1st 2012 Prediction - Iran and Israel

[Sidewinder]

Originally Posted by Slotgoop

There's a new and often overlooked technology available other than conventional bombers. This is kinetic energy weapons launched from space planes or satellites in orbit. They don't use explosive but rely on incredible speeds and their dense mass to penetrate and destroy. Think of a giant GPS guided lawn dart made of depleted Uranium launched at orbital speeeds of around 23000 mph and guided to a target. Add a simple scramjet to make up for the air drag of the atmosphere and you have a pretty formidable weapon that will be very difficult to trace back to the launch point.

That technology is not "new", by any stretch of the imagination.

Jerry Pournelle has been talking about it for quite literally decades. He called it "Thor", and it occasionally got called "Flying Crowbars from SPAAAACCCEEEE!!!!"

Robert Heinlein described something similar in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" in 1966 (Hugo winner, 1967). Lunar colonies revolted, and attacked Earth using big rocks encased in steel, launched from an electromagnetic catapult (today it woudl be called a mass driver). He included first-order calculations of impact energies, and compared them to nuclear weapon effects. (No, I have not checked his numbers, but Heinlein was notorious for doing his homework carefully.)

[Sidewinder]

Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

Give me an old AD-1 with a four bladed propeller, one pilot, and some iron gravity bombs and I can destroy anything.

Show us how you would destroy one of Saddam Hussein's deep bunkers with a SPAD and some iron bombs.

That was the original requirement for the GBU-28 "Bunker Buster".

Full Disclosure: I worked at Texas Instruments during the first Gulf War. TI developed the guidance package for the GBU-28, based on the Paveway laser-guided bomb kits. I did not work on this, but they told us all about the project soon after the war was over.

[Sidewinder]

Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

That applied in the 1980s Osirik strike because it was five planes and one gravity bomb involved.

Not quite correct.

The airplanes were F-16s.

The first airplane bombed the containment dome, and made a hole. The others precision-bombed the hole, putting their bombs inside the dome.

A similar tactic was used late in World War II to wreck the Tokyo railway station. A fighter-bomber (I do not recall what airplane) put one bomb through the skylight. The building shell was still standing afterwards, but the tracks were destroyed.

[theaustinescorts]

Originally Posted by kingorpawn

I think the Israelis are paying Iranians to kill these scientists. A lot of Iranians hate their govt. because of the way they were treated when they were protesting. It won't be hard to buy them.

Israeli officers have been posing as CIA officers in false flag operations to induce Iranians to conduct these missions thinking they are working for an American agenda when they're being dupped by Israelis.

The Israelis have access to many Iranian Jews remaining in Israel, but these Iranian Jews would never agree to any thing if the knew they were working for an Israeli program rather than an American one.

False flag operations are par for the course in Mossad, particularly when posing unauthorized as CIA case officers.

[kingorpawn]

Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

Israeli officers have been posing as CIA officers in false flag operations to induce Iranians to conduct these missions thinking they are working for an American agenda when they're being dupped by Israelis.

The Israelis have access to many Iranian Jews remaining in Israel, but these Iranian Jews would never agree to any thing if the knew they were working for an Israeli program rather than an American one.

False flag operations are par for the course in Mossad, particularly when posing unauthorized as CIA case officers.

Well, personally, I believe it's the Israelis. I just don't think the CIA has anybody working for them in Iran that can carry-out that type of mission.
Whatever works.

[theaustinescorts]

Originally Posted by kingorpawn

Well, personally, I believe it's the Israelis. I just don't think the CIA has anybody working for them in Iran that can carry-out that type of mission.
Whatever works.

Whatever works in doing what? Opposing US policy and damaging it to further the political careers of politicians in Israel?

If you favor the interests of Israel over those of the US why don't you resign your status here and move to Tel-Aviv?

Not that they'd welcome you.

I'm always amused when evangelical Americans show up in Israel thinking they'll be welcomed there only to find out the hard way the Israelis hate evangelical Christians, and resent any Christians showing up in their country.

If you've ever been there you would know that most Israelis are proud that they've conquered Palestine and made it into a Jewish state. They really don't like anyone there practicing any religion other than Judaism, and that includes Christians.

[kingorpawn]

Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

Whatever works in doing what? Opposing US policy and damaging it to further the political careers of politicians in Israel?

If you favor the interests of Israel over those of the US why don't you resign your status here and move to Tel-Aviv?

