while at the same time he is anything else except discreet and make his marriage my problem.

SOme people have an ego problem and need to fuck escorts for free for the "power fact called ego boost" of it because they have no pants to wear at home. We escorts always get the blueprint of what happens at home. Submissive hubby, dominant client. Its sure as in the books. And i don`t like people that use us for their ego feed but have nothing more to offer except an escort client relationship. For me these people are emotional vampires !
Plus, I have never met an escort that did not suffer in such a situation. Many of them are very young and don`t have any clue until they are up to the 4th married guy with the same pattern and then they realize. Its a pity.

[NinaBrooke]

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[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by WTF

What is the joke that ends with.."We've already established what you are we are now just determining price''

a russian collegue of mine told a client who complained that an hour with her is so expensive that she is rather cheap in comparison to a wife where he has to pay "for that little bit of white vulcano >(ejaculation)" with houses and marriage. Her he can leave after an hour. ;-)

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

I haven't quite figured out this puzzle: how a monogamous man can seem perfectly happy dating a polyamourous woman.

That happens when monogamous people don`t expect others to be monogamous as well. Poly /Mono Couples do happen. Its quite good to date people outside your dating area as well. I am currently involved with men who do not do parallel relationships , but are swingers and play around sexually. As long as me having parallel relationships is not an issue its ok. Since i am an escort for me "playing around" or swinging is not interesting. OUtside the hobby i pursue only serious relationships.

Issues arise when you (or anyone) expects others to do as you yourself would. ANd many monos are not mono for themselves but because they expect others to be monogamous.
So its ok i guess to date mono when you are poly or the other way round.

I myself have never dated a monogamous person ever. My first lover ever was schizophrenic and that opened up quite some interesting worlds for me. So i started off quite unusual as well :-). The closest i ever came to monogamy was dating a married cheater :-) who later told his wife about me (which was something any secret lover except me would have wanted - how ironic - and to me it happened while i was perfectly content with the status quo ). Life is funny sometimes. And sad too.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

sure. are you referring to my years ago situation? .

No, not you but I did like the story!

It was a guy from aspd, he brought his girlfriend to his house to meet his wife and told his wife that they were business partners or some such nonsense.


He was maimed for doing it, when I thought the better response might have been "To each his own."

Girlfriend now I know if I wanna get your panties bunched , I'll mention your ex!

[Rudyard K]

Originally Posted by WTF

One last question to the old timers...remember when the gent brought home the escort and intro'd her to his wife. Remember how much cit he caught? Cound that not have been us judging way to harshly,

I think the concensus was that was shitty thing to do. Personally, I still do. I don't think it's too harsh...or too soft. It just is what it is.

Originally Posted by WTF

That always bugged me how harshly we jumped down his shit.

Maybe you're just an old softy.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Rudyard K

I think the concensus was that was shitty thing to do. Personally, I still do. I don't think it's too harsh...or too soft. It just is what it is.

Well if we try and put someone in our shoes instead of theirs then it probably was a shitty thing to do.

I know if I did it it would be a shitty thing in my mind but that don't make it shitty just because someone else does it. I am not in their shoes.

That seems to be the jest of the answers from this thread, yet not so much from some of the same posters in the other.

Originally Posted by Rudyard K

Maybe you're just an old softy.

I wish I could argue the old part just a little bit but I sure as hell can't with and credibility and I damn sure wish I was more of a softy.

[Guest053011]

Originally Posted by Camille

I think we (me included) forget though that Alex is a "reluctant escort."
When you do something with reluctance, unless you learn to cultivate an open mind about it at some point your viewpoint is always going to be more cynical....

C x

True. But one can make choices. If a reluctant escort is unhappy with her career, it's her choice to be unhappy. In such a case, she should take on that responsibility, and not paint men as pigs - I believe such a statement does just that. Other choices may mean a less lucrative lifestyle, but at least you can't blame men for your unhappiness.