Not that they'd welcome you.

I'm always amused when evangelical Americans show up in Israel thinking they'll be welcomed there only to find out the hard way the Israelis hate evangelical Christians, and resent any Christians showing up in their country.

If you've ever been there you would know that most Israelis are proud that they've conquered Palestine and made it into a Jewish state. They really don't like anyone there practicing any religion other than Judaism, and that includes Christians.

I have been to Israel and they loved me. I can help Israel from anywhere in the world. They are proud that they their homeland is in the hands of the rightful owners: The Jewish People.

[kingorpawn]

Pretty good article.
http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/201...ticle-mostpop1

[theaustinescorts]

Originally Posted by kingorpawn

They are proud that they their homeland is in the hands of the rightful owners: The Jewish People.

You're exactly right about that. That is EXACTLY their view.

Unfortunately they are only 5 million and dependent entirely on US financial aid for their survival, and the US doesn't agree with their assertion any longer [not that the US ever did].

ps.....

May I suggest that you find the nearest Israeli embassy/consulate and volunteer to work for Mossad. They customarily use and then destroy all non-Israeli agents, so don't be surprised when the inevitable happens.

[kingorpawn]

Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

You're exactly right about that. That is EXACTLY their view.

Unfortunately they are only 5 million and dependent entirely on US financial aid for their survival, and the US doesn't agree with their assertion any longer [not that the US ever did].

ps.....

May I suggest that you find the nearest Israeli embassy/consulate and volunteer to work for Mossad. They customarily use and then destroy all non-Israeli agents, so don't be surprised when the inevitable happens.

You crack me up. If you wasn't for you, I would probably have been off this site a long time ago since I'm bored of it, but your comments crack me up. It would be an honor if you would come with me to the nearest Israeli embassy/consulate and go First you want me banned and now you want the

However, "nobody cared who I was until I put on the mask"

[DTorrchia]

That's rich.....TAE telling anyone to move out of the USA for their views when many of the views he himself expresses here are anti-American, anti-government and anti-Israeli. Maybe you should take your own advice and move to one of the Arab states you so vehemently defend all the time. Let us know how THAT works out for you.

By the way, just got back in country. We'll still have to make that meeting happen sometime in the next week or two Mr. TAE.

[theaustinescorts]

Originally Posted by kingorpawn

First you want me banned

I never said I wanted you banned. I only wish D'Torrchia to be banned because he's a LE informant and not a hobbiest.

[theaustinescorts]

Originally Posted by DTorrchia

That's rich.....TAE telling anyone to move out of the USA for their views when many of the views he himself expresses here are anti-American, anti-government and anti-Israeli. Maybe you should take your own advice and move to one of the Arab states you so vehemently defend all the time. Let us know how THAT works out for you.

By the way, just got back in country. We'll still have to make that meeting happen sometime in the next week or two Mr. TAE.

D'Torrchia,

The Municipal Prosecutor's Office of Austin has shared with me the "Letter" you wrote to them about me.

The specific allegation you made about me isn't true, and they know that [although I told it to you in a PM so I could see what you would do with it].

They therefore are not treating it as a confidential informant matter, and have provided it to me.

As I've always said, you are a LE informant.

[kingorpawn]

Originally Posted by theaustinescorts

I never said I wanted you banned. I only wish D'Torrchia to be banned because he's a LE informant and not a hobbiest.

Why spoil all the fun if get rid of him, LE or not. Nobody pays a lot of attention to your postings except DT and me and maybe sometimes someone else. I find them interesting since I find the site boring and providers way over-priced.

[kingorpawn]

Originally Posted by DTorrchia

That's rich.....TAE telling anyone to move out of the USA for their views when many of the views he himself expresses here are anti-American, anti-government and anti-Israeli. Maybe you should take your own advice and move to one of the Arab states you so vehemently defend all the time. Let us know how THAT works out for you.

By the way, just got back in country. We'll still have to make that meeting happen sometime in the next week or two Mr. TAE.

It's funny, but I have a Palestinian friend who is always trashing the US and Israel and I once told him the same thing you are telling Mr. TAE.
I said to him, what are you still doing here?
If you truly believe in the Palestinian cause why don't you go over there and fight for it instead of living in a luxury apartment and driving a sports car in the US while your relatives are over there poor and fighting for a cause they believe in even its a lost cause.