I'm not referring to Alex in the statement to follow as I don't know anything about her circumstances:

I find all too often women who aren't thrilled with the business won't leave it because they don't want to give up the amount of money they make. Another career would take years to build the same salary, whether independent or in a freelance career. I don't think it makes sense to have a poor opinion of the men that support the lifestyle you don't want to give up in exchange for building a solid mainstream career. I mean, just don't see clients you don't like. You don't have to have a second date with someone who mistreats or disgusts you.

I think unfortunately reluctant escorts give gentlemen and the general society a bad impression of us. Hell you've got time and money when you're a provider, you can use it to go to school and build that career (and perhaps she is).

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

True. But one can make choices. Those choices may mean a less lucrative lifestyle, but at least you can't blame men for your unhappiness.

I'm not referring to Alex in the statement to follow as I don't know anything about her circumstances:

I find all too often women who aren't thrilled with the business won't leave it because they don't want to give up the amount of money they make. Another career would take years to build the same salary, whether independent or in a freelance career. I don't think you get to have a poor opinion of the men that support the lifestyle you don't want to give up in exchange for building a solid mainstream career.

I think unfortunately reluctant escorts give gentlemen and the general society a bad impression of us.

I agree to what you say to some extent. But i think you underestimate the fact that every job - no matter the choice you make - has upsides and downsides. I think there are plenty of women in this and any other business who have to work hard to achieve eventually success.

You have not been born the "perfect" escort either that you try to portray on every occasion. That is impossible. I am sure you also had your hardships to endure no matter how much you choose to be in this business. Its in every job the same. I mean i am Psychologist and believe me - cramming thru university was also not all fun and good, but i did it, because it mattered in the long run and i was driven. Same here.

And i think you also had drawbacks to endure. To portray everything in shiny rainbowish colours and "oh we have such a choice" and if you don`t like it go find something else is lacking reality. I know its good to always tell everyone that we are not the ones that are forced into that business, especially on eccie, where we collect our clients from.
But i guarantee you that there are many men i hold a bad opinion about simply because they have a bad character, and not because i don`t like my job as an escort.
There are also plenty of women out there who i don?t like because i don`t like their characther, it does not make me a misogynist :-).

[Guest053011]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

I agree to what you say to some extent. But i think you underestimate the fact that every job - no matter the choice you make - has upsides and downsides. I think there are plenty of women in this and any other business who have to work hard to achieve eventually success.

I've always said, there's no such thing as easy money. Not even in this business. However, regardless of what business you're in, you can choose a different career if you're unhappy.

You have not been born the "perfect" escort either that you try to portray on every occasion. That is impossible. I am sure you also had your hardships to endure no matter how much you choose to be in this business. Its in every job the same. I mean i am Psychologist and believe me - cramming thru university was also not all fun and good, but i did it, because it mattered in the long run and i was driven. Same here.

Hardly. However, you don't read all the boards I post on, nor have you been on this board during my whole posting history. I've often said that when I started out I hated myself and I'm thrilled that the men I'm fond of didn't meet me in my early ears, I think they'd have been terribly disappointed. I wasn't a descent provider until my third year. However, I never assumed all men were awful to women, and when I was unhappy in this business, I looked at ways of changing my business model so that I could be happy - again, choices. I don't accept misogyny and I would never support misandry. Being in this business isn't an excuse for misandry. Saying a man can't see a prostitute as anything but a prostitute classifies as just that in my opinion (and that's all it is, opinion).

[ForumPoster]

Originally Posted by Camille

Plus one.
No-one can speak for everyone even when doing similar jobs

C x

Plus one to your plus one

[ForumPoster]

Originally Posted by Alex Lieberman

If you read my blog you will see that from my experience it simply can't work. Once a man sees you as a prostitute he will always see you that way..... and that truth will eventually rear it's ugly head...no pun intended.

That says something about both parties in a relationship